Scarborough just pissed on NO pet rescue

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

"All over New Orleans, they're out trying to rescue PETS...PERSONALLY, I'm wondering why they aren't trying to rescue HUMAN BEINGS...they could use THAT, couldn't they?"

Hmmm...why don;t you ask BUSH why no one was out trying to rescue human beings, BITCH?

:grr:

[sniffa]

1. yeah, save the pets, screw the humans

:eyes:

[saracat]

Pets are just as important. They truly didn't have a choice.

In some cases as in Bush's, I would definately save Barny first! And where is it written you shouldn't save both? Are you sugestting the ASPCA should save the humans? What is FEMA for????

[expatriot]

21. Rescuer carries kid - kid holds onto 1 lb. dog. - problem solved

They are FORCING people to abandon their pets. small pets, etc. My wife came home bawling yesterday from work after hearing an NPR story in which the audio from a child being forced to drop his pet and the cries of this child for "Snowball! Snowball!" and how the child started throwing up. Or the story of the woman who was so desperate to be allowed to take her dog that she offered the Marines her wedding ring, her grandmother's wedding ring but they refused.

Or these storiesfrom the Human Society of the US.

Or the CNN footage that is on their site about how their are "many people" who are refusing to abandon their pets, including this one man they interview, he is floating in the water on a tire. and they leave him even they were on a boat and had plenty of room to hold the dog.

Where is our humanity?

Mahatma Gandhi said it best:
"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated."

[Lorien]

29. When people won't leave without their pets

because they are the only family they have, they damn well BETTER save the pets!!

[Bluebear]

34. You're damn right.

[TankLV]

61. You got that right!

I would never ever abandone my 3 golden boys and girl.

[Bluebear]

35. That's what you got out of that post?

[saracat]

2. Fuck you Scarborough. Pets are important to.o

[Teaser]

3. Not to me.

Not one manhour of a rescuers should be used to save pets, unless some are come across incidentally.

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

6. So people in the Humane Society shouldn't rescue pets?

:shrug:

[saracat]

9. What an inhumane attitude. Thank fully most do no think like this. Even

the Coast Guard are letting peopkle take their dogs off the roof with them. For most of us pets are "family" and I would no more sentence them to death than a child. They are true innocents.

[win_in_06]

46. Ironic that you use the word humane while referring to animals.

The priority has to go to people, not pets. When space and time is limited how can you justify saving Fido when a man or woman could die?

[LostinVA]

48. The definition of humane, since you don;'t seem to know it:

Main Entry: hu·mane
Pronunciation: hyü-'mAn, yü-
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English humain
1 : marked by compassion, sympathy, or consideration for humans or animals


There has been plenty of room in boats, choppers, etc.... the authorities just don't give a damn. However, I know at least one Coast Guard rescuer not only allowed, but took it upon himself to make sure pets were rescued, too. Pets are family members. To some of us, they are our kids. Sorry you can't find it within yourself to be humane and understand this.

[expatriot]

11. You could do both if more people had more compassion.

Remember Snowball!

[Lindacooks]

13. I sure hope you don't have any pets.

Doesn't sound like you appreciate them, at any rate.

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[T Town Jake]

55. Ah, such "progressive" sentiments...

..."I rather have my dog for company than some stupid useless man, which most men are!"

A little noun tweaking:

I rather have my dog for company than some stupid useless woman, which most women are!

And there ya are! This post now accepts flames!

:eyes:

[Lorien]

28. Well aren't you a freakin humanitarian.

:eyes:

[TankLV]

62. Disgusting is more like it.

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

30. Say something clever about this.

[LisaL]

36. You haven't got a clue either.

[LostinVA]

43. Then the rescuers should allow people to take their pets!

THey are FAMILY members, not some bloody sofa or piece of bric-brac. But a living, breathing FAMILY MEMBER.

[renie408]

53. Then I don't think YOU should rescue any pets.

But the people to whom animals are very important, THEY should rescue pets.

Do I think that the available National Gaurd should spend time rescuing pets? Probably not. But there are several animal rescue associations that are doing their thing and rightly so. Everybody has to take care of the things that THEY see. You see people. Good, people need help. Some others see pets. Good, pets need help.

[candy]

8. Some are refusing to leave without their pets-- neither would I.

[saracat]

10. I wouldn't either. They are my furbabies.

[LostinVA]

44. Me too -- they are our children

I love them, and would stay with them and die if I had to. People who can't understand this need to substitute "mother," "child," "husband," whatever for "fur baby." That's what these furry little critters are to us. And, if you think that's weird or sick, then to hell with you. You have a hole in your soul.

[expatriot]

14. My wife and I would not go either.

We have cried a lot from all the human and animal suffering. When humans are treated worse than animals should be treated, animals become nothing to people. :cry:

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

18. I wouldn't leave without my pet either...

...and I could give a flying fuck for anyone who disagrees with that.

Sometimes DU amazes me.

[saracat]

37. Me too! There are some people I would never want to know.

[hlthe2b]

20. Absolutely... how could one live out their life without grief...

knowing they'd left their beloved pet, who is totally dependent on them for their survival. Better to die along with them, in my opinion.

[Lecky]

40. I wouldn't either...

...in fact I tear up just thinking about it. My 2 dogs are like my babies, they depend on me.

[win_in_06]

47. Those that refuse to leave without their pets do so at their own

risk. If they are willing to die for their pet that is their choice.

[LostinVA]

49. You're just full of compassion and love for everything

Aren't you? Why are you going out of your way to be nasty and insulting to us about this? I'm not being contentious, just curious. I really want to know, because I can't understand this.

[win_in_06]

57. I'm just saying we have to prioritize. We even prioritize with people,

Sick, elderly and children before able-bodied adults, for example.

[Pharlo]

59. Well now, that sentiment is not employing your

cold calculating philosophy to maximum advantage.

Able bodied adults should be rescued first - they're more crucial to the cleanup/rebuilding efforts. Sick and elderly are going to die anyhow, just leave them, and as for the children - well, if they can make it too an evac. zone on their own impetus, well, then we can find a spot on the plane or helo for them. :sarcasm:

There are people who go into disaster areas SPECIFICALLY for animal rescue. And, unlike OFFICIAL human rescue efforts who leave animals to die, they don't leave drowning humans in front of them to die.

They will at least HELP a fellow sufferring creature.

But, their PRIMARY reason for being there is ANIMAL rescue. That's their specialty. That's what they do.

And while your at it, consider this: When was the last time you heard of a search and rescue dog refusing to go somewhere to help save the life of a human - even if it put their own life in peril?

[TankLV]

63. Some of us have enough love to go around for ALL.

If we love one, doesn't mean we can't love as many others as are out there.

"as you do to the least of you, you do for me"

I am glad I DON'T know you. I certainly wouldn't want to with an attitude like that!

[GRLMGC]

4. Uh

they're saving humans too. Scarborough is an asshole

[LittleClarkie]

60. Yeah, like if they find a pet and a human they're going to leave the human

and rescue the pet.

[napi21]

5. Well Joe, good people can do both!!!!

What an AH!

[DELUSIONAL]

17. BINGO!

[expatriot]

7. Compassion, many people in New Orleans have it, why don't you Scarborough?

Refusing to Leave Them Behind, Evacuees Smuggled Their Pets Out With Them

Black Bag Operation

Moret Williams and Sebastian left New Orleans together. Sebastian floated on an air mattress at his owner’s side as Moret Williams waded through polluted, neck-deep floodwater, pulling the mattress along with him. Man and beast managed to reach an elevated portion of Interstate 10, but the helicopters that were taking evacuees to buses weren’t allowing pets on board.

“There was no way I was leaving without him,” Moret Williams says, and so he did what so many have had to do in the past week: He improvised. He put Sebastian in a large black trash bag and begged him not to make noise.

Amazingly, the dog obeyed, though he did squirm at one point—a point that could have ruined the whole plan. “He bumped against the pilot,” Moret Williams says, a small smile creeping onto his face. “The pilot just goes, ‘I didn’t see nothing.’ ”

The pet owner’s black bag operation was secret enough to get the pair a one-way ticket to Houston on a bus that also didn’t accept animals. Sebastian made the whole trip with his nose sticking out the top of the bag. And when they arrived at the Astrodome on Friday, the staff of the Houston SPCA were waiting, ready to offer shelter to Sebastian while Moret Williams became one more evacuee looking to scratch out a new life. Today, he has plans to stay with his sister—and thanks to the SPCA, he has his baby back.

[LisaL]

31. That's a smart guy.

We used to put a little baby coat on our dog to sneak her in a subway.

[rox63]

12. The Humane Society and SPCA are rescuing pets

That's what they do, and I support them for doing it. I'd be frantic if I had to leave my two cats behind. There are lots of other folks rescuing the people.

[brentspeak]

15. Rescuing pets at this point is also a public health issue

In addition to the human bodies, thousands of rotting animal carcasses lying around the city creates limitless possibilities for disease.

[expatriot]

19. It is also a mental/emotional health issue

I know that many people are being driven insane with the lack of compassion being displayed by our leaders in Washington and the racist minority in this country.

[hlthe2b]

16. I'd save a fuckin pet alligator before I'd save some of these RW

assholes....Damn them all to hell.

[shireen]

22. oh! You're captured my sentiments so eloquently!!! And wild allys too! n/t

[Lecky]

41. lol that was funny n/t

[ElsewheresDaughter]

56. yeah how about rescueing dead interns out of your congressional office joe

[TankLV]

64. If he didn't kill her in the first place.

[tabasco]

23. What about his cousins?

The pigs??

[Justice]

24. Last thing we want are hungry dogs roaming streets when flood

waters recede. It is good they are saving pets, but also safer for humans that they are doing so!

[iamjoy]

25. I Hugged My Kitties

when I first read about pets being abandoned, much to their chagrin.

[saracat]

32. Giggle. I did that too. Several time. My cats are not too thrilled either

but they tolerate it. I remind them how lucky we are!

[LostinVA]

45. Me too! I cuddled with them on the floor and kissed their

Furry little bellies and toes... they were like, "Mommers! WTF? Stop! I'm trying to watch the deer outside!"

[Contrary1]

26. My neighbor asked why I feel compelled to take in the stray cats and dogs

and feed and take care of them. My answer...I like animals better than I like some people.

This whole thing is so sad. For many, all they have left is their pet. I believe that taking them away will actually cause more people to die. If the pets couldn't go to Texas, they should have allowed some of the volunteers to take them. At least there would have been
a chance, however remote; for them to be reunited eventually.

If ASPCA, the Humane Society, or any animal activist group wants to go in and rescue whatever creatures they can, I'm all for it.

[LisaL]

33. He hasn't got a clue. Or a heart. People refuse to leave

because they can't take pets.
How hard it is to understand that pets are family too?
It's an outrage that people are forced to leave their pets behind.

[zulchzulu]

38. Rescuing interns from being murdered in campaign offices would be cool too

Hey Joe...what did you do with that dead intern of the floor.

[Lecky]

39. I'm glad there are organizations out there rescuing pets

I know I would be going out of my mind with worry about any pets I had to leave behind...I don't think I could leave them behind, but I can understand why some families had little choice...

My local animal hospital packed 2 huge Uhaul trucks of donated cat and dog food for all the displaced pets in New Orleans...the poor things.

[baron j]

42. We wouldn't have human civilization without our pets and livestock.

Scarborough is heartless, and is pandering to his fake "tough guy" audience.

Pets have performed so many useful functions: as pack animals, animals used to pull plows and carts, dogs to assist in the hunt, cats to kill rodents that threaten grain stores and spread pestilence, etc. Also, they comfort a lonely heart. And there have been countless documented cases of pets and animals aiding in the rescue of a human. We owe them much.

Animal rescuers doing what they do doesn't detract from human rescue.

[Bridget Burke]

51. They'll need plenty of cats to go after the rats....

The animal rescue groups aren't taking resources from the human rescue groups.

The Houston SPCA is taking in animals from the affected area. Some (already homeless) may be adopted. Others will get free room & board until they can be reunited with their owners.

www.spcahouston.org/SPCAHouston/Katrina_News.asp?SnID=229097059

Of course, those are the animals who got out of the area in the first place. (Some early evacuees checked into hotels with their pets; now, as the money runs out, they are going into shelters.)

The NOLA SPCA also evacuated all their charges to Houston before the storm. These were already homeless.

[NAO]

50. My Dogs are Maltese. They are pure white, and known as an aristocratic

breed of dogs.

Do you suppose the Racist Republicans of the Rabid Religious Reich and their Radical Clerics would believe that my white, aristocratic dogs deserve to be rescued, while other dogs, such as mixed breeds or Black Labradors, Chihuahuas (read: Latinos), or especially French Poodles do not deserve to be rescued?

[Wabbajack]

52. I don't get the big deal

what's their problem with allowing pets on helos and buses? It's not like they take up a seat.

[queenjane]

54. I decided long ago,

in the event I had to make this choice, I would stay with my cats. I'd put my elderly mother in the boat with her meds, and my will and life insurance papers so she could collect later (if necessary), and remain behind with the babies I'd rescued. I would rather be dead than live with the horror of abandoning them to die alone.

If someone thinks I'm crazy, that's their problem.

[FreedomAngel82]

58. Really

I guess he's never owned a dog or cat eh? Or his kids?

[laugle]

65. I'm sooo glad you posted this, just tonight

my husband and I were talking about why don't people realize that pets are part of the family? They are just as loved as a humans except in a different way.

Did you see that poor elderly woman who would not evacuate, because she couldn't leave her dog? I heard today they finally let someone take their dog. I was hoping it was her.

Seeing all those dogs tonight running through that polluted water made me sick!

We need foster homes for pets!!!

[Kenroy]

66. This is not just about saving animals for the sake

of saving animals.

It's the greatest thing we can do for their owners. I know if I were forced (and I would have to be forced at gunpoint) to leave my pets, I would heartsick and forlorn until I knew what became of them. If an organization were able to rescue them and reunite me with them, it would literally keep me alive.

Some people just love pets and some people don't. But those of us who do understand how important it is to try to save them. They are innocents who rely on us, and it's an obligation we take on when we bring them home. Most of us take that obligation seriously.