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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 12:30 PM
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Is Miers just a decoy?
I've been wondering about this since this morning. Is Bush (or his handlers) putting her name in because he knows she isn't qualified and her background working for him will get her rejected? Could it mean that he really has someone else in mind who he'll nominate after Miers is rejected with the idea that the Senate could not reject two nominess in a row?
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 12:32 PM
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1. I've been thinking that she is......
(posted to other threads, so it takes awhile to get to that thought).

They should go after Bush on this--if you like Brownie, then you'll
like Miers. She has no relevant judicial experience, so we have no idea about her "judicial temperament" which is always of supposedly paramount importance. But more importantly, she's another Bush crony that knows how to keep his secrets. Bush is not choosing people who will serve the country, he is choosing people who have served him and who is now rewarding with jobs that these people have no comittment to on a lifelong, career basis.

This is just so bogus, it reeks. I say go after Bush and his incompetence. If Plame indictments come down, you'll have even more ammunition as to the type of people he chooses and their missions in life--being a friend of Buscho, not of the American people.

The cynic in me is saying, however, that Bush knows she may not go through OR is even planning on it....A few Republicans go against here to present a veneer of "sensible conservatism." Then, he goes and appoints someone really creepy whom they will all unite to get through....you never know when Gonzales will crop up, pictures of child rape or no pictures of child rape in Iraq.....

Of course, that's only if our beloved Democrat leadership decides to grow a pair and actually decides to fight this CRAP!!!!! At this point, they have a golden opportunity to go after BUSH and the way he chooses people....
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 12:48 PM
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4. I think it's a set up.
Like they don't know their base would freak the hell out? Yeah right.. it's just what they wanted. They don't want her to pass, and there's probably a dozen theories people can have, as to why. Mine is: Just a feeding frenzy for the media, they are so toasted at this point in the press, and then, she'll be voted down, and they'll nominate who they really want. It keeps them off the hot plate, buys them some time.

I could be wrong. They could be just weak and need the "moderate mask" on for the short run because of polls, press, you name it... and they threw it in, figuring she may not pass anyway.

Ehh who knows, they are so screwed up, I don't often try to figure them out for too long, it expends the remaining energy I have left after living a little bit of a hard life right now.

Balance, I say: read a bit, form an opinion/ gut intuition if that's all, and then go find a way to have some fun in your life, otherwise, what's the point?

Now if I could live by this, more often, I'd be better off (it does get addicting).. it's so curious, like "getting into the mind of a criminal"... I can't believe at times, I'm not reading a novel and it's actually really happening..

JMHO
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 12:34 PM
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2. If so, it would by typical. These guys are all about gamesmanship
they really have no interest in serving the needs of the people of the United States.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 12:39 PM
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3. unless we can dig up something substantive
She gets confirmed with 90 plus votes. The "lack of qualification" argument won't fly. THere have been many instances of SCOTUS nominees who had no judicial experience and were, essentially, political allies (or, to use a more perjorative term, cronies) of the President that nominated them. FOr example, Arthur Goldberg, who was named to the Court by JFK, was the AFL-CIOs lawyer. He was given the position of Secretary of Labor as a reward for union support for JFK in the election and then named to the SCOTUS. SImilarly, BYron WHite was chair of JFK's Colorado campaign. His reward was being named Deputy AG, and then, after a couple of years, he was nominated to the Supreme Court. Even Felix Frankfurter, who was a well-respected professor (an expert on Labor Law), got his appointment as much for the fact that he was an advisor to FDR as for his intellectual strength. And Abe Fortas was a close friend,and for a time personal lawyer, to LBJ, who later named him to the Court (Fortas was in private practice at the time).

So we've got to focus on what role she played in the Plame matter, in the search for chimpy's guard records, and in setting policy regardng torture etc.

Challenging her "qualifications" and "competence" is a dead end.

onenote
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AlphaCat Donating Member (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 01:20 PM
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5. The second I heard her name...
...that's EXACTLY what ran through my mind! I thought, who are they REALLY trying to get on the Supreme Court?
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 02:05 PM
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6. It is a good strategy and one that will work.
After the brouhaha, he brings out the real nominee.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 02:05 PM
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7. It is a good strategy and one that will work.
After the brouhaha, he brings out the real nominee.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 02:18 PM
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8. Strange games we play. If she is a decoy it is to fool the Republicans.
The Democrats are no threat to hold up her appointment. The Democrats in this Senate couldn't stop Bush from appointing Adolf Hitler to the SC. Oh i expect the Senate Demo's to ask some hard questions and when she refuses to answer (the precident has been set) half of them will vote for her anyway. We can blog our brains out but the die is cast.
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 02:27 PM
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9. The Plame indictments will be coming soon
If this is a decoy, it's going to take up valuable time, that the bushies don't have, if nothing else they better throw up a few roadblocks so that at hearing time this idjit* will be down to rock bottom base.
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Lori Price CLG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 02:52 PM
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10. That was what I thought, as well. n/t
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Humor_In_Cuneiform Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 02:55 PM
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11. A sitting duck?
Decoy.

A dead duck.

A lame duck.

A quack?

Ducks get bad press.

:silly:
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jim3775 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 02:57 PM
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12. Absolutely. Bush wants to nominate gonzales.
Edited on Mon Oct-03-05 02:58 PM by jim3775
The administration is hoping and praying that the Dems filibuster Meiers so he can drop her and have an easier time confirming gonzales. That is why Reid is sort of tacitly supporting her. He is calling their bluff.
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