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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 08:01 AM
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Why aren't good Christians speaking out against Robertson?
Tony Blair called on Muslim religious leaders to condemn the actions of Muslim extremist. The good Christian's of this Country should do the same of Pat Robertson and other Christian extremist that preach hate and killing and torture.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 08:04 AM
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1. Have you noticed that the only place you read about
The fanatic robertson is here on DU. MSM has done buried the story.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 08:06 AM
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2. There was a nice LTTE in last Sunday's
Dallas Morning News from a Baptist minister denouncing Robertson. Good Christians are speaking out, they just don't get national media coverage.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 08:10 AM
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3. I HAVE, but I've been doing it here.
:)

although I'd just classify myself as "christian".
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 08:12 AM
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4. They have ...
Many references and threads on the DU referring to them "eating their own" ...

As important is the fact that the MSM has given little or no play to the Christian (and other religions) strong condemnation and disgust with Robertson.

The Rev. Barry Lynn has come out strongly against this; Barry Lynn is a renowned minister and Attorney who works tirelessly for separation of church and state in the US.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/08/23/robertson.chavez/
Small mention of lynn's stance as he doesn't say outrageous and crazy things (= little coverage).

Larger Question is WHERE WAS CHIMPY"S condemnation? ... Robertson is a long time Chimp supporter (campaigned for and help raise large sums of $$$)

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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 08:13 AM
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5. The same reason why good Muslims won't speak out against Osama
Edited on Wed Aug-31-05 08:13 AM by HypnoToad
:shrug:
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LunaSea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 08:17 AM
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6. Been wondering myself...
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 08:35 AM
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7. Who knows?
"Love thy neighbor, and do unto others as you would have done unto you, but if he's a brown-skinned Socialist sitting on a ton of oil, smoke his ass"

I guess we are left to ask, "Who would Jesus assassinate for their Oil?"

TC
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leftylady Donating Member (281 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 08:35 AM
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8. Because a lot of them agree with him.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 08:44 AM
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10. On the contrary.What's to say? If you can't see through him,
Edited on Wed Aug-31-05 08:47 AM by KCabotDullesMarxIII
it doesn't mean you're not a Christian, still less, would it mean you are a Christian. It means that mentally you haven't reached the age of discretion or are, yourself, at best, an extreme sociopath.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 09:34 AM
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16. Yes, secretly they do
:toast:
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 08:42 AM
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9. Many are; the difference is that Falertson gets press just by opening
his/their piehole; committed followers of Jesus' teachings can't get 3 minutes on a local morning light news show.

In other words, those who really give a damn aren't publicity whores and the media couldn't care less about presenting both sides of ANY issue.
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 08:51 AM
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11. The lead editorial in National Catholic Reporter deals with it.
I think the writer hits all the right points, quite concisely and honestly. I'm tempted to print this out and send it to everyone I know, but that might be preaching to the converted.

Excerpts from the editorial:

"Pat Robertson’s call for assassination of Hugo Chávez, the duly elected leader of Venezuela, a sovereign nation, caused such widespread furor not because August is a slow news month, as the TV preacher sheepishly offered in the sobriety of the day after his comments. The uproar spread far and wide because the news media and culture at large have bestowed on him a credibility and respectability far out of proportion to his inane theology and worldview.

"Pat Robertson is a charlatan. He has made a career of slinging about the most absurd claims, posing as someone with not only uncanny knowledge of all things but also an unobstructed line to the Almighty. Robertson has all the answers to everything, as only a charlatan can.

"Hucksters have always been part of the American landscape, colorful characters we’ve tolerated, figuring if they can make a living off their pitch, more power to them. However, we’ve never given them credit for knowing or influencing much beyond the tawdry environs of their sideshows and snake-oil wagons.

"Robertson has received deference befitting a ringmaster when he’s actually a carny barker, someone who lures crowds with an elfin smile, a promise of prosperity and knowledge of the unknowable, all delivered with an aw-shucks shake of the head.

"His call for the assassination of an elected head of government represents a new level of irresponsibility, and it should be condemned from every quarter."



Link to the whole text:

http://ncronline.org/NCR_Online/archives2/2005c/090205/090205u.php
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 09:01 AM
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12. Jack Van Impe went off on Pat on his TV show this week
And right now, the National Association of Evangelicals informs us that this man has done damage, and it could actually take the lives of some of the missionaries in South America because the news media in South America is bombarding this thing across the airwaves around the clock. God forgive him.

Not only that, but Mr. Robertson, you are pro-life, and yet you wanted the members of the Supreme Court to die last year, and now the president of Venezuela. We believe this book: Thou shalt not kill; Exodus 20, verse 13. And my Bible says that this is wrong, and I want to challenge you right now to change your ways. Because we as Christians do not need an Osami Bin Laden leading us.


I can't say I always agree with Jack Van Impe, but he usually distances himself from the right wing extremist bullshit that Robertson, Fallwell, and others use to pollute the name of Jesus Christ.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 09:03 AM
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13. Not really fair: I read Cal Thomas in my hillbilly daily rag
Cal is about as demented as you get in a fundie asshole columnist, and he strongly disapproved of Pat.

I think Pat's permanently damaged goods, although his empire will do just fine.
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 09:19 AM
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14. James Wolcott referred to Cal Thomas as...
..."a goodly Christian and a badly writer." I love James Wolcott.

Anyway, it's most appropriate that Thomas and Van Impe and company chastise rotten Robertson. It's about time.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 09:31 AM
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15. Me heart Wolcott. he gud riter.
I used to bump into the guy back in CBGB's glory days, knew-him-to-say-"hi"-to, anyway.

Cool guy then, glad to see him as highly regarded as he is today.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 10:05 AM
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17. We're a rather retiring bunch
So this past weekend, when a lot of us at our Church of the Brethren District Conference were denouncing Robertson's lunatic pronouncement, we didn't see fit to rush in front of a national news camera.

If y'all will excuse me, I have to help out the Church of the Brethren folks who are headed to Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama to provide on-site child care services.

Does that about answer your question?
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 08:37 AM
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18. I apologize if i offended any Christians. My beef is with the MSM, not
good Christians. We hear a lot from Robertson and very little from opposing Christians.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 08:45 AM
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19. Maybe if more..
Edited on Thu Sep-01-05 08:47 AM by sendero
..."good Christians" got in front of a camera, it could rid its faith of the likes of Robertson and Falwell.

Just a thought.
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