Rummy declared insurgents would,henceforth, no longer be called insurgents

[dajoki]

WP
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/29/AR2005112901405.html?referrer=email&referrer=email

Rumsfeld's War On 'Insurgents'

By Dana Milbank

Wednesday, November 30, 2005; Page A18

Last weekend, while other Americans were watching football and eating leftover turkey, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld ended the Iraqi insurgency.

It was easy, really: He declared that the insurgents would, henceforth, no longer be called insurgents.

"Over the weekend, I thought to myself, 'You know, that gives them a greater legitimacy than they seem to merit,' " Rumsfeld, at a Pentagon briefing yesterday, said of his ban on the I-word. "It was an epiphany," he added, throwing his hands in the air.

Encouraging reporters to consult their dictionaries, the defense secretary said: "These people aren't trying to promote something other than disorder, and to take over that country and turn it into a caliphate and then spread it around the world. This is a group of people who don't merit the word 'insurgency,' I think."

Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Peter Pace, standing at Rumsfeld's side, evidently didn't get the memo about the wording change. Describing combat in Iraq, he paused and said, "I have to use the word 'insurgent' because I can't think of a better word right now."

" 'Enemies of the legitimate Iraqi government' -- how's that?" Rumsfeld proposed. ELIG

[kenny blankenship]

1. I know !! In the spirit of renaming "french" foods

we'll call them Freedom Fighters.

[louis-t]

2. Insanity. I can't think of a better word right now.

Rummy ought to be locked up.

[dajoki]

8. who could disagree with you?

[Bluesplayer]

3. Why don't we call them "redcoats?"

[dajoki]

10. yeah,

Cheney did try to compare this to the American Revolution.

[blm]

4. War of the Gargantuans comes to mind....

There was no other way to translate from the Japanese, so the declaration from the Defense Commander ended up like this:

From now on the Green Gargantuan will be called the GREEN GARGANTUAN. And the Brown Gargantuan will be called the BROWN GARGANTUAN.

[liberal N proud]

5. And these monsters have control of our government and some

really big explosive devices.

Now that is something to FEAR!

[dajoki]

12. in the hands of these whackos...

that is scary.

[Yoda Yada]

6. Why not call them Iraqis?

I thought only about 7% of the "insurgents" were from other countries....and the rest were Iraqis who just want their country back.

They need to fan the flames of civil war in order to do that.

[tsuki]

48. I thought that they were claiming that most of the in...errr...ELIG

were from other countries. Have they changed that lie? Too many lies, too little time to keep up.

[LoKnLoD]

7. ok since no one else brought it up

ARTHUR: O Knights of Ni, we have brought you your shrubbery. May we go now?
HEAD KNIGHT: It is a good shrubbery. I like the laurels articularly,... but there is one small problem.
ARTHUR: What is that?
HEAD KNIGHT: We are now... no longer the Knights Who Say 'Ni'.
KNIGHTS OF NI: Ni! Shh!
HEAD KNIGHT: Shh! We are now the Knights Who Say 'Ecky- ecky- ecky- ecky- pikang- zoop- boing- goodem- zoo- owli- zhiv'.

[dajoki]

13. LOL!!

[Burma Jones]

18. oops.....

[NoFederales]

9. How about 'freedom fighters' Rumsfeld?

NoFederales

[0007]

11. Rummy is busy playing checkers

while junior is crying his eyes out.

There are so many terms for insurgents, take your pick.
1.) anarchist
2.) extremist
3.) freedom fighters
4.) insurrectionist
5.) mutineer
6.) resister
7.) revolutionary
8.) terrorist
9.) radical

[dajoki]

16. they would use many...

of those words to describe us!!

[joanski0]

14. Well, I guess they settled on "rejectionists",

All of the neocons are insane, including Joe Lieberman.

[SnowGoose]

15. Well, considering how well "homocide bombers" worked

as a meme, who can blame him?

I mean we hear that term all the time, right?

Sheesh... can I please just wake up from this bad dream already?

[dajoki]

46. faux...

still insists on using that term.

[Burma Jones]

17. So Now They're the Knights that say:

"Ekky-ekky-ekky-ekky-z'Bang, zoom-Boing, z'nourrrwringmm"

[CTyankee]

19. That'll do it! Just change the word! Victory is ours!

Oy.

[dajoki]

31. they love their slogans n/t

[beingthere]

20. Let's bring back a term from about 25 years ago

--for Rummy et al, how about "ratfinks"? It's an epiphany! Throw your hands in the air!

[4MoreYearsOfHell]

21. This is NOT without precedent, you know...

"We actually misnamed the war on terror, it ought to be the struggle against ideological extremists who do not believe in free societies who happen to use terror as a weapon to try to shake the conscience of the free world."

GWB President's Remarks to the Unity Journalists of Color Convention
August 6, 2004

Why use "war on terror" when "TSAIEWDNBIFSWHTUTAAWTTTSTCOTFW" works just as well...

[dajoki]

22. love the acronym n/t

[4MoreYearsOfHell]

24. Thanks - Notice that you can not spell

TSAIEWDNBIFSWHTUTAAWTTTSTCOTFW without WTF...

[dajoki]

25. thanks for pointing that out!!

just got a funny thought; shrub trying to use that in a speech, his head might explode.:rofl:

[sinkingfeeling]

23. Oh, damn! Now they'll have to reprint that 'National Strategy for

Victory in Iraq' brochure over since it uses 'insurgents'!

[dajoki]

26. uh-oh...

somebody fucked up.

[Lone_Wolf]

27. Rebels has a good ring to it...

n/t

[VaYallaDawg]

28. What he'd prefer is a one-syllable word to fit on a bumper sticker

[dajoki]

32. something catchy...

to try and fool the people.

[cyberpj]

29. In this morning's PR speech, Bush now calls Insurgents "REJECTIONISTS"

I also read that the word "rejectionist" is used some 13 or 14 times in the new plan for victory document.

[dajoki]

30. Rummy' suggestion...

" 'Enemies of the legitimate Iraqi government' -- how's that?" Rumsfeld proposed. ELIG

[upi402]

33. '...and lo, there were Saddamist'

PC speech attempting to fix a real world problem leaves me with that honey-covered cotton candy, dry heaving, retching feeling.:puke:

[cassiepriam]

34. They just make this crap up as they go along.

The truth is the Iraqis fighting us are patriotic Iraqis,
defending their country.

[NoPasaran]

35. UPDATE: They're no longer shooting bullets at us either!

Turns out they're throwing flowers. High velocity, lead flowers.

[Spinzonner]

36. If Rummy had spent a fraction of the time he wastes on verbal games

on properly equipping and deploying the troops, maybe Iraq would only be half the disater he and the neocons have made it.

[Toots]

37. If they are not called terrorists then the war is not against terrorism

But everybody knows they are only Iraqis fighting a foreign occupation. IMO this is an open admission that the war in iraq is not about terrorism...

[dajoki]

38. it never was...

until we made it that.

[mmonk]

39. I don't think they care

[obreaslan]

40. How about Petroleum Obstruction Engineers...

Since what Rummy is basically pissed at is that they are keeping us from stealing the oil in a timely manner.

[Disturbed]

41. Gen Pace was laughing at the absurdity of

Rumsfailed's epiphany. Gen. Pace must be in an awkward situation haviong to deal with Rumsfailed, the person that screwed up the US Occupation of Iraq.




Rumsfailed Admitted to Violating Geneva Convention

Rumsfailed admitted in public on TV that when CIA Director Tenet requested that an Iraqi prisoner be sent to a secret Afghan/US Prison that Rumsfailed did so. After four months a DOD Attorney stated that this was an illegal act. Rumsfailed then ordered that this prisoner be sent back to Abu Graihib but the prisoner was purposefully not listed at that location, also an illegal act. Rumsfeld also admitted to signing orders for tougher interogation methods which violated the Geneva Conventions.

Rumfailed has commited at least three violations of the Geneva Convention thereby also violations of The Constitution of the USA. Recently it has been found out that even more detainees were "ghost detainees". The fact that Rumsfailed and Tenet have not been charged speaks volumes. If Congress wishes to garner any respect they should move forward with Rep. Rangle's Impeachment Declaration of Rumsfailed and also prosecute Ex. CIA Tenet.

The US, Govt., Congress, and the Justice Dept no longer abide by the Geneva Convention or the Constitution of the USA.

[dajoki]

44. The secretary recoiled in mock horror...

"What the secretary said," Pace continued, to laughter. But Rumsfeld's new description -- ELIG, if you prefer an acronym -- didn't stick with the general. Smiling, he uttered the forbidden word again while discussing explosive devices.

The secretary recoiled in mock horror. "Sorry, sir," Pace explained. "I'm not trainable today."

[Vickers]

42. Does that dumbfuck OWN a dictionary?

"a condition of revolt against a recognized government"

[POAS]

43. How about if we just call them Iraqis? n/t

[leesa]

45. Didn't he change the term 'war' the last time things were going really

badly? What was the term? Bush was no longer the 'war president' he was the 'ongoing conflict president' or some damned thing

This guy belongs in a straight jacket! Wonder if Richard Clark still considers this homicidal maniac his best friend?

[dajoki]

47. which time was that?

Rumsfeld said the insurgency "could go on for any number of years."

"Insurgencies tend to go on five, six, eight, 10, 12 years," Rumsfeld said. "Coalition forces, foreign forces are not going to repress that insurgency. We're going to create an environment that the Iraqi people and the Iraqi security forces can win against that insurgency."

[Rageneau]

49. Boogeymen? Outsurgents? Evildoers? Klingons?

[tirechewer]

50. He had an Epiphany

Rumsfeld can just bite me. Lets not call it crap and see if it smells like flowers.

I have my own Epiphany. People who love torture are not what I consider human. Rummy loves torture. He even makes suggestions. So let's stop calling him human. Scum fits him better. Let him insurge that.

I know. I should stop pussyfooting around and say what I really think.