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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:26 PM
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Poll question: Who won the debate?
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:27 PM
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1. no one did badly; Sharpton had lots of great lines
no one had enough time to get in enough info.

They went easier on Bush than last time.
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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:29 PM
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5. Some of them need to drop out so there will be enough time
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:27 PM
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2. Well, I was disappointed with Dean tonight, but he won the last one
Guess you can't win them all.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:29 PM
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4. I think he was still sick and down from the campaign "changes" its hard
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:32 PM
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13. Dean DID nail Cheney, though
Tweety talking with Dean right now about it...not backing down at all about Cheney visiting CIA and influencing the intelligence...pushing it forward.
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randr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:28 PM
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3. The American People Won n/c
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adamrsilva Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:29 PM
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6. I thought Clark did really well. Sharpton, DK rocked as usual.
Dean looked like he has gone through hell in the past few days. Poor guy.
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TopesJunkie Donating Member (979 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:29 PM
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7. 1. Clark 2. Dean 3. Kucinich 4. The rest
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:30 PM
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8. Clark is the most improved!
Dean seemed off a little. He's had a hard week. He gets my sympathy.
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Myra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:30 PM
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9. We all won the debate 'cause we got to hear stances on *issues*
'K?
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RafterMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:30 PM
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10. NPR
had a good criticism of Clark -- he answers many questions too stridently and lets his criticism of Bush overshadow his message. They contrasted this with his last answer (church/state), which was positive, authentic and heartfelt.

This has been my problem with all of Clark's debates, and I hope he moves toward his approach on that last question.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:33 PM
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14. hmmm--I thought he was good.
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RafterMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:40 PM
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18. Compare
The audience response on his last question to his earlier other answers. Was some of it the content? Sure. But his delivery was undeniably much more engaging.

From many comments I've heard from undecided voters, I think the biggest thing Clark has to do is convince the Democratic electorate that he is not Al Haig.
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 12:12 AM
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20. he was great.
n/t
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Qanisqineq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:31 PM
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11. I thought
Kerry talked the most but said the least :shrug:
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:35 PM
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16. It's Called Pontificating
in my book.

Does he EVER speak like he is talking to normal people and not a Senate Hearing ?
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Qanisqineq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:38 PM
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17. I call it annoying!
I wanted to say, "shut up and answer the question!" :bounce:
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dolstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:43 PM
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19. No -- Kerry doesn't talk like a human being, and like Gore, he never will
That's why we should nominate Edwards -- he can connect with regular people because he speaks their language.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:31 PM
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12. I thought everyone did well.
I don't know if you can win something like this. It's not really a debate.
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dsewell Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:33 PM
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15. Pat Buchanan got it right
Have to say I agree with his take. Kerry holds or gains on Edwards; Edwards was weaker than he has been in the past, Clark much stronger than in the NH debate. Sharpton keeps his base and maybe adds some. Dean did okay, won't pick up new supporters based on tonight's performance.
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AnnitaR Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 12:57 AM
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21. Clark FINALLY got some policy questions!
It's about damn time!

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fabius Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 01:15 AM
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22. Ok, now that I've seen the whole thing...my summary
Kerry - did quite well for him. Had as much fire as he's likely to get. He does pontificate but didn't hurt himself. Got in some good strong jabs at Bush. Kerry has incorporated as much of the Dean message as he thinks he can sell. I think that has helped him.

Dean - off a little bit, subdued. I would be too! Still he gets kudos for continuing to tell the truth. If your issues are anti-war, anti-lying-BFEE scumbags, then Dean's still your man. Weak jab at Kerry. Dean's not in it to trash Democrats though. Good shots at Bush-Cheney later on the Tweety show.

Clark - Plus. Solid discussion of issues, home run on the church-state separation, good delivery.

Edwards - No real hits. Thin on substance. Not his best.

Lieberman - Oh, please! No, I think he did fine, good performance, I just disagree with most of his positions.

Kucinich - Man, I gotta love Dennis! Go! Plus. Homerun on NAFTA. Another thing, the Bush plan for Iraq is now identical to the Kucinich plan. UN in, US out before the election. Anybody notice?

Sharpton - Much sharper than the last two debates. I know people are after him for getting help from a Repub. scumbag but Sharpton is hitting on some stuff that needs to be hit, particularly (1) unemployment rate for blacks is double whites, and (2) Reference to Bush* theft of Florida. Keep whackin' 'em.

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