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meatloaf Donating Member (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 01:22 PM
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Who's out of the mainstream?
As an extreme left wing liberal I've pretty much accepted the idea that I'm out of the "norm" as far as America's current political climate is concerned, but lately I've begun to think a little differently.

I read Mr. Gore's speech the other day on conservative media control and have long shared many of the same views, but I think I may have underestimated its impact.

Going into last years election, I really didn't think there was any way we could lose. I figured all but the most hard core of the kool-aid drinkers had to of seen through all of the lies and half-truths of this neo-con cabal. I just didn't think it was possible for the average person to be that out of touch.

I know, I know, I should've given more credence to the polls showing how many Americans still believed Hussein/Iraq were tied to Al Qaeda and 9/11, but I thought that enough had come out to at least cast seeds of doubt.

I know we here at DU are well aware of the "Liberal Media" myth, and are all too aware that it is an conservative owned and operated media that has demonized the very word "liberal".

Here in VA the Republican candidate for governor, Kilgore, is playing the liberal card to attack his Democratic rival. Thanks to the massive influx of outside intellect and talent into the DC Metro area VA isn't as hard-core conservative as it once was, but it still disgusts me every time I hear the word used as if it's some sort of negative. I think back to the last election and the Bushco camp constantly trying to label Kerry as Liberal and out of touch with "mainstream America". Which finally brings me to my point...

I just finished reviewing a polling point poll that of course shows the obvious divide between left and right, but it also revealed something else. Amid the usual opposing spikes in opinion on various topics was a sign clear as day that I may be not be as far out of the mainstream as I thought and that in fact, it's the Republicans who are out of touch.

Here's the link: http://www.pollingpoint.com/results_082205.html

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wtbymark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 01:25 PM
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1. "who's out of the mainstream?"
the mainstream!
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 01:27 PM
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2. bush approval at 37 with an anchor... Maybe you aren't as off main
as you think ;)

The junta is outta the mainstream, big time.
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 01:28 PM
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3. iasl
I am so liberal.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 01:29 PM
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4. I have a question for you
and thanks for the link.

You mentioned feeling certain we would win, and I was just the opposite. I felt certain from the time I saw Kerry nominated that he wouldn't win.

I'm wondering if you live in an urban area? I live in the capital of FL, but it is basically a small town.

Just curious about the source of our perceptions.
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meatloaf Donating Member (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:04 PM
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5. If anything I'm too informed, but with as easy as it is
to become informed, even accidentally in the age of the internet, I really thought enough had come out to reveal how evil this group really is. I was worried about them stealing it again with the electronic vote, which is what I suspect happened, but that's another topic. Even then I thought enough had come out about the black boxes to cast enough doubt should anything fishy happen. Yeah, right.

I know you can lead a horse to water and all, but if they're going to die anyway would it be more humane to hold their head under and get it over with?

Nevermind the kool-aid drinkers, I just never thought the average voting American was that willfully ignorant.

My mom said she felt the same way when Nixon won re-election.

Maybe we'll actully impeach the s.o.b.s this time.
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 04:02 PM
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6. I think a lot of folks are totally clueless.
It is still difficult for many people to know what is going on and then to understand the logical consequences. I think if folks had a better knowledge base and could see what the Republican ideologues are bringing about in this country, they would be horrified. Providing the knowledge and hearing meaningful discussions about how the deficits, availability of health care, good public schools, stable American families, an economy that benefits all Americans and not just the rich and influential, a sane foreign policy,...and all the other issues, about how all of that is impacted by the proliferation of radical ideology.

Little Sally Suburb, the banker's wife is busy playing golf, bridge, and tennis with her Republican friends and they think listening to Limpbulb is hearing serious political commentary. They believe it because they all want to, because it is socially comfortable. What it will take to get their attention, I have no idea. They are too smug in their comfortable cocoons.

Sometimes I have hope that if people have the knowledge they can reach logical conclusions, other times...I don't think they want to.
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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 05:56 PM
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7. I live in a rural area
very rural...in Wash. state, and I knew w/o a doubt, he wasn't going to win...I knew it when he took Iowa, and then went on to take NH..because what happened, seemed too strange..he was polling 30 some % behind Dean, for heaven's sake...to me, it seemed, like someone we didn't know, was controlling the whole thing, and I didn't trust what I was seeing...that was my perception..
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