lancdem
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Sun Sep-04-05 10:14 PM
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Must read: SurveyUSA tracking poll shows Bush continuing freefall |
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Edited on Sun Sep-04-05 10:14 PM by lancdem
http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollTrack.aspx?g=2675ae86-5320-4923-bd03-adb3dfe54f6e&x=0,0Notice he stemmed the tide for one day with his photo-op visit but that's gone. That ABC poll people are bummed about was done when he visited, too, which is why it wasn't worse. It would be worse now, believe me. Saw this on http://www.dailykos.com
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Sun Sep-04-05 10:15 PM
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Sun Sep-04-05 10:17 PM
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Sun Sep-04-05 10:16 PM
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2. Yeah, but he has another photo-op on the schedule tomorrow. |
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And who knows what else is up their sleeves to halt the damage being done to them.
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Sun Sep-04-05 10:18 PM
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5. We'll see if the second visit does any good |
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Edited on Sun Sep-04-05 10:18 PM by lancdem
I doubt it.
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Sun Sep-04-05 10:28 PM
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8. What is up their sleeves is to stoke the racism fire |
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in order to get the 95% of America that can't afford to buy security and safety to believe that it isn't about money and power. Let us not divide along race lines right now. We are all poor in their eyes. racism is the reason that so many black people are poor, but economic inequity is the reason that so many Americans were ignored and forgotten in their hour of need.
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Sun Sep-04-05 10:40 PM
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9. I agree this is a boat the struggling workers are in |
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together. I think as financial desperation spreads across racial lines this will become more apparent. But Bush is a racist and that is just too much to ignore.
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Mon Sep-05-05 09:21 AM
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25. Off to BATON ROUGE!!! |
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Lord forbid he should actually visit the DEVASTATED city of New Orleans!!! Too scary!!!!
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Sun Sep-04-05 10:17 PM
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3. There is a chance then that Bush will not be able to repeat his policies |
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of destroying the ability of the government agencies to govern.
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Sun Sep-04-05 10:20 PM
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6. How can anyone approve?????? |
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He stayed on vacation until bleepin' Wednesday evening. As people died. What's worse than that?
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Sun Sep-04-05 10:25 PM
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7. scroll down and track the different responses depending on race, etc. |
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The Midwest region should really have republicans freaking out. In the midwestern states 62%of all respondents disapprove of his handling. This is the bible belt y'all. They no disaster because of tornados and they used to vote republican because they felt safer doing so. Now that they realize that neocons have no interest in delivering them from evil or rescuing live babies let alone zygotes and blastocysts, they will vote blue for a long time to come.
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Mon Sep-05-05 03:26 AM
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21. "...they will vote blue for a long time to come." --electricray |
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Sorry, electricray, but they are going to vote the way Diebold and ES&S say they voted.
All our votes are being counted by Bushite electronic voting machine companies, using SECRET, PROPRIETARY programming code--code so secret that not even our elected secretaries of state have the right to review it. Our elections have become completely non-transparent and unverifiable. And this insanity has been made possible by bipartisan corruption among election officials and others in the $4 billion boondoggle of electronic voting. It's going to be tough to change, but we MUST do it. WE MUST!
My suggestion: Throw Diebold and ES&S election theft machines into 'Boston Harbor' NOW (or the nearest Louisiana levee). That's what we need to do.
The truth is we have DON'T KNOW how any state really voted. And I'm not going to judge any state as "red" or "blue" until we have transparent elections.
We need...
Paper ballots hand-counted at the precinct level (--Canada does it in one day, although speed should not even be a consideration, just accuracy and verifiability)
or, at the least...
Paper ballot (not "paper trail") backup of all electronic voting, a 10% automatic recount, strict security, and NO SECRET, PROPRIETARY programming code! (...jeez!).
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Bush's "pod people" in Congress--and Dem shills for electronic voting--are not going to do anything but make more misery, if they meddle in election "reform" again. We have to reform the election system at the state/local level, where the power over election systems still resides, and where ordinary people still have potential influence. Let's get this done! Our democracy is hanging in the balance!
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Sun Sep-04-05 11:32 PM
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I hope his numbers stay in the toilet and he feel nothing but shame everytime he shows his face to the people of this country. Too much to ask, I know, but I can dream big.
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Sun Sep-04-05 11:40 PM
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11. I just hope Bush NO. travesy costs repug seats in 2006!!! |
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Sun Sep-04-05 11:57 PM
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12. calm down... that's a "how did he do on the hurricane" survey. |
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not a approval / disapproval poll
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Mon Sep-05-05 12:13 AM
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13. The Hurricane survivors who appear with him might |
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just deserve an academy award for their performance, ie not telling him what they really think of him.
I can't imagine. When he was in my town last year, I was imagining ending up at the same public place as him. I imagined being asked if I wanted to meet him.
I could only visualize saying no, because I knew I couldn't possibly be polite or civil.
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Mon Sep-05-05 12:26 AM
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14. The limits of polls-- esp one that could not contact a million survivors |
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I do think that polls, to a certain extent, do reflect trends in the thinking of people. But there are problems. In this one, first off, is that whole chunk of the population could not be contacted. If they called one person on the list that happened to be a number in NO, he may be still treading water without a working phone line.
But even beyond this is the limit of the question itself. Basically here is a yes/no question. One cannot see here the intensity of the No/Yes. We do not know this for sure, but it could be the many of the No, the Pres is not doing a good job, is not doing a good job, but they feel that very strongly. The people that believe he is may believe it very tentatively.
If one talks to co-workers, friends, family that are not political, and ask them there views on different issues, their answers are difficult to categorize oftentimes.
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Mon Sep-05-05 12:38 AM
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15. Did you use the "track points"? 48% of the Red South disapprove |
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to only 46% approve, 62% of the Midwest disapproves! He's losing his base!
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Mon Sep-05-05 12:47 AM
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notice his approval has GONE UP in the south over the last few days?
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Mon Sep-05-05 03:56 AM
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23. The South and Midwest represent only one aspect of his base... |
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there's also the wealthy class who only care about getting tax breaks. If the dollar begins to plunge due to Katrina and rising oil prices then he may begin to lose it all.
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Mon Sep-05-05 12:38 AM
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16. i watched his photo op at red cross hq |
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and it seemed to me that some of the workers there hung back when he came around to shake hands. or maybe that was just my wishful thinking.
ellen fl
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Mon Sep-05-05 12:50 AM
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18. 12% approval among black voters! |
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welcome to karma land george.
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Mon Sep-05-05 12:58 AM
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19. this is soooo appropriate n/t |
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Mon Sep-05-05 01:06 AM
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20. Black approval went down from 26 to 12 - Disapproval went up from 54 to 82 |
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Edited on Mon Sep-05-05 01:07 AM by jsamuel
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Mon Sep-05-05 09:23 AM
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26. Who were the 12 percent, I wonder? |
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Toadies, rich people, and idiots, I guess. Talk about voting against self-interest...that is astounding, frankly.
I'd believe a negative number, if such a thing were possible.
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Tue Sep-06-05 02:40 AM
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Sorry to be so obtuse, but...what?
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Mon Sep-05-05 03:51 AM
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22. These folks are interesting. |
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They have their own techniques and focus on the citizen interviewed.
I think this is a little high but the trend is great.
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Mon Sep-05-05 04:57 AM
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24. Wait until the issue of resettlement and rebuilding begins |
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I believe Bush will be dogged by this issue for a while.
When they have to resettle people and Americans become pissed about not wanting these blacks in their neighbourhoods, wait and see what Bush's numbers do.
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Tue Sep-06-05 01:57 AM
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We'll see. I think that's a problem. Jesse Jackson had a great idea. Relocate the people to the abandoned bases in Louisiana and give them jobs in the reconstruction. Lou Dobbs agreed with him immediately.
There are so many places where * will get nailed. I think having a head of FEMA who had 10 years previous experience as the head of an Arabian horse association, which f'ing fired him. Horses - natural disaster relief, sure that makes perfect sense.
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Mon Sep-05-05 11:49 AM
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27. Curious - I can't view the link... |
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Mon Sep-05-05 01:21 PM
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They're probably fixing that poll ~ must have missed it when they were taking care of the ABC poll! Check back later!
Speaking of fixing. I just heard Laura Flanders say that when he was in Biloxie and told one woman there to go to the Salvation Army food distribution down the road, there was confusion.
It seems that the confusion came from the fact that the food distribution center had not existed until AF1 arrived. And it disappeared when AF1 left. So the poor woman was unable to find it.
They are capable of ANY lie and we must never, ever believe a word they say until there is a trustworthy source to back it up.
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