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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 05:20 PM
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Religious Bigot Romney (MA Gov.) doesn't want Gay Marriage OR Civil Unions
Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney, who is a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Mormons), is considering a run for President in 2008. He does not favor gay marriage OR civil unions.

Just FYI, the Mormon Church did not admit black people into the priesthood until 1978. 1978!

In defense of the Mormons, they have accomplished progressive reforms in less than 200 years that required Catholic and Protestant Christians nearly 2,000 years to achieve. They even re-wrote some of their scriptures to accommodate their new position, while most Christians are still defending Bible passages like Numbers 31:17-18 and Deuteronomy 20:10-16, which have God committing atrocities, war crimes, crimes against humanity, and cruelty to animals as the "inspired, absolute, infallible Word of God".

But still, denying black people full participation in the Church until the late 1970s is not indicative of a good civil rights/diversity-tolerant organization. And Romney's NEITHER/NOR position on the gay marriage/civil union question is squarely within that tradition.

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Romney plays 'Hardball' on gay marriage, 2008
Mass. governor discusses civil unions and presidential front-runners

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9086489/

excerpt:

A year and-a-half ago, the Massachusetts Supreme Court legalized gay marriage in the state, igniting a national debate on the definition of marriage in America. On Thursday, legislators in Massachusetts voted to hold a constitutional convention next month to consider civil unions. But is it just about changing the name?

Republican Mitt Romney, the governor of Massachusetts, joined Chris Matthews on Thursday to discuss the issue and his prospective candidacy for the 2008 Republican nomination...

CHRIS MATTHEWS: Do you think there's any difference, really, between a gay marriage and something called a civil union?

GOV. MITT ROMNEY, MASSACHUSETTS: Well, I would rather have neither, to tell you the truth. I'd rather that domestic partner benefits, such as hospital - hospital visitation rights for same-sex couples. I don't want civil unions or gay marriage. But there is a difference, even when just the word is the difference. And the difference is that, if you indicate as a society that you're indifferent between a same-sex couple marrying and a heterosexual couple marrying, then it means our schools and other institutions are going to have to indicate that there is no difference whatsoever, and that obviously has societal consequences that are important.

full article at above link



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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 05:21 PM
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1. So Romney disagrees with George Bush who said a week before election that
he thinks civil unions may be the way to go?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 05:22 PM
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2. Fuck him!!!
All gay marriage has done for Massachusetts is HELP THE ECONOMY and allow people to live their lives with a normal dose of dignity and respect. Shit, what a dickhead that hairsprayed asshole is!!!
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whalerider55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 05:26 PM
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5. i was at the statehouse...
about a year ago, and rimeny cricket came in to speak to the group of us...

the person sitting next to me leaned over and whispered "i'd like to meet his tailor."

talk about empty suit.

whalerider
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 05:58 PM
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6. Is it just me
or does he have "televangelist hair"?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 10:31 PM
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8. T'aint you!!!
But here is the thing, he has BAD televangelist hair!!!

Had he been broadcasting in his youth, when his locks were more thick and virile, he might be excused...but he came on our teevees with BAD televangelist hair, and thus, he is second-rate!!!!

If we talk about his record as guv, of course, he is tenth-rate in a field of nine!!!
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BlueJac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 05:24 PM
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3. Why hate people, they are not bothering you?
:think:
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 10:32 PM
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9. Mitt is STUPID, that is why he hates nt
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flamin lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 05:24 PM
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4. I don't know where they get this no civil unions bull shit.
EVERY marriage is a civil union. You meet with the priest/preacher and get blessed in the church, but nothing happens at the governmental level until the paperwork is filled out and filed.

You can have one without the other, but only the civil union passes rights onto the participants and those rights are civil, not religious, rights.

The act of marriage only streamlines the process with those rights associated with a voluntary long term cohabitation.
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 06:13 PM
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7. Well then he shouldn't get gay-married.
But quit bitching about those that do, jackass.
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