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DemsUnited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:20 AM
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New CNN/Gallup Poll (sorry if dupe)
Edited on Wed Sep-07-05 09:20 AM by DemsUnited
Public Skeptical New Orleans Will Recover
Criticism, but little outrage, for Bush's and federal agencies' response to hurricane


by David W. Moore


GALLUP NEWS SERVICE

PRINCETON, NJ -- A new CNN/USA Today/Gallup survey finds the public skeptical that New Orleans will ever completely recover from Hurricane Katrina, but also supportive of making the effort to rebuild the city. Even those who predict full recovery expect the process to take many years.

The poll also finds the public largely divided in its evaluation of the response by President George W. Bush and the federal government, though more people are critical than supportive of their efforts. The public is also highly critical of gas companies for the rise in prices, saying the industry is taking advantage of the situation to charge unfair prices.

The poll, conducted Sept. 5-6, finds almost all Americans, 93%, agreeing that Hurricane Katrina is the worst natural disaster in their lifetimes.

<snip>

Despite widespread criticism of the response by Bush and, separately, the federal government, to the problems caused by the hurricane, the public seems on balance only mildly critical. Forty-two percent say Bush did a "bad" (18%) or "terrible" (24%) job, but 35% rate his response as either "great" (10%) or "good" (25%).

<snip>

When asked to identify who was most responsible for the problems in New Orleans after the hurricane, 38% of Americans said no one was really to blame, while 13% cited Bush, 18% the federal agencies, and 25% state and local officials.

<snip>

Few Americans feel that any top official in the agencies responsible for handling emergencies should be dismissed from office -- just 29% say someone should be fired, while 63% disagree.

Specific numbers @ http://www.gallup.com/poll/content/?ci=18412



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Cary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:22 AM
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1. It will be interesting to see the numbers after the smoke clears
and all the facts are put on the table.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:27 AM
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2. Very true. Also after a final count of the number dead!
The other thing I'd like to see is the actual questions asked in this poll. Most of the time, answers are skewed by the way the questions are asked.

I didn't take this one, but in the past, I had difficulty answering some questions because the answer I wanted to give just wasn't there!
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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:33 AM
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3. The question is: will ALL Americans actually SEE the FACTS on the "Table"?
n/t
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 10:42 AM
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25. Americans need to see the dead bodies in NO. Bodies that
are being hidden from sight, because it would remind Americans of another rotten job junior has done.

The world knows now that the poor black is not loved as the rich white in this land of freedom that God Blesses.

It is time to throw junior out of his play pen and have Barbara hold him close to her bosom.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:54 AM
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6. since when have the "facts been put on the table"
when? Not during Reagan, not during Bush I, lies about Clinton and nothing in the past five years
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:37 AM
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4. They didn't report the political affiliation of the respondents
so it's hard to know how representative that sample is.
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 10:08 AM
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13. They do have some "partied" responses
The ratings for Bush are highly related to party affiliation.

* By a margin of 69% to 10%, Republicans give Bush a positive rather than negative rating for his response.

* Democrats give almost a mirror opposite -- 66% negative to 10% positive.

* Independents side with the Democrats, giving a more modest margin -- 47% negative to 29% positive.

But no breakdowns that I can find for the overall sample.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 12:47 PM
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28. yes, that makes you wonder...
since they obviously asked an affiliation question, then why didn't they report the sample statistics so we would know whether, for example, they over-sampled Republicans (as they have been shown to do in past polls)?
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:44 AM
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5. Not enough blame for the vacationing asshole(S)
Chimp and Cheney.

All Chimp had to do was get his ass back from Crawford, call a meeting with FEMA director and make sure forces were mobilized and help was on the way. Who the fuck else is in charge?
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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:56 AM
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7. Pretty much what I expected. The sheeple still love Bush.
When you can't get a simple majority to agree with the obvious--that Bush screwed up in a big way--you know the sheeple are still comatose. I don't care if the poll was all Repugs, a majority of them know this was FUBAR and Bush is supposed to be in charge.

Our country is on the road to ruin.
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 10:15 AM
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15. They are apparently waiting with the overall approval numbers
They often these days play this suspenseful game. Given these numbers, it may have gone down some but not a lot. The next AP poll should be interesting. They are usually 5 points lower than Gallup or ABC/WP on the average and by the tenor of their articles these days one can tell they already know something which is not good for Bush in it -- but we of course won't know for sure until it comes out. Pew, Harris, and CBS/NYT tend to be quite a bit lower (and more accurate) as well.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 10:16 AM
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16. The question was poorly framed.
The American people don't assign "blame" like this. You need to ask gentler questions (about approval and disapproval).
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 10:24 AM
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20. Several articles before Katrina mentioned that the
WH's "internal" polls are even lower than the ones appearing in the press, probably in the 30s. The good (and sometimes bad :) thing with polls is that every new one blocks out the previous one -- so if there are a couple of worse ones after Gallup and ABC, these would be fast eclipsed.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 10:27 AM
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21. See my post on SUSA poll
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 10:00 AM
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8. And this is with the press outraged -- what's wrong with people?
:banghead:
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 10:06 AM
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10. Racism, basically -- that's "what's wrong with people"
These initial polls reflect it. Would have been VERY different if thousands of people who died had been mostly white. Sad but apparently true.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 10:07 AM
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11. Sadly, you could well be right. nt
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Tomee450 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 11:31 AM
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27. Exactly
Those people were the "others." There was an article by Tim Wise around here several days ago. He recounted the coversation he overheard at a restaurant which reflected nothing but deep racism. This country has a terrible race problem.
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Tomee450 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 11:26 AM
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26. I'll tell you what it is
but some here won't want to believe it. Some Americans just don't get it. The people involved in this tragedy are mostly black and poor. I knew that there would not be the outrage one would expect in a situation that has involved the loss of lives of thousands as a result of gross incompetence by the government. But when it's people of color, everything changes. That is a fact that people do not want to admit.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 10:05 AM
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9. I feel like giving up hope for this country.
If this attitude of not blaming Bush continues...I can't even finish the sentence because I'm too disgusted.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 10:17 AM
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17. Why? These are terrible numbers.
In a crisis, the people are supposed to rally around the President. It clearly hasn't happened.

Additionally, the American people will never "blame" an elected official for anything. Ever. Gallup should have known not to frame it that way.

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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 10:28 AM
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22. Part of it was watching Newport on CNN where he was stressing
there was "little outrage," echoing the line from their article. It will all be in the USA Today tomorrow, with the overall approval as well. They often spin it differently (and actually more critically) than Gallup.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 10:30 AM
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23. Y'think?
Will USA today spin it thus?
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 10:31 AM
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24. all depends on what his overall approval is
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 10:07 AM
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12. what you need is for bush to cancel american idol. then there would
be hell to pay.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 10:15 AM
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14. These are Bad numbers for Bush.
Edited on Wed Sep-07-05 10:18 AM by Teaser
These are bad for a gallup poll. No rally effect at all.

And check out SUSA's terrible numbers for *.
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DemsUnited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 10:18 AM
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18. OH, I LIKE THIS POLL BETTER!!! Please post separately if you
haven't already!
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 10:19 AM
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19. Have already.
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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 01:37 PM
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29. Yeah, that's quite a spin, really:
Edited on Wed Sep-07-05 01:39 PM by belle
It boils down to, 42% disapprove versus 35% approve. Oh, and as many people think he did a "terrible" job as a "good" (not "great") job. And they call that "mild?"

It's a major, major disaster, and by all rights it should be a gimme for presidential ratings boost. All in the fuck he had to do was set the machinery that should have been in place in motion, and, sadly, even more so, SAY SOMETHING PRESIDENTIAL, ON TIME. He didn't.

Those are some bad fucking numbers.
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