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Tue Nov-01-05 11:18 PM
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Do you think that the Dems were just biding their time? |
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2214013Here, we see that the dems have been doing a lot under the radar. Have they just been waiting til they had the public on their side, thus allowing them to force Republicans to listen to them, rather than dismiss them with soundbites? Or are they just spineless but lucky?
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Tue Nov-01-05 11:21 PM
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1. Like a little Ying in your Yang? |
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I think the truth lies somewhere in between. A politician of any stripe is a beast with a keen sense of survival. This is not so with Statemen/women. That's why you see so few Statespersons in the wild.
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Tue Nov-01-05 11:24 PM
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2. What about free-range statpersons? |
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:)
Seriously, I understand what you mean. But what makes a great leader then.
Reagan, while not someone I agree with, was good at getting people to do what he wanted. He was a leader, even if he led us in the wrong direction.
What made him so different? Can politicians be transformed into people like him, or are they just savage darwinistic animals?
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Tue Nov-01-05 11:38 PM
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6. I do have faith for whatever reason in the nobility of man. |
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Edited on Tue Nov-01-05 11:40 PM by niallmac
It is hard not to be a pessimist in a world like ours but I am always hopeful even when I post in my cranky moods. I was fortunate enough to be politically alive when JFK was my president. I don't care what he accomplished or did not accomplish. He was my nations "Leader." When Kennedy spoke I believed all things were possible. Any fool can peddle fear. To cause a nation, a planet to BELIEVE that we are together capable of doing great things and that all we need to do is have the courage to imagine them, well, that's what its all about. I am a believer in what history tells us. History tells me dark ages are followed by great periods of enlightenment.
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Tue Nov-01-05 11:47 PM
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I just hope that we are all part of this enlightenment, and that it benefits all mankind.
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Tue Nov-01-05 11:24 PM
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3. I have thought for some time that they were lying in wait................. |
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and when Fitz indicted Libby, they knew it was an opportune time to make their move.
Remember, they have been AWFULLY quiet and mousy the last few weeks.
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Tue Nov-01-05 11:26 PM
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4. Rope-A-Dope? I dunno.... |
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I want to believe that they have been playing it strategically all this time so that when the timing's right...In a way it would make sense you know if your enemy is hanging himself don't interfere or hand him some more rope.
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Tue Nov-01-05 11:35 PM
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5. Well, they did keep hush hush with SS. So I was wondering if they |
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were doing the same thing with this.
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Tue Nov-01-05 11:42 PM
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7. i have been watching and listening to certain senators work to this |
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and it has been a long time. they get dissed on all sides including the dems, us. regardless of what they say, media slams them, ignores them, dismisses them or ridicules them. but you have been hearing dems work themselves to this. kerry start talking phase II a while ago. yes i think time as it has moved allows them to take it further. but this is not an easy process for the dems, they really have no supports including many on this board
just yesterday dems on this board were threatening fillibuster or walk from party. dems are spineless, gutless. though you can go through the months and see a lot of things dems have been saying and doing, being ignored by all of us.
they get on media, they are attacked, not allowed to talk or bullied into giving the answer the big head wants them to say, continually being interrupted if they dont answer like they are being told.
now i am listening to the same people that yesterday saying every rotten thing they could about the dems cheering them and wanting to send flowers.
odd, just odd
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Tue Nov-01-05 11:46 PM
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8. It does seem like while they're given thirty essay questions the repubs |
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get only one true false question, doesn't it?
And the repubs get three chances too.
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Tue Nov-01-05 11:58 PM
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10. biding time? - this remains to be seen...I hope so! Hillary just won't |
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be part of upsetting her stratagies to win in 08 and I hope Cindy Sheehan somehow could run against her. Hillary is nothing but clever speeches, Cindy speaks from her heart and soul with no carefully crafted scripts!
How could Cindy posssibly be worse then Bush? come-onnn...!
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Wed Nov-02-05 12:09 AM
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11. I wish Edwards and clark would run together. nt |
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