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dolstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 10:59 AM
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Once again, Dean takes the spotlight away from Edwards
Let's see -- Edwards places a close second to Kerry in the Iowa caucus. But Dean has a very public meltdown during his concession speech and ends up stealing the media spotlight away from Edwards.

And now, right when Edwards is poised to do well in a few Southern primaries, and emerge as the only real alternative to John Kerry, Dean replaces Joe Trippi with a corporate lobbyist. And once again, the media turns its attention away from Edwards to focus on the trainwreck that is the Dean campaign.

Honestly, what does Howard Dean have against Edwards? And why is the media obsessed with Howard Dean?
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 11:01 AM
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1. Did you feel that way when they covered Kerry's shake-up?
When he fired his campaign manager, it was news. Was that also a ploy to steal something from Edwards?

It is a pretty pathetic argument to say that an unflattering attack of a candidate which was labeled "Dean's Dead" on CNN was actually a secret ploy where Dean and the media are in cahoots to stop Edwards?

Gee, did you ever hear of the Stop Dean movement? Now that was real.
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LittleDannySlowhorse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 11:16 AM
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2. Are you saying that the shake-up among Dean's staff
Edited on Thu Jan-29-04 11:17 AM by LittleDannySlowhorse
was actually a calculated move, intentionally designed to sabotage Edwards? Few things can bring negative attention to a faltering campaign quite like a staff shake-up. Kerry barely survived the negative publicity that accompanied his staff shake-up a few months ago.

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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 11:26 AM
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3. Give me a fucking break
Yeah, I'm sure he got rid of Trippi for the SOLE PURPOSE of taking attention away from Edwards. And, obviously, he is the head of a giant media conspiracy to cover him at all times, even when the coverage is mostly negative.
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Metrix Donating Member (293 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 11:28 AM
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4. Dean is like Tonya Harding
He isn't going to go quietly.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 12:02 PM
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7. LOL, good one!
I agree. :D
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Donating Member ( posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 11:47 AM
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5. What does Howard Dean have against John Edwards
Probably nothing.
It's not a hate/love thing.
It's a win/lose thing.
Dean is competing with Edwards to be the nominee.
Pure and simple.
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chocolateeater Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 11:59 AM
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6. I don't think Howard Dean has anything against John Edwards.
I think that the Media is just obsessed with Dean. Why? It started out as a good story-little guy comes out of nowhere to become the front runner on the Democratic side of the Presidential Race. Then the normal take-down-the-front-runner cycle started; magnified by some because said front runner started speaking against media consolidation, while taking mostly small donations from ordinary people instead of corporate and big money donors. That made him dangerous, because he wouldn't owe the big wigs and might actually do something about Media consolidation. The story is not over yet though, Dean is still out there campaigning and he might come back from all this Media over-scrutiny, among other things. As a Dean supporter, I hope he does.
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FredScuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 12:05 PM
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8. don't forget Dean's unforgivable sin....
how dare he finish 2nd in NH and beat Edwards like a bass drum! He took all the attention away from Johnny Boy's 4th place triumph!

snarf
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 12:06 PM
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9. Once again, DLC'ers slander the only candidate who can win
But then, winning and DLC never have gone together, have they?

DLC = Democrats Lose Consistently
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 12:29 PM
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12. um
They sure won the WH for two terms, for the first time since the New Deal. I am not a DLCer, but I know winning when I see it.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 12:47 PM
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17. And lost Congress, big time. (n/t)
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 12:21 PM
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10. I'm sure Howard Dean
didn't plan this! Geez...don't hit a campaign when they're down. :(
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 12:23 PM
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11. CNN could show doctored photos of Dean
eating kittens and you would claim it was a plot against Edwards.
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 12:41 PM
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15. Couldn't win in his own backyard
Dean couldn't win in his own back yard...so don't come down on Edwards,heck Edwards did pretty well in Iowa, competing with the darling of the media for months...Edwards is in his own back yard, with so much going on to stop him, he will be a wonder boy if he wins. Frankly I think Kerry is going to go in the south, he has enough connection to John F. Kennedy to carry him through...might be putting my self on the line, but being the daughter of an old southern paid political consultant, I read some things different from some others...My dad said it was hard to get JFK, elected, but within months the south was amazed and accepted him as they did Franklin Delano Roosevelt , when he saved this nation after the Great Depression.People in the south almost worshiped Roosevelt and it lasted for three generation. It took the right wing republicans almost 70 years to ever put a right wing president in the W.H.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 12:31 PM
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13. Dean is the RW media's tool to help Bush win the election.
They built him up. That didn't work. Now they're taking him down in a way that takes the oxygen from the outsider candidate who has a chance to win.

The voters rejected the virst manipulation and should be able to reject the second.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 12:52 PM
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18. You're right that there's a RW tool in this campaign, but it ain't Dean
Who controls the current right wing? Skull & Bones and PNAC. What "Democrat" is tied to those groups??
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Anwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 12:33 PM
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14. What does Howard Dean have against Edwards?
I wasn't aware that Dean controlled the media. :eyes:

I somehow doubt Dean's "meltdown" as you call it and his problems with Joe Trippi were carefuly crafted in advance with the sole purpose of hogging the media spotlight from Edwards.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 12:59 PM
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19. Enough with the middle child syndrome already
Dean's actions have nothing to do with trying to take a spotlight away from Edwards. How absurd. If you don't like the lack of press coverage, complain about the press, not Dean.

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digno dave Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 01:04 PM
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20. wrong
These things have nothing to do with Edwards. Edwards got plenty of coverage out of Iowa.
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