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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 08:28 AM
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U.S. Threatens China
Edited on Wed Sep-07-05 08:37 AM by welshTerrier2
Now bush et al are threatening China ... it seems those pesky Chinese have been competing with the US for the rapidly dwindling worldwide supplies of oil ... what's next, a "China War Resolution" ??? ... imagine that ... China competing for oil ... who the hell do they think they are ???

aside from the fact that US arrogance defies description, the real lesson we need to understand from the article below is that without a real energy policy (and maybe even with one), we are likely to be faced with devastating military confrontations as "peak oil" gets closer and closer ... and the most unimaginable confrontation would be an all out war with China ...

Democrats should use the current gas price spikes to warn Americans that the our failed energy policies are leading us to a very dangerous future ... the price spike will be temporary, for now ... failing to educate a public that is "briefly awakened" to energy issues would be a major failure of leadership by the Democrats and a lost political opportunity as well ... it's also important for Democrats to point out that our current energy policies are being written by and written for the sole benefit of Big Oil ... the last thing Big Oil wants to do is change the country's energy policy ... why would they walk away from the record profits they've been earning?

and one last point, the article below indicated that the bush administration encouraged China to "improve energy efficiency" ... the U.S., with 5% of the world's population, uses 25% of the world's annual energy consumption ... the land of the SUV is warning other countries about energy efficiency ... the home of "we don't need no stinking mass transit" is lecturing the rest of the world? the arrogance boggles the mind ...


source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050907/pl_nm/china_usa_dc

China will be increasingly in conflict with the United States if it continues to pursue energy deals with countries like Iran and is unlikely to gain the energy security it seeks, a senior U.S. official said on Tuesday. <skip>

Zoellick launched the strategic dialogue on a trip to Beijing last month amid rising U.S. concern over China's growing economic and military clout. Washington aims to foster greater cooperation and avoid dangerous miscalculation by examining Sino-American relations in a larger framework. <skip>

China became the world's third largest importer of oil in 2003. It sought energy and mineral deals with Iran, whom the United States and Europe accuse of pursuing nuclear weapons, with Sudan, accused of genocide in the Darfur region, and Venezuela, where the president has allied with Cuba, a U.S. adversary.

Zoellick said he told Chinese officials that from a U.S. perspective "it looked like Chinese companies had been unleashed to try to lock up energy resources." <skip>

He said Beijing's ties to what the United States considered troublesome states -- the list also included Burma and Zimbabwe -- were "going to have repercussions elsewhere" and the Chinese would have to decide if they wanted to pay the price.

The State Department's former chief China official, Randall Schriver, told Reuters last week he feared the two powers were on a "collision course" over the ties Beijing is forging in its search for energy to feed its growing economy.

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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 08:33 AM
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1. bring'em on...
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 08:34 AM
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2. I wouldn't do that if I were you . . . .
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Sperk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 08:36 AM
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3. wanna bring china down? Stop shopping at WALMART.
n/t
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whatever4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 08:45 AM
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6. Have tried too stop shopping there
I really have. I used to go there regularly, spend a few hundred dollars on kids clothes, all our stuff. But not anymore. I'm so ashamed of my nation, and so many of the wealthy corps we made. Made in the USA? Anymore all that means is that you can't trust it. American business practices overseas, I hang my head. Nothing but liars and cheats, so inhumane it makes my head spin. What I used to call home, now I think of as an invaded country.

Us all here, we're the friggin refugees.
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:02 AM
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7. check this out ..
slavery advocates like Jack Abramoff and Tom Delay are beyond despicable ... the article below explains how they setup a company that brought in workers from Asia and exploited the hell out of them ... these people have no moral compass whatsoever ... all they care about is money and power ...

check out this article: http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/05/09/real.delay/


Moved by the sworn testimony of U.S. officials and human-rights advocates that the 91 percent of the workforce who were immigrants -- from China, the Philippines, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh -- were being paid barely half the U.S. minimum hourly wage and were forced to live behind barbed wire in squalid shacks minus plumbing, work 12 hours a day, often seven days a week, without any of the legal protections U.S. workers are guaranteed, Murkowski wrote a bill to extend the protection of U.S. labor and minimum-wage laws to the workers in the U.S. territory of the Northern Marianas.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 08:40 AM
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4. Who didn't see it coming? WHO didn't see it coming?
Edited on Wed Sep-07-05 09:04 AM by The Backlash Cometh
Right-wingers refuse to consider conservation as an option. They think that it's a sign of weakness. They would rather wage war against the world.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 08:44 AM
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5. Except, of course, they want somebody else to do the actual fighting.

Great handle. And it cometh now.
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Mr Rabble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:06 AM
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8. Zoellick= PNAC'er. 'nuff said.
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