Who is your hopeful '08 Dem. presidential nominee?

[JohnnyCougar]

I hope this hasn't been asked to death, lately. It probably has, but i didn't see a similar poll in the last 5 pages of discussion.

I apologize for leaving certain ones out in advance, because I know I will not remember EVERYONE who is thinking of running. But let me know if I do.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

1. Wes Clark.

Although I like Feingold, I think Clark will have the hardest record to attack and would utilize his immense military experience in Iraq.

[libertynliberalism]

3. Sen. John Kerry

Hello folks. With an aggressive campaign team around him, I would like to see John Kerry run.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

5. Welcome to DU!

:hi:

[Maddy McCall]

6. Welcome to DU, libertynliberalism!

:hi: :toast:

[libertynliberalism]

21. Re:

Wes Clark would be my second choice after John kerry. I actually felt if we ran John Kerry/Wes Clark ticket in '04, it would have been enough.

Reason I think that is all John Kerry needed was Florida or a Ohio or some combination of 3 other states which were close. I think Wes Clark (West Point full military credentials), on the ticket would have tipped the needle in that direction.

[KnaveRupe]

25. Why?

Somehow, the chickenhawk republicans have managed time and again to turn actual military service into a liability, rather than an asset (Cleland, Kerry, McCain.)

Hell, after 8 years of bashing Clinton as a "draft dodger", they ran an AWOL frat boy against someone who actually DID serve (Gore), and still managed to keep it close enough that they could steal the election.

I don't see Wes's military credentials helping out as much as they should, unfortunately.

(Edited to add: Welcome to DU!!)

[Texas_Kat]

41. Not his military credentials

His foreign policy and national security credentials..... NOT the same thing at all.

Democrats haven't had a candidate like Wes Clark, in well, seemingly forever. He is unique.

[Silverhair]

53. There is a huge difference between a General's experience

and an enlisted man's or a junior officers.

We have had a number of candidates in the history of the US who have had a few years in the service, even uncontested heroic deeds, (Kennedy and Dole come to mind.) and those have mattered little to the public. After all, we are looking for managerial ability, not personal heroics in a POTUS. Accomplished Generals have demonstrated that management and so the public looks at that as a plus.

[libertynliberalism]

15. Re

Hey, thanks. I look forward to having frank and enlightening discussions with everyone here. I hope to learn from people here and share my views on what is the broader idea and purpose of liberalism and how it can be applied to solve the problems that we are facing today.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

16. Sounds great!

Hope you have fun.

[tmoore]

61. We need a winning team

I think Clinton can win. Wes clark .. not so much

[AtomicKitten]

2. Al Gore.

GORE/OBAMA.

Oh, I know some want to say shut up, but I am hopeful nonetheless.

[JohnnyCougar]

4. Gore has really moved left during his political career.

He started out as pro-life, I am pretty sure, he was a moderate in 2000, but now he is speaking like a true liberal.

But I guess he is not running. What are you going to do?

[Maddy McCall]

7. He divorced himself from Clinton.

No longer tied to the centrist Clintons.

[slay]

8. I'd vote Gore too

I know he says he's not running, but still. I'd also be cool with Howard Dean. :)

[Fridays Child]

14. My dream ticket...

[peace frog]

19. My dream ticket...

... Gore / Obama

[MoJoWorkin]

22. Yes, why not Gore in the Poll? It seems he is getting a lot of votes

Without being in the Poll. I would love to see Gore/Dean!

[greyl]

9. Tim Robbins or Clint Eastwood.

We'd get a lot of press.

edit: oops. I meant that I'd like to see them, or similar, be one of a dozen candidates.

[JohnnyCougar]

11. Eastwood is a Libertarian

I'd love to see him run on the Lib ticket, just to provide a voice against the criminal war.

[WA98296]

34. Clint Eastwood, the guy who threatened Michael Moore?

Are you serious?

[greyl]

44. I'm a little serious, yes.

I didn't choose "other" in the poll, I just wanted to add the celebrity idea. I'm not aware of the threat against Moore. How 'bout Robert Redford then? ;)

[Zynx]

67. I'm sorry, but it takes more than ideology to run a government.

[TomClash]

10. Brian Schweitzer nt

[JohnnyCougar]

13. Good idea

I'm sure he's not running in '08, but I'd vote for him.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

12. This has been asked to death. Let the leader of 2006 run in 2008.

2006 first.

These 2008 distractions show up every day it seems.

[JohnnyCougar]

17. Wow...Clark supporters are out in force!

Is it always this lopsided?

[second edition]

29. I amazes me! The Wes Clark Group site volume is so small

here at the DU, yet Clark seems to always win these polls. Hummmm

[second edition]

30. Kerry. All around most qualified and battle tested. n/t

[ultraist]

36. Clark is showing 1-2% in all real polls on presidential candidates

Yes, this one has been Clarked. ;)

[Sparkly]

43. Who usually wins those polls?

Maybe DUers are just more informed. ;)

[Jai4WKC08]

62. Not in "all real polls"

Mostly just corporate media polls. That should tell you something.

Here's an idea: If Clark does better at DU, kos, and elsewhere on the leftish blogosphere, it might be because leftist bloggers are more informed than the electorate at large, don't you think?

Fwiw, I heard Charlie Cook on C-SPAN last week saying if you took an unbiased poll, he'd expect Clark to come in with around 15%. He put Clinton at just over 30%. Can't remember the others.

[xkenx]

38. Clarkies Don't Post Heavily on the Clark Supporters' Blog

because we are preaching to the choir there. We spend more time on the rest of DU. BTW, any "vote manipulation" by Clarkies has been disproved.

[Texas_Kat]

42. Not everyone who supports WKC posts in the

Wes Clark Group at DU..... surprised?

[Totally Committed]

45. I, for one, never post over at the CCN (Clark site)...

I go there to read what Wes has to say, and what is being said to him, but basically, what's the point? Everyone there supports him. It is, indeed, preaching to the choir.

I also only post at the Clark DU Group when I have a question (I know someone there will always have the answer). Basically I go there every day and read what's there to make sure I'm not missing a media appearance or something.

I post mostly here, and over at Kos. I read other sites, but since I have a limited amount of energy to expend, I usually choose to go where I can help educate people about Wes or a pet issue, and to learn things from those who post there.

TC

[Adelante]

46. Hummmm what?

Clark supporters are all over DU, not huddled in the group. So what?

[Totally Committed]

52. Right, WesDem... it's not like we're one monolithic group...

Wes has supporters all over the 'net.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

18. Wes Clark

we need someone outside Washington, yet someone with managerial skills AND international experience. The military angle doesn't hurt things, either, nor the fact that he's from Arkansas, where I live :)

[joanski0]

20. Wes Clark. He is brilliant and

he knows how to clean up the mess in Iraq.

[Thirtieschild]

23. WES CLARK

We need his intelligence, his integrity, his vision, his willingness to tell it like it is, his executive ability, his experience.

[patricia92243]

24. Clinton/Gore or Gore/Clinton - can't make up my mind which. Gore is a goo

good man and would make an excellent Prez, but I'm not sure he can win.

[Crunchy Frog]

26. It has been asked to death.

Bracing for the usual accusations of Clarkie freeping.:eyes:

[TayTay]

27. I'm so glad you asked. DU needs another poll about '08.

The last one wasn't nearly divisive enough.

Can I vote for Dick Durbin? I love him. (Senator Sweetie)
Can I vote split? How about half a vote for Kerry the other half for Barbara Boxer. (Cux I just love it when the two of them stand side by side. Great photo.)

[Catchawave]

28. I voted for Edwards, but I think it will be

Mark Warner.

I like the 2008 polls, heck the MSM's already discussing '08, why can't we :kick:

P.S. I think if you throw out the highest and lowest DU vote getters, you get a better prospective, it's like judging international figure skating :)

[Jai4WKC08]

33. I'll assume you're being funny

But throwing out the highest and lowest "vote getters" would be more like throwing out the best figure skaters, not their highest and lowest scores.

Oh, and back to the topic... Wes Clark is my choice. He's the one out there campaigning for '06 candidates, and helping Pelosi and Reid develop their strategy to take back Congress. I don't see much of that from the other potential candidates, altho I'll grant it's hard to know what those actually in Congress are doing behind the scenes.

[trof]

31. Joseph Wilson

[IndianaGreen]

32. Evan Bayh is a puke!

Dennis Kucinich would be my first choice if he were to run again. He was my choice in 2004.

[hogwyld]

63. Me Too!

I admire Dennis' stands on the issues, and I really don't worry about a lot of skeletons in his closet. I voted 4 him in '04, and would again in '08.

[ultraist]

35. Edwards is listed below the "other" category?

The order in which options are listed is a Statistics 101 issue. :eyes:

Not that this poll would hold any statistical relevance anyway, just sayin...

[JohnnyCougar]

48. Sorry....I added him later

I forgot that he might run.

[hippiechick]

37. Gore/Feingold ??

Too smart for the average voter ? Maybe.

Russ needs some time to build up his name with Joe and Jane Sixpack before a Presidential run.

Al's statesman-like and battle tested enough - AND he's already been elected President once - that he would be a rock solid candidate to clean up lil' Georgie's mess. (I just hate that a Dem is gonna have to sweep up the BFEE doo-doo again)

[Larry in KC]

39. Wes Clark

I say it with no ulterior motives, and I'm also voting only once and expressing only my opinion.

Not only do I think he can win, I truly believe he could take giant steps toward healing the huge divisions in this country, which of course the * administration has made so much worse. I honestly can't see anyone else out there who could do that.

[Reciprocity]

40. Other: Dean/Edwards n/t

[Adelante]

47. I love that smilie

:D

[Reciprocity]

49. Thank's.

Most of the time it makes me smile. However I cringe when I post on something serious like a prayer request.

[Jester_11218]

50. Mark My Words - EDWARDS

An I'll tell you why...he has been accepted into the graces of the Bilderberg group. He will be the next president.

[tk2kewl]

51. Gore/Clark

[robbedvoter]

54. Clark. Period.

Wasn't Feingold the guy who voted for Ashcroft?

[...of J.Temperance]

55. A John Edwards/Mark Warner ticket...also for SoS and A-G if they win

With Wesley Clark as Secretary of State if they win and Patricia Madrid as Attorney-General if they win, she's currently the Attorney-General of New Mexico and I really LIKE her record in office.

[Pithy Cherub]

56. Clark! Well-rounded and experienced global leadership.

Wes Clark is the personification of what is needed to right the travesty of wrongs and rebuild hopes for America's future!

[WildEyedLiberal]

57. Why do people keep saying Dean?

He has assured us that, having the chairmanship of the DNC, he will not run in 2008. Unless you want him to break his promise, which would be rather shady, no? Perhaps the mega-Dean fans here should begin looking into other options, since Dean himself has stated unequivocally that he will not run.

[Reciprocity]

60. You could say the same thing about Hillary Clinton.

Why the double standard?

[WildEyedLiberal]

65. When did Hillary ever promise not to run in 2008?

I remember when she ran in 2000, she promised NY voters that she wouldn't use her office as a springboard for a presidential run in '04, before she had even completed one term. That didn't apply to '08, unless she has recently said something about promising not to run. But AFAIK she promised New Yorkers she wouldn't run in '04, and since I'm sure (or I hope anyway) that she wanted a Kerry victory in '04, that would have precluded an '08 run. But with Bush still fouling up the WH, I am not aware of any promise that would preclude Hillary from running in '08, since she will be on her 2nd term.

[cry baby]

58. Senators have a hard time winning presidential elections.

While there are a couple of exceptions, it would be prudent to go with someone who isn't serving in the senate.

I voted for Clark here, but I would like to see a progressive governer or two in the mix. Is anyone's governer progressive?

[McLuhan]

64. Wes Clark.

I voted for Clark as he possesses all the qualities of a great leader. He has little political baggage.

[newyawker99]

66. Hi McLuhan!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[FrenchieCat]

59. Clarkie here

votin' Clark.

If we are gonna rumble and kick some ass, we need a warrior on our side. Election 2008 will be a war.....don't even doubt it!

Milktoasts who can't fight their way out of a paperbag need to step aside. If they have no Foreign policy and National Security experience for the post 9/11 21st century era, they need not apply.

In addition, I will not support any politician in the Primaries who is staying MUM on Iraq right now......as it reveals two important features about their characters:
1. They do not possess leadership qualities if they are not making their views on this important and decisive issue known....
2. They are politically calculative, and care more about their "reputation" then speaking on what they believe and the state of our nation NOW.

Any politician who does not make his opinion on their stance on Iraq publicly known is chicken shit and is not fooling me one bit. I don't want someone who plays it safe....cause that's not what real leaders do!