opihimoimoi
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Wed Aug-31-05 12:35 PM
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Is it me or the plan to plug the Holes in the levees is ILL TIMED? |
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The Pics I saw on TV shows the water is RECEDING from the affected areas back into the Lake...
Seems to me it should be opened up to expidite the draining, then plug it after the situation stablizes...but then, what the hell do I know....?
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Wed Aug-31-05 12:37 PM
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1. a day late and a dollar short |
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the plan should have been to have the resources and personnel standing by to reinforce the goddam levees at the first sign of a breach. they should have been stabilized on monday
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opihimoimoi
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Wed Aug-31-05 12:39 PM
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2. Bush is a reactor not a proactor...hence the many probs.... |
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Wed Aug-31-05 01:50 PM
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do you really think that they could have reinforced the entire levee? Do you know how big that levee is?
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Wed Aug-31-05 01:57 PM
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13. did the entire levee collapse? no. |
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Edited on Wed Aug-31-05 02:15 PM by tk2kewl
I said reinforce the levee at the first sign of a breach.
If they had a plan ahead of time with a team standing by, the damage could have been contained
on edit: added comma
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Wed Aug-31-05 12:40 PM
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3. I'm not sure what you saw, but ... |
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... the storm surge was higher than the water is now, but the surge is a temporary thing. The high-water marks are probably at around 20 feet in most places, while the water itself now is from 2-10 feet. The New Orleans basin is still filling up, and it will be impossible to get enough sandbags and supplies to the few active levee construction crews in time to prevent it filling.
New Orleans is below sea level, and Lake Ponchartrain is above sea level. It's kind of like Holland in that way -- a very strange geography.
--p!
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Wed Aug-31-05 12:43 PM
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6. It appeared the water was flowing back to the Lake from the flooded areas |
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Confirmation is the report water levels are NOT rising.....
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Wed Aug-31-05 12:53 PM
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It's the best news I've heard all day. The Army Corps of Engineers have been bringing in the big sandbags, so I guess they've finally made some headway.
I'd also guess that they're checking out the rest of the levee system for damage. In a real way, the tide may have turned.
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Wed Aug-31-05 12:42 PM
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4. they had to wait till the water |
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equalized to start filling the hole because the force of the water would wash any thing they could put in it. it`s hard to do anything when the problem is surrounded by water and there is no way to stage material and workers to fill the gap.
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Wed Aug-31-05 12:45 PM
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7. Ifg we fill the gap now, we trap the water within the city..forcing |
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us to pump the watrer out.
If we breach the opening to a level expiditing drainage...we save on pumping costs and time...After all said and done, Then fill the gaps..
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Wed Aug-31-05 01:17 PM
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10. I heard it explained on NPR this morning. They have to plug the |
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this break in order to bring one of their main pumping stations back up. Seems like a serious design flaw but as Rummy says, "you go to war with the army you have". The engineer explained that they would probably intentionally breech the levee in some other locations in order to take advantage of gravity flow back into the lake.
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Wed Aug-31-05 01:40 PM
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11. Exactly ...let gravity do most of the job... |
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Wed Aug-31-05 12:43 PM
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5. does it have to do something with, "oh! I should've taken care of the |
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infrastructure before all of this happened?" no pain, no gain. no taxes. no infrastructure money. no infrastructure money, no maintenance of levees, no maintenance of levees....... o geeeeeeezzzzz NO is underwater!
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Wed Aug-31-05 12:46 PM
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8. Bush cut the funds for updating and repairing the levees.... |
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Wed Aug-31-05 02:28 PM
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14. You know primitive as they sound, but siphons could |
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be set up once the levee is back in place to supplement the pumps.
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