"Critics are sending mixed signals to the troops. That is irresponsible."

[dave123williams]

(my bud Jed wrote this - it pretty much summed it up for me - he's on http://daysbreak.blogspot.com)

"Critics are sending mixed signals to the troops. That is irresponsible."

Irresponsible?? 'Bring 'em on' was irresponsible. Not properly equipping the troops was irresponsible. Allowing your country to become known worldwide as advocates of torture is irresponsible. Outing a covert CIA agent is irresponsible. Underfunding and undermanning the war is irresponsible. Still, today, pushing for more tax cuts is pretty damned irresponsible...

Mixed signals? How about 'Mission Accomplished'? How about "the war will pay for itself" or "there won't be any casualties" or "We don't do torture"? Those are mixed fucking signals. Seriously, I've had it. Hey George, why don't you just get lost somewhere in Asia and not come back? Better yet, why don't you contract the bird flu and then hermetically seal yourself off from the rest of the world so we don't have to listen to your bullshit anymore? I'm sick and tired of you and your cronies soiling our once-good name.

[Kota]

1. Well said! This is a nice short compact response everyone

using.

[Extend a Hand]

2. nice summary and rant. n/t

[wtmusic]

3. The critics never sent a mixed signal n/t

[kentuck]

4. Very well said..

Good job!

[harlinchi]

5. Irresponsible? This from a president who said things like...

...'Bring it on' and 'Mission Accomplished'?

[July]

20. Really. Good point.

I would just love it if the Nuzak folks would mention the Republicans' statements about Clinton in Bosnia. It would undercut this stupidity in a moment. And the argument could be made that when they criticized Clinton's attempts to get bin Laden as a "wag the dog" effort, they actually impeded defending the U.S. against terrorism.

[harlinchi]

22. How 'bout the morale of the 'wag the dog effort' troops?

Didn't they matter? Their concern seems rather selective!

[July]

25. Another good point. I'm going to use that the next time I debate a winger.

Why weren't Trent Lott and friends "harming troop morale" when they criticized Clinton's decisions? Thanks!

[MsUnderstood]

6. Hey I know it isn't your response. . .

But could we at DU provide some dates and names for the quotes. I know sending this out to my "friends" I'll hear back "That isn't true" or "they never said that".

I know some of the sources but I don't know who said "there won't be any caualties" and "the war will pay for itself" and I'd love to put this together with references!

Thanks

[JEDinBKLYN]

8. Ask and ye shall receive...

Halo, original author of the post here (from DAYS), just wanted to provide sources for these two items. First off, the 'no casualties' bit was provided courtesy of our good loony friend Pat Robertson, who revealed that Bush had thought there wouldn't be any casualties prior to the war. Here's the link: http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/10/21/wirq21.xml

Of course, this coming from Robertson mean he probably just made it up. Or maybe God told him.

The 'war will pay for itself' comes from Paul Wolfowitz, original Neocon Gangsta, among others. His belief was that Iraq's oil revenues would pay for reconstruction. Some background on this belief and other miscalculations related to financial cost of the war can be found here: http://www.house.gov/schakowsky/iraqquotes_web.htm

Lastly, you may want to check this post out for a whole lot of other reasons/miscalculations/etc., all with source links.

Keep speaking the truth everyone.

(btw: Is this the Dave Williams I know through Chris Cook? If so, get in touch mofo! E-mail's on the site.)

peace.

[JEDinBKLYN]

9. doh.

Here's the last link:
http://daysbreak.blogspot.com/2005/09/dissent-is-on-march-to-sin-by-silence.html

- jed

[dave123williams]

10. Wow - small world :)

Hey Jed; slammed at work right now, but I'll drop you a line later :)

[rock]

7. The dolt* don't even know what the phrase means

"Mixed signals" would have to come from the same source, and the Dems only have the one message. True, it's not the same message that bush* has, but that's just another message. What a jerk!

[Roland99]

11. Good grief! Every phrase or thought is now "irresponsible".

Where are the mind-control RFIDs?

[d_b]

12. blah blah blah

He's still beating that dead horse?

[Cha]

13. The Troops have a freakin'

right to know they were sent to Iraq under false pretenses..

Shining Light on the Dark cheney gang is something they don't want..and they're scheeching and bellowing to keep in dark in there.

edit~Recommended and that is a very good analysis on what is "IRRESPONSIBLE"!

[Joanne98]

14. Letting a whole country get looted was irresponsible......

Especially the museum..Not having a PLAN for winning the peace was irresponsible...the critics were irresponsible ONLY for not doing this SOONER!

[RobertSeattle]

15. Outstanding - I'm stealing this!

[Ron Green]

16. My signal was never mixed.

From well before Bush sent troops into Iraq, the only signal I gave was, "Don't do it. Let the inspectors work. Send in 3000 inspectors and let them stay 10 years. Do anything but start a war." I marched in the streets, wrote LsTTE, put a sticker on my car (it's still there), told anyone who would listen that it would be a big mistake. My signal was clear and pure, and the bastard that calls himself President of the United States has the temerity to say that those who now speak for me are endangering something.

[Burried News]

17. Mixed signals - like how to treat prisoners of war?

Like: Mission accomplished
Like: last throes
Like: we give the commanders on the ground the troop levels they ask for
Like: Freedom is on the march
Like: We will not resort to a draft

[Hobarticus]

18. Versus the administration's signal: "we'll gladly kill you for money."

What-the-feck-ever.

[EVDebs]

19. We didn't vote for "War Without End, Amen"

We want the Powell Doctrine reinstated NOW !

"Essentially, the Doctrine expresses that military action should be used only as a last resort and only if there is a clear risk to national security by the intended target; the force, when used, should be overwhelming and disproportionate to the force used by the enemy; there must be strong support for the campaign by the general public; and there must be a clear exit strategy from the conflict in which the military is engaged."

MILITARY STRATEGY: POWELL DOCTRINE
Background, Application and Critical Analysis
By Doug DuBrin, an English/History teacher and editor/ writer

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/extra/teachers/lessonplans/iraq/powelldoctrine_short.html

No wonder Rove wanted control of public broadcasting !

Anyone reading this please kick and vote for Greatest Page. This poster hit the nail right on the head with 'mixed signals'. Bushco is all mixed up !

[rman]

21. " We're gonna get you home" is one clear message.

How do you mean "mixed"?

[HysteryDiagnosis]

23. My pathetic pResident strikes again with another I know you are

but what am I moment. How childish.

[Miss Chybil]

24. Oh, the poor, little innocent troops. How dare anyone dash the

carefully crafted story Bush has weaned them on? What a shame. Now they know their Commander in Chief is a liar, (as if they didn't already.) It's almost like someone's telling them there is no Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny is dead. Oh, and I wonder how anybody explained to their virgin little ears what oral sex is? Poor troopies. Their innocence is lost, all because of those irresponsible Democrats. Evil bastards. If they could have just let the troopies believe just a little longer. Why'd they have to make them grow up so fast?

:sarcasm:

[OneTwentyoNine]

26. 1876 US soldiers dead since "Bring em on" July 2,2003......

A total of 2083 now dead,seems like just yesterday when number 2000 was announced.

[No Exit]

27. If "Mission Accomplished" wasn't sending mixed signals to the

troops, I don't know what is!