MURTHA WON

[greenpagan]

The GOP pushed for a vote on a non-binding resolution of a distortion of Murtha’s proposal. E.g. Murtha called for phased redeployment of U.S. troops beginning immediately.

>Murtha's resolution included language the Republicans wanted to avoid, such as "the American people have not been shown clear, measurable progress" toward stability in Iraq. It also said troops should be withdrawn "at the earliest practicable date," although Murtha said in statements and interviews Thursday that the drawdown should begin now.

The GOP version:

>Armed Services Committee Chairman Duncan Hunter (R-Calif.) drafted a simpler resolution calling for an immediate withdrawal of troops, saying it was a fair interpretation of Murtha's intent.

> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/18/AR2005111802896_pf.html

In effect, it was a parody of Murtha’s withdrawal plan.

That’s what was voted down.

But the genii is now out of the bottle. The vibes are out there.

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P.S.--You’ll be fighting terrorists in the streets of America anyway, as long as imperialist arrogance, corporate-totalitarian hubris & utter stupidity rule.

[alcibiades_mystery]

1. I agree

All the "Vote Aye" numbnuts on these boards have one thing in common: they believe the American people are stupid. They have that in common with their Republican enemies as well. Many Dems on this board, most Republicans, think the American people are stupid.

They are wrong. Time and again they've been proved wrong. And they will be this time as well. This transparent stunt was even shockingly transparent, and the debate went very badly for the Republicans, and they knew it by halftime. This was a disaster for them. The idea that they would bring this vote up for 2006 is such laughable nonsense that I can't bel;ieve anyone is suggesting it. The Republicans got their asses handed to them last night, and anyone who doesn't see that simply likes the feeling of being dominated, and so imagines it. They're masochists.

[Raffi Ella]

8. Thank you!!

Anyone with half a brain can see what happened last night.Hell even the MSM is reporting it as a stunt.Now if the MSM is reporting it as stunt then how the hell can Democrats at DU being saying we should have voted Yes on it?
It just isn't making sense to me at all.Wake up people and quit whining about this.You either are like alcibiades_mystery said or you must just not be following the story very carefully.

Which is it?

[Johnny Noshoes]

10. You have to wonder

sometimes people don't realize when they've WON. The Democrats did the right thing last night. The repug resolution was a TRAP and for once our side did not fall for it. Yeah it was a very blatant, transparent, scummy trap but it FAILED - we won this time.

[TheCowsCameHome]

2. The genie is out of the bottle. Step 1 has been accomplished.

Now it will gather momentum.

[Ian David]

3. What do we want? Phased Redeployment!

When do we want it?
At the earliest practicable date

[tsuki]

4. If the Conservative intent was to stifle all discourse, and shame

those who want a reasonable exit strategy, then the Conservatives have lost.

It is now up to the American Public to sort out Rep. Murtha's true message from the Conservative's McCarthistic reign of terror.

The Chair in the House stated the real Conservative Agenda last night when he equated the Conservative initiative with Murtha's proposal.

Is Rep. Murtha this generation's Edward R. Murrow?

[Jon8503]

5. Thanks for posting this - It shows how the republicans lost this one

last night. The posts saying the dems blew it are totally inept.

If they had voted for immeidate pullout they would have been voting against their constitutants wishes. Immediate pullout would be totally irresponsible and the republicans knew it.

Instead they took the responsible course and about the voting present, this was not a defection from the democrats party line.

There will be headliines coming out that don't look favorable as they always have been.

However, the end result of this will be as it is, a win for the democrats.

[Jon8503]

6. Repukes put up a resolution and vote against it. What does that

show you?

[truthisfreedom]

7. disingenuous! they HATE AMERICA!

[stray cat]

9. Rep. didn't have the courage to let Murtha's idea be voted on.

That would've been a legitimate resolution and they knew they couldn't guarantee the outcome. The rewording for last nights political stunt really just proves the weakness of their position