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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 09:54 AM
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Katrina disaster: a BREAKDOWN of LEADERSHIP on a massive scale
Edited on Wed Aug-31-05 10:29 AM by Julius Civitatus
As America is waking up to the truly apocalyptic devastation left by hurricane Katrina in Louisiana and Mississippi, lots of people are starting to question if things could have been handled better. It's starting to look that way.

It's not often that we see a major American city being almost completely obliterated. Almost 80% of New Orleans is flooded. Biloxi has been devastated. Still, thousands of people were left behind, not enough preparations were made, and now we have evidence that budget cuts to FEMA and infrastructure maintenance may have precipitated the catastrophe in New Orleans' flooding.

I just saw images of New Orleans on TV, a high-school completely devastated, and dozens of school buses scattered, submerged in the water. Why couldn't FEMA use these buses as resources to fleet people out of the city? Instead they hoarded those who were left to fend by themselves in the Superdome stadium. In addition to saving people ,all those buses would be now save and functioning. In the meantime, these poor people were left there without food or water, on their own. The richest country of the world couldn't even mobilize its own public resources (school buses, city buses, trains) to get its own citizens out of harm way. It's very sad and embarrassing.

Louisiana authorities are talking about how the budget cuts in infrastructure (thanks to Bush) allowed the levees to breakdown, flooding the entire city. This lack of preparedness and resources is what's expected in a third-world country, but not here.

The former major of New Orleans was just on CNN, very angrily calling on Bush to dispatch the army into the city. He complained that Bush only sent 3000 national guard operatives to the city, while rescue operations require 10 times that amount, and the city is being looted. The former major of New Orleans placed the responsibility of this mess directly at the feet of George W. Bush.

Which remind us, what has Bush done so far in this massive disaster? Well, he did cut some brush in his ranch while the hurricane was leveling a major US city. Then he said he would cut his vacation short, and dispatched a minor national guard operation that's insufficient for the massive task at hand.

Then he had cake with John McCain. Cake tastes good!



Then he played guitar with some country music dude!



Then he said he would finally have a meeting to review the Katrina disaster, but it won't take place until later today, at 4pm, probably after his nap time. That is a whole three days after the disaster.

Let it be said: despite the devastation that nature has inflicted in the area, this disaster has revealed a MASSIVE FAILURE OF LEADERSHIP, an embarrassing level of unpreparedness and lack of resources that SHOULDN'T HAVE HAD TO HAPPEN. It's sad and depressing to think that in the richest country in the world there's not a very well coordinated effort to face a massive disaster... and leadership is yet to be seen.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 09:57 AM
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1. he could play"..riding on the city of new orleans"...and sing about
they dying railroads, maybe live on TV.

Msongs
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LunaSea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 10:02 AM
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3. yep...
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 11:50 AM
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19. LOL
Thanks LunaSea.
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StaggerLee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 01:33 PM
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29. Brilliant!
n/t
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 01:40 PM
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30. Bush sending message to his have mores base - no prez in his
right mind would allow these sort of pics distributed after national crisis, Bush could care less about New Orleans -- but he needs your kids to protect the oil rigs in Iraq because otherwise the oil will fall into the hands of the terrorists.
Bush, traitor!


http://downingstreetmemo.com/


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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 10:02 AM
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2. Bu$h should've sent in Nat'l Guard & Army Corps of Engineers
Edited on Wed Aug-31-05 10:12 AM by CottonBear
BEFORE the hurricane hit. They should have sent regular army too. They should have reinforced ALL levees and provided extra pumps. They should have forced or paid the airlines to fly in empty planes and fly out passengers. The cruise ship should not have put off passengers in NO. They should have evacuated ALL of the hospitals by bus, ambulance, cargo plane or boat or whatever other way they could. They should have gone door to door and evacuated EVRYONE from their homes without the means or way to leave. The Nat'l Gaurd could have stayed in the Superdome then immediately deployed onto the streets of the city along w/ the engineers and other emergency workers.

The FEDERAL gov't should have done this all prior to landfall.
They did not and now people are dying/dead and NO is ruined

My husband's family survived the storm up in Lacombe, LA (across the lake.) They foolishly stayed in their homes but are somehow OK and by some miracle their homes did not flood. They have trees on the houses and other damage. They are very lucky.
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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 10:05 AM
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4. Well said
It's amazing how little coordination took place before the hurricane hit.
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LunaSea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 10:05 AM
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5. after reading this...
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 12:26 PM
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22. Another PDB ignored in August.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 10:11 AM
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38. DING DING DING! CottonBear, you're our grand prize winner!
Edited on Sun Sep-04-05 10:47 AM by rocknation
I doubt that shoring up the levees would have helped, but the evacuations of the SuperDome and Convention center proves that if the NG had at least been put on alert last weekend, everyone in that town who couldn't afford to evacuate could have been out by Sunday morning!

:mad:
rocknation
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 10:12 AM
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6. "Let ME eat cake!" roars George. You can't make up this shit.
Prediction - after the country realizes the massive failure of preparedness on the gulf coast for a major hurricane - George's approval rating is going to be flirting with the 30% level. How low can he go?
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go west young man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 10:16 AM
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7. From Bush what did you expect. This is par for the course.
They're trying to figure out how to do the photo op right now and use this politically. I'm sure we can expect him to stand on some rubble in a couple of days to remind everyone how patriotic we are!
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Paradise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 10:21 AM
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8. you are so right on!
the total and comprehensive lack of preparation, action, and prompt re-action
are inexcusable, blatantly negligent, and shameful! UNBELIEVABLE but true!
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 10:36 AM
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9. What did we expect from the guy who continued
listening to children read "My Pet Goat" when the country was under attack on 9/11? Didn't he finally show up days later in New York for an embarrassing photo op at the rubble? There's a pattern here.

The puppet is surrounded by handlers who clearly don't know how to deal with crises. So when one hits they are all helpless for a few days, floundering around trying to figure out what to do. In this case they screwed up bad, allowing the chimp to carry on as though nothing was amiss. If it weren't for the media whores who are covering his ass and sure as hell aren't going to be braodcasting the phony guitar photo op, he'd be in even deeper shit with the public.

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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 10:44 AM
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10. So while his country suffers....We have Shrub pulling a Nero,
AND a Marie Antoinette.....Goddamn, could it be ANY more obvious???
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GarySeven Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 10:58 AM
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11. Did Bush ORDER the failure to fill the levee breach?
The City of New Orleans has essentially been destroyed because of a massive failure to attack the levee breach in time. There was a plan in place, but - for an as-yet unexplained reason - the effort to fill the breach never began, as if someone ORDERED it not to occur.

The shutdown of New Orleans, with an inability of workers to get to refinery and shipping sites, will at the very least mean a collapse of this country's means to ship petrofuels across the country, affecting not only gasoline prices but also chemical reactants needed for manufactures. This could trigger a complete economic failure in many sectors, prompting the need for government intervention and control - possibly martial law in many areas of the country. WHILE IT IS STILL POSSIBLE we should anticipate and prepare for what could be the early stages of the end of democratic rule in this country.
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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 11:18 AM
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12. Please, Recommend Topic for Greatest Page
Edited on Wed Aug-31-05 11:19 AM by Julius Civitatus
Thanks
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nyhuskyfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 11:27 AM
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14. I just gave it the fifth vote!
I feel so important
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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 11:26 AM
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13. How many of these buses could have been used to evacuate people
out of the city before the hurricane?

The folks would be safe, and the buses would be operational.

Now it's all a mess:


Photo from WWLTV in New Orleans
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 11:33 AM
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15. "Bush only sent 3000 national guard operatives,
operations require 10 times that amount".

Sound like any place we know????

Colossal fucking failure*!
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Pooka Fey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 11:40 AM
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16. I hated Chimp before, but now John McCain can go to hell too. n/t
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hnsez Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 11:46 AM
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17. It is a disaster and there will be hell to pay: See this editorial:
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 11:49 AM
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18. pic..........
Edited on Wed Aug-31-05 12:01 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 11:54 AM
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20. So, this is the best they could do
makes me feel a lot better about how efficient they will be if an terrorist strike occurs. :sarcasm:

At least Jenna and Barbara will be able to tell their grandkids someday about how W and his cronies helped make America safer. He cut his vacation short but only after he ate cake and played with a guitar. :sarcasm:
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enough already Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 12:08 PM
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21. This has GOT to be our opportunity
Bush fucked up royally on this one. We have to do or say absolutely ANYTHING to use this disaster to get rid of the useless chimp. He can't get away with doing NOTHING to prevent this disaster and then gloss it over with a fly-by. This disaster sums up this entire fucked up administration's approach on war, the environment, tax policy, EVERYTHING. There is no doubt that Bush could have prevented this. We have to make sure that this is the end of this slimy administration.
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peaches2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 12:30 PM
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24. Oh No?
He can't get away with it? He WILL get away with it, like he has gotten away with everything. There is no way to get the press off their ass and working again. They only have time to chase Chimp around pool parties and drink his booze.
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AbbyR Donating Member (734 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 12:29 PM
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23. I MUST stop reading DU...
I am getting more and more angry by the second. The blasted idiot reads stories to second graders as planes fly into the World Trade Center, and that's after he ignored intelligence that could have stopped it.
And now the fool is playing a guitar and stuffing his face with cake while New Orleans and Mississippi drown.
He can ignore Cindy Sheehan, but Congress is called into special session for Terry Schiavo....

I think I'm going to go bury my head in the sand and pray for this all to be over. What is wrong with this country that he hasn't been not only impeached, but run out of town on a rail?


Abby the infuriated
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cbear70 Donating Member (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 12:34 PM
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25. I have to agree
ready to bury my head too. watching this unfold makes me sick...

and on a lighter note. welcome to du.
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LunaSea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 01:24 PM
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28. then you'll just love this-
http://kamala.cod.edu/offs/KLIX/0508281550.wwus74.html

490
WWUS74 KLIX 281550
NPWLIX

URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW ORLEANS LA
1011 AM CDT SUN AUG 28 2005

..DEVASTATING DAMAGE EXPECTED


HURRICANE KATRINA
A MOST POWERFUL HURRICANE WITH UNPRECEDENTED
STRENGTH...RIVALING THE INTENSITY OF HURRICANE CAMILLE OF 1969.

MOST OF THE AREA WILL BE UNINHABITABLE FOR WEEKS...PERHAPS LONGER. AT
LEAST ONE HALF OF WELL CONSTRUCTED HOMES WILL HAVE ROOF AND WALL
FAILURE. ALL GABLED ROOFS WILL FAIL...LEAVING THOSE HOMES SEVERELY
DAMAGED OR DESTROYED.

THE MAJORITY OF INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS WILL BECOME NON FUNCTIONAL.
PARTIAL TO COMPLETE WALL AND ROOF FAILURE IS EXPECTED. ALL WOOD
FRAMED LOW RISING APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL BE DESTROYED. CONCRETE
BLOCK LOW RISE APARTMENTS WILL SUSTAIN MAJOR DAMAGE...INCLUDING SOME
WALL AND ROOF FAILURE.

theres more.

What part of "Katrina determined to strike gulf coast" didn't they get?
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scarlett1 Donating Member (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 01:46 PM
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32. This was in the Washington Post yesterday 8-30
Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.) spoke about problem with not protecting the Louisiana wet lands and effect on New Orleans 2 months ago

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/29/AR2005082901875_pf.html

Shrinking La. Coastline Contributes To Flooding
By Juliet Eilperin Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, August 30, 2005; A07

Two months ago, Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.) told an audience of congressional staffers and scientific experts the federal government needs to spend billions of dollars over the next two decades to restore her state's wetlands. She warned that intentional rerouting of the Mississippi River over the past century, coupled with rising sea levels due to climate change, had eroded Louisiana's natural buffer against massive storms.

"This is not Disneyland. This is the real deal," Landrieu said, referring to New Orleans's vulnerability to hurricanes. "The French Quarter could be under 18 feet of water. It would be lost forever."

Although the extent of the damage that Hurricane Katrina inflicted on the city remains to be assessed, several experts and government officials said the storm highlights the importance of restoring Louisiana's coastline closer to its natural state. Lawmakers have pushed since the 1920s to create a straighter Mississippi River that provides easier passage for ships and better flood control, but federal officials now back a $14 billion plan to restore more meandering waterways, which in turn would deposit new silt on the state's shrinking coastal wetlands. ... snip...
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 12:35 PM
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26. well, the bushgang never liked NO anyway
nt
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 12:41 PM
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27. Bush is not a leader
He never was; he never will be. He was picked by the powers to be to be a puppet whose strings could be pulled. However, it seems that the puppetmasters were AWOL and not around to tell him what to do. One of the puppetmasters is Cheney. Notice how no one has seen him in weeks. He's supposed to be very, very ill. Charles Rangel said it last week. Because Cheney is apparently too ill to tell Bush what to do, nothing happens.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 01:45 PM
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31. Leadership??? Gary Coleman coulda done better...even Mongo
of Rockridge would be an improvement over First Dufus...
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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 01:57 PM
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33. Leadership
Hey, he's leading, you just follow with the chorus...

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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 02:51 PM
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34. Oh God - they are? They're actually talking about it on TV?
Edited on Wed Aug-31-05 02:57 PM by calimary
Please tell me you're not pulling our legs.

We NEED THIS. I haven't seen much, if ANY, reference to this absolute incompetence, failure of "leadership," and gross dereliction of duty, except for ONE mention on Monday's Olbermann show. Keith Olbermann is the only guy on cable whom I've seen actually bringing this up. It's gotta be shouted from EVERY rooftop EVERYWHERE!!!
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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:59 PM
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35. The former major of NO did on CNN, but the media whores tried to
excuse Bush and the FEMA, and ran a list of excuses in the face of the major's anger and frustration.

See, according to the US mainstream media, George W. Bush is our beloved and very popular war time president. He is their Dear Leader and can't let go of the gear they decided to switch after 9/11.

They'll spin this in favor of Bush. You can bet your money on that.
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esvhicl Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 04:46 PM
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36. Guitar chord
Looks like a G major chord but not in the right fret. He can't even fake paying the guitar!!!
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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 05:56 PM
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37. Kick -- n/t
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