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European Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:11 AM
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Bush had 8 months to stop 9/11. Dems need to bring this up everytime...
the pukes start spouting off about how superior they are on stopping terrorism. Lots of GOP bullying in the days ahead with the ANWR issue in the Senate and the NSA spying issue.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:12 AM
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1. bush has failed us in everything.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:14 AM
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2. that is what pissed me off so much about his so-called press conference
yesterday. He kept saying that if they had wire tapping they could have stopped 9/11

WHERE WAS THE FRICKN' MSM ASKING ABOUT THE PDB OF AUGUST 6th

or the reports of people only learning to fly, BUT NOT LANDING OR TAKING OFF

or the report under CLINTON BY RUDMAN AND HART WHICH WARNED OF THIS

Frankly, I dispise the MSM almost as much as this administration


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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 12:54 PM
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11. Correction- There were 52 such PDB's...and what about all the 'F's' that
the 9/11 whitewash comission gave him just last week...'god help us'...

'Failure' to protect America on 9/11? See signature link.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 02:19 PM
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12. Thank you for the correction
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:16 AM
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3. I'll have to drag up some of Clark's campaign statements
During late 2003/ early 2004 Clark was hammering Bush over his failure to protect America PRIOR to 9/11. At the time he was pretty much the only Democrat consistently weaving that into his campaign statements, and Clark made a lot of good ones about it; not just rhetoric, but specific facts and timelines. It was considered too radical by many Democrats at the time to imply that Bush was to blame for 9/11, but Clark made it part of this theme on accountability; the Buck stops at the Top. I am pretty busy today but if this thread is sill alive tonight I might be able to drag up some good material.
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:25 AM
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4. A Democrat would be president if any of them had uttered this one phrase
"911 happened on Bush's watch"
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:35 AM
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6. This December 2003 quote comes close.
"We need open government and new leadership that holds itself accountable for whatever goes wrong on its watch--especially when it involves a national tragedy like 9-11. The Bush Administration should be taking the lead in cooperating--not dragging its feet."

Clark made a number of damning statements about Bush and 9/11, this is a relatively mild one but it's the first one I could find. It relates to Rice trying to stonewall the independent 9/11 investigation Commission. Here's the full PR:

For Immediate Release
Date: December 23, 2003

No Exceptions: "The Bush Administration Owes America The Full Truth"
Little Rock--The Bush Administration is once again trying to stonewall the 9-11 Commission. Government sources told TIME Magazine today that National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice does not want to testify under oath or in public about the tragedy.

Wes Clark criticized Ms. Rice's stance:

"There is no excuse for failing to fully cooperate with this independent, bipartisan commission. We need open government and new leadership that holds itself accountable for whatever goes wrong on its watch--especially when it involves a national tragedy like 9-11. The Bush Administration should be taking the lead in cooperating--not dragging its feet.

To build a stronger and better America, we must find out what more could have and should have been done to prevent 9-11. The Bush Administration owes us the full truth and nothing but the truth. Unfortunately, they seem to be giving the Commission nothing but a stonewall."



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enigma000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:29 AM
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5. Repuke counter attack: Clinton had 8 years to stop 9/11
You know that's what the Republicans will say. It looks bad on both representatives of BOTH parties. Clark can use this line of attack because he was not part of the government. But Kerry, Edwards, etc. were in Congress at the time.

Probably why it has not been brought up.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:39 AM
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7. I don't accept that
Edited on Tue Dec-20-05 12:28 PM by Tom Rinaldo
Clark didn't accept that either. Clark made the point during his 2004 campaign that Clinton's National Security Adviser named Terrorism as the top threat facing America during the transition to Bush's Administration, but that Bush's team shifted their priority over to developing an anti missile defense system against rogue nuclear states instead as their top threat. Wes Clark was among those urging Richard Clarke to go public with his story of how the Bush Administration down played the Terrorist threat from the status it held under Clinton. Remember the story about the special task force Clinton pulled together to deal with the millennium 2000 Terror threat, compared to Bush's lax handling of the August 02 Bin Ladin threat report?
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European Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:43 AM
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8. Thats why I say, use it in cases only when the pukes are bullying.
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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 12:26 PM
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10. Reply:
clinton DID stop terrorist attacks for 8 years. Then Bush stole the office, failed to do his job, and let a second WTC attack occur.

Though the first WTC attack happened shortly after Clinton's inauguration (in other words, before he'd had much time to prepare or prevent), the perpetrators were arrested, tried, convicted, and jailed (all within the then-current due process system we used before the nuts took over). When we had a domestic terrorist attack (Oklahoma City), the perpetrators were arrested, tried, convicted, jailed (Nichols) and executed (McVeigh). In addition, the Clinton administration foiled several terrorist plots, including the Millenium plot, warned the Bush administration about bin Laden, and came up with an anti-terrorism report (which was shelved by Bush).

On the other hand, the Bush administration, in the EIGHT (not ONE) months between inauguration of the Chimp and the second WTC attack, shelved the above-mentioned report, appointed Cheney to a terrorism task force that did not meet in that entire time, and ignored warnings by several countries.

In other words, while CLINTON was in office, he dealt with those who attacked us and prevented further attacks FOR THE REST OF HIS TIME IN OFFICE. When BUSH was in office, he ignored Clinton's team's advice, took no significant anti-terror actions, and disregarded other warnings. THEN THE SECOND WTC ATTACK TOOK PLACE ON HIS WATCH. His response to that was to help the bin Ladens leave the country and to attack not only Afghanistan but a country not involved in the attack, thereby diverting important resources from the search for the real perpetrators of the attack, WHO ARE STILL FREE.

I would say Clinton did a hell of a lot better than Bush did.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:58 AM
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9. Pretty hard to do when
Fearless Leader spent a good chunk of his time on vacation.
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