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Humor_In_Cuneiform Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 02:12 PM
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Apparently a simple explanation for MSM about last night is needed?
Edited on Sat Nov-19-05 02:52 PM by Humor_In_Cuneiform
Would something like this help to instruct them?




How about a nice graphic that shows:

1 Murtha's resolution, which did not call for an immediate unplanned withdrawal helter skelter from Iraq, but a redeployment at the earliest opportunity (document 1)

2 Hunter's stupid resolution, which DID call for an immediate unplanned withdrawal helter skelter from Iraq (document 2)


Which one was voted on? Document 2 (Republican Hunter's)


The significant differences between the 2 resolutions:

1 Duncan's called for immediate, unplanned chaos of withdrawal.

Murtha's allowed for planning and strategic needs.

2 Duncan didn't want his resolution to pass, he said so and voted against it.

Murtha wanted his to pass, but it wasn't voted on.

:kick:

If they don't get the difference and understand that what the Republicans did was just more deceit, then they have a problem.

I did hear CNN headline news this morning play clips of Kucinich being angry and some Republican being self-righteous. They said Democratics described it as "Quote: A cheap theatrical trick."

Are some really too lazy to take a little bit of time to check what really happened, to see if they really understood it?

From what people are posting, it appears so.

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Humor_In_Cuneiform Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 02:18 PM
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1. Ya think?
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 02:24 PM
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2. More Freedom Fries...
Terry Schiavo, antics...from the couldn't give a shit corrupt, crack-pot congress of the United States of Republicans
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 02:27 PM
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3. I think that point will be well-made before the weekend is over.
Edited on Sat Nov-19-05 02:28 PM by Neil Lisst
Already, it's getting play. The pub play such a ridiculous straw man.

The Pukes did something very transparent. They took a thoughtful proposal by a solid conservative Dem and trashed it so that it became something else.

Now they can say "we gave the Dems a chance ...."

This was merely posturing for a talking point for the pukes, and it will used by them ad nauseam, but it won't affect the public they have lost.

The Sunday talk shows will be all about this imbroglio, and I think Dems will be able to demonstrate Murtha did NOT propose immediate withdrawal.

I'm surprised that Pelosi was able to maintain party discipline, and pleasantly so. I didn't think she had control of her troops, but she does.
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Humor_In_Cuneiform Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 02:51 PM
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4. The graphic:
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 04:46 PM
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5. The question. Why did Republicans switch Resolutions?
Because they are afraid that if a serious proposal made it to the floor it would gain traction.
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Humor_In_Cuneiform Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 07:57 PM
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6. We know that, but we want them to think on it
I sent the graphic and text to a lot of media email addresses.

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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 10:11 PM
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13. LOL Sorry, I didn't find it that difficult of a question.
But you're right the news coverage of the event, which I watched in its entirety, has been lackluster, to say the least.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 08:01 PM
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7. Dems should have voted "present"
and walked out. Why do they think "present" exists?! They did NOT have to vote with the Repubs on this. They should have known how the media would spin it. They had the chance to avoid this, and didn't.
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Humor_In_Cuneiform Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 08:08 PM
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8. Of course if they voted present, the talking point would be that
those unpatriotic Dems don't support the troops, the nation, blah blah blah.

I'd have preferred a walk out, myself.



PS: The Voyage Home is my favorite ST movie ever!!
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 08:11 PM
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9. A walk out could never have happened
in light of the severe backbone shortage in Democratic leadership circles.

It would have been nice, and would have curtailed the spin. I would have liked it myself. But, if Dems in Congress had had courage, we might not have ever gotten into this mess in the first place.
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Humor_In_Cuneiform Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 08:37 PM
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12. Maybe not. But even that would have drawn other Repuke
talking points. About the unpatriotic Dems disrupting everything, as the Repukes little alligator tears flowed down their sweet little cheeks.

Histrionic personality disorder with Narcisstic PD, what a combination!



:yoiks:
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Humor_In_Cuneiform Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 10:12 PM
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14. I meant crocodile tears, too late to edit it.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 08:16 PM
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10. Nominated, excellent graph, but for the corpwhorate owned MSM,
your might try using smaller words.:kick:
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Humor_In_Cuneiform Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 08:20 PM
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11. LOL!
:rofl:

I was thinking of Olbermann's little props for explaining things, and of CNN's visuals for explaining money laundering.

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