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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 06:34 AM
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"A growing, deep discontentment & pessimism about the country's direction"


AP Poll Finds Bush Job Approval Remains Low
Friday, October 07, 2005

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,171607,00.html

WASHINGTON — President Bush's job approval is mired at the lowest level of his presidency, and public feelings about the nation's direction have sunk to new depths in an Associated Press-Ipsos poll.

People are anxious about Iraq (search), the economy, gas prices (search) and the management of billions of dollars being spent for recovery from the nation's worst natural disaster.

"There is a growing, deep-seated discontentment and pessimism about the direction of the country," said Republican strategist Tony Fabrizio (search), who believes that pessimism is not always aimed at the president and his policies.

Only 28 percent say the country is headed in the right direction and two-thirds, 66 percent, say the country is on the wrong track, the AP-Ipsos poll found. Those most likely to have lost optimism on that score include several groups that supported Bush in his re-election: white evangelicals, down 30 percentage points; Republican women, down 28 points; Southerners, down 26 points, and suburban men, down 20.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 06:36 AM
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1. Umm, we were saying this in 2000...
Now all that's visible is the tail end of the Titanic...

:nopity:
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 06:41 AM
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2. not too late yet to save America,
but we need to throw unnecessary stuff overboard. Buh-bye GOP!
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 06:42 AM
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5. It's getting press coverage NOW because of...
"white evangelicals, down 30 percentage points; Republican women, down 28 points; Southerners, down 26 points, and suburban men, down 20"...

...until THEY got pissed off, it wasn't "news"...

:silly:
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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 07:03 AM
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7. Come election time, the Republicans will shout:"gay marriage" and
"abortion" and all of them will jump right back on board. And the election is what count - not any temporary up or down. :(
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 07:04 AM
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8. inSeanity
It's Clinton's fault!

Didn't you hear InSeanity and Limpballs?

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http://www.webcomicsnation.com/neillisst
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 06:41 AM
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3. that picture
could hardly be more disturbing.

there is no comfort in being able to say "i told you so".
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 06:44 AM
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6. That picture...
...is my "a picture's worth 1000 words" FAVORITE of Bush, one that brings to mind the late, great Frank Zappa's song "The Idiot Bastard Son"...

...primarily because I found it by going to Google Image Search and typing in "Idiot Bush."

:evilgrin:
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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 06:41 AM
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4. So Fabrizio believes that pessimism is not always aimed at the...
president and his policies. Who may I ask would it be aimed at if not the president. He created the problems and now he has to pay the price.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 08:08 AM
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9. Here's what the Dems MUST do.

patricia92243 posted

"Come election time, the Republicans will shout:"gay marriage" and"
"abortion" and all of them will jump right back on board. And the election is what count - not any temporary up or down. :("


She's absolutely right that the GOP will do this. When they do, Dems must NOT buy into it. They must point out that these issues are all in the hands of the courts, that the GOP can't change that, and neither can the Democrats, and therefore the election is NOT about those issues.

Then the Democrats must talk about how the Haves are getting more while everyone else becomes more and more of a Have Not because of the GOP's policies.

Be specific -- don't let the people making $35 K think that they're doing so well that they should support Bush's regressive tax structure. Give them the figures so they'll see that the tax cut they were so thrilled to get is a paltry sum compared to what the rich got. Tell them how much money they'd have to have in their estate for their heirs to be touched by estate taxes -- they'll be amazed! Many of them think all estates were hit with estate taxes and believe the propaganda about family farms being lost to estate taxes. Explain how estate taxes help keep the playing field a bit more equal.

Most people don't mind others being rich, but they do mind unfair taxation. They do mind their jobs being shipped overseas. They'll mind even more of the Dems will tell them how corporations are allowed to act as persons yet not be taxed as persons. Tell them how much CEOs are earning today. Do NOT get sidetracked onto the wedge issues the GOP loves to use.

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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 08:26 AM
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10. "Wrong direction" polls, unless they specifically mention *,
Don't really say much.

Hell, they could be interviewing hardcore Bush loyalists who think that he is just doing a terrific job, but are worried because "all those atheists, homosexuals and colored folk" are taking over...

Trust me. I've met people like that.

They contend that its liberals and hollywood that have us on the wrong path, and Bush and the GOP, heroes who are standing up to all this, are victims of "the elites".
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