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Road Scholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 09:10 PM
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If we take the senate, Could Bush be impeached?
It looks like the repubs could lose the senate, and I was just wondering the possibilities.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 09:12 PM
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1. The House impeaches.
The Senate then holds a trial.

So to accomplish anything, the Dems would need to take both houses. And acquire a collective spine.
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Road Scholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 09:15 PM
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7. Well, he's pissin' off the repubs by the dozen,
Who knows, it's something to hope for.
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:10 PM
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11. what % majority of each house
is needed to impeach & convict, respectively?
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Geoff R. Casavant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:32 PM
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14. Percentages
50% House to impeach, 67% Senate to convict.
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leyton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 09:12 PM
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2. The House does impeaching.
The Senate can do nothing unless the House votes to charge the President of a crime.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 09:12 PM
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3. You had better believe it... then I could die in peace. nt.
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jackbourassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 09:58 PM
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24. Believe it....
...I believe it will happen.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 09:12 PM
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4. the proceedings start with articles of impeachment
Edited on Tue Aug-30-05 09:29 PM by realpolitik
coming from the house...

I sincerely doubt the house of DeLay will let that happen, as long as he gets cover from the WH.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 09:12 PM
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5. Articles of Impeachment come from the House
:-(
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 09:14 PM
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6. If an impeachment were compared to a criminal trial....
The House of Representatives issues an indictment. The Senate then holds the trial to consider the evidence on which the indictment rests.

To impeach Bush, we would have to first take the House to draw up a bill of impeachment.
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 11:27 PM
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16. Could the state of Louisiana sue the federal government for
cutting the funds for the levees to the bone?
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 09:18 PM
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8. It has never happened, impeached by his own party, but we never
Edited on Tue Aug-30-05 09:22 PM by Usrename
have had anyone quite like * before either. Taking back the house and senate would make the possibility much more likely.

<edit> If only we could catch him getting oral - he'd be out for sure.
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DIKB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 09:25 PM
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9. Their hypocrisy would never
allow them to be NEARLY as harsh on a failure repuke pResident as they are on a successful dem President.
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SunDrop23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 09:42 PM
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10. He's a lame duck, if we take it in 2006 we need
to start addressing more important issues and pave a road for 2008.
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howmad1 Donating Member (959 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 11:50 PM
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19. Baloney!
Edited on Tue Aug-30-05 11:53 PM by howmad1
There is nothing more important than impeaching the whole friggin cabal! It will take at least 8 years to straighten out the horrific mess the rethuglicans have gotten this country in to. If the cabal is impeached, the democrats will have the support of the entire country if not the entire world behind them in rebuilding America. If they don't impeach the bastards and let them get away with their bullshit, the country and world will look upon the dems as "same old, same old" and they will again lose in 2008. Let me repeat, job one is impeachment!
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:10 PM
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12. If we retake the Senate and House
because they sink with Bush. They can impeach Cheney and Bush - Nancy Peolsi (now Speaker) becomes the first woman President and (especially if election fraud was confirmed), she can pick Kerry (who she seems to admire) as VP. After Kerry is confirmed, she could resign and run in the special election for her seat. Kerry could then nominate Edwards for VP. Then the country could try to get back to where it should have been.

That said - I doubt we get both houses or Bush gets impeached - though he thoroughly deserves it.
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ISUGRADIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 11:08 PM
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15. even if we take both houses Dems will be no where near
67 in the Senate. And te Repubs would never convict Bush and Cheney making Pelosi President. The best case scenario would be a Nixon like situation where Cheney resigned and an acceptable Repub became VP then President.
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 11:09 PM
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30. Is there an acceptable Republican?
Who could they get? Cheney's in on it, Hastert is under suspicion for treason with Turkey, Frist is a fuckin bastard who has led the Senate to some of the lowest poll numbers in history, Delay is a Rush Limbaugh wannabe with a criminal investigation hanging over his head. Seriously, who can they get? They've stacked the deck for the take-over and filled all the positions of power with criminals. Who could they get?
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MadeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:12 PM
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13. Yes but they must be introduced in the house.....
Congress starts the whole proceedings and begins all arrangements.
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Humor_In_Cuneiform Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 11:38 PM
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17. It all begins in the House Judiciary committee,
not that any of us have given any thought to this.

;)
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 11:48 PM
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18. I think if we win just enough seats in the house as well as take the
Senate I think we'll have a chance. I don't think we'll necessarily need the majority in the House, but we'll need to gain a lot in 06 for it to happen, that's for sure. The Senate really looks like we'll have it so far, but the house is a different story. I am keeping my fingers crossed.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 11:58 PM
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20. Believe it or not Pat Buchanan called for
his impeachment today in his column, for not protecting our country from foreign invaders.
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safi0 Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 12:36 AM
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21. As far as the
Senate goes, I don't think we have a chance. I think we can take back the Senate but I think that the only Republican who may have voted with us on impeachment will be gone if we take back the Senate.
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 10:50 PM
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27. Really?
That's cool. I didn't know about that. I knew Pat had turned against the Iraq war. I had know idea he started calling for impeachment.

:)
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 02:56 AM
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22. No
Edited on Wed Aug-31-05 02:57 AM by paineinthearse
1. The House votes to authorize an investigation by the Judiciary Committee.

2. The HJC may or may not vote articles of impeachment.

3. The full House votes on the articles, if passed, they go to the Senate.

4. The Senate tries the impeached, presided over by the chief justice of the SC. The case is managed by appointed Representatives.
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jackbourassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:28 AM
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23. If Dems win House who will be chairman of Judiciary?
Edited on Wed Aug-31-05 03:30 AM by jackbourassa
Who's the ranking Dem right now?

I think we should impeach Bush. I doubt that he'll get convicted in the Senate. But at least we will have it recorded in history how he lied to the American people about going to war.

There will definitely be a trial. The Senate can not compromise. They are jurors and have to listen to why the House brought on articles of impeachment.

P.S. Impeachment would also ensure that no Senator would get the nomination. Since they would be forced to sit and "hear" the case for months and months.

If we took control of the House. It would be summer or fall before a resolution would be voted on. Which means the trial wouldn't start until at least the Fall. Then we have a two to three month trial. No Senator could begin campaigning until at least December.

Since I think we need a governor to run. This might be a good thing all around.

Bye Bye Hillary.

We take out Bush, McCain and Hillary in one shot.
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 10:33 PM
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26. John Conyers is the ranking Dem right now.
He will be chairman of the Judiciary Committee in 2007.

:)
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 10:25 PM
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25. possibility: zero
There is no chance for the Dems to get to 67 percent in the Senate in 2006. And recapturing the House is a longshot. And so long as Chimpy's popularity hovers around the 40 percent mark, it would be political suicide to try and impeach him. Even if a growing majority of the country has finally figured out that Chimpy is an incompetent and even dangerous president, there are going to be a lot of folks who opposed the attempt to impeach Clinton who will not feel comfortable with an attempt to impeach Bush.
So, probably best to stow the impossible dream and continue to focus our efforts on the achievable: winning back the Senate and possibly the House and finding a candidate for President that can win back the White House in 08.

onenote
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 11:24 PM
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31. you are on the wrong thought
If it gets to the senate--- it maybe the repubs ahowe get it that far--- at that point the repubs may convict --- in the senate
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 11:55 PM
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33. I'm on the thought that says lets get Dems elected before
we start celebrating an impeachment. And at this point, I don't think the sentiment in the country has turned anti-Bush to the degree that would be necessary for Democrats to get elected on a "I'm going to impeach Bush" platform. I think voters are increasingly fed up with Bush and his policies, but they haven't reached the point where they want a new Congress to come in and spend its time in a divisive impeachment fight rather than trying to address their problems. Too many remember how the Repubs efforts to impeach CLinton prevented Congress from dealing with other issues.

onenote
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 10:51 PM
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28. We'd need to remove Cheney too.
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 11:00 PM
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29. I'd say we impeach Cheney first...
...then Bush. Cheney is the main bad guy and he's clearly the one running the show.
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 11:27 PM
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32. yes the wole cabal---
I think Pain in the hears has it right--- isnt there a resolution of inquiry in there-- part of number one on your list--- I think
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safi0 Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:10 AM
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34. As far as actual impeachment goes
We really don't have much of a chance. But I think if we take back the House, the next best thing could happen which is that Conyers would be Judiciary Chairman and Conyers would be able to bring up all the lies and bullshit Shrub has been doing the last 6 years.
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