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dapper Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 12:46 PM
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What if the Democrats are being setup?
The Repugs are corrupting the system, Bush has done a horrible job on the economy but who is it really going to reflect badly on if/when/as the economy crash lands? Bush will be long gone by then.

How about when our Armed Forces leave Iraq? Who is going to be in office to clean up the mess? Bush will be long gone by then.

I'm not looking at a conspiracy theory or anything like that but when/if the sheeeet hits the fan, it might happen with a Democrat in the White House. No matter what, it is going to reflect on the future administration. What better way for the Republicans party to gain the advantage again and further corrupt our system.

and on another subject, why is it so hard for people to Realize Bush+Oil=Higher Prices!??!?!

Thanks.. I needed to Rant a bit today. How about you?

Dap
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 12:49 PM
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1. It's going to be a tough job.
For that we will need a strong leader, not just a figurehead.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 12:51 PM
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2. that's what raygun and King George the First did for Clinton
and what Nixon-Ford did to Carter

this bunch of thieves have fucked our economy for two generations though.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 01:06 PM
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7. Yes, and we know exactly what's going to happen.
Dem gets elected, starts to clean things up, credit goes to some republican for everything that goes right and to dems for everything that goes wrong for the next 16 years.

Whaddya going to do?

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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 01:10 PM
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10. we need to castrate capitalism and real in its evil spawn
the corporations

we need to get all private money out of politics.

money has coopted our political institutions and turned the free press into the PR wing of corporatism
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 12:52 PM
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3. Republicans create chaos, Democrats bring order. Rinse and repeat
After the Republicans have royally fucked up things, people grow weary of them and boot them out.

In come the Democrats. They clean house, patch things up and put the ship on the right course. Eventually it turns into a nice, smooth cruise.

People grow bored and want some excitement. They vote out the Democrat and vote in a tough-talking Republican.

They seize the controls and it's a hell of a ride; some people fall off, but they're poor and can be ignored. Soon our USS America is sailing again in turbulent waters.

People grow weary of them....
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 12:55 PM
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4. It's an old tried-and-true method of the GOP ...
... follow a Dem president with promises of lower taxes, etc., then let the next Dem in office undo the damage.

The problem here is that this Admin went too far -- in every way possible. Those promised tax cuts lost their luster when the middle class realized it wasn't going to them.

The war in Iraq, the lousy economy, job losses, the deficit - this Admin has f*cked everythin they've touched.

The outcome: Yes, the next Dem prez has his work cut out for him in undoing the damage. But the other side of that coin is that ANY improvement in ANY area of American lives is going to be seen as ENORMOUS by comparison.

If a Dem were elected president today, and took the necessary measures to get the cost of gas and home heating oil down, even by the smallest margin, the battered populace would worship him like a GOD.

The Republicans who have any hopes of future advancement in their political careers are about to find out that THEY'VE been the ones who have been 'set-up' for future disaster.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 01:00 PM
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5. Cleaning up republican messes
is what Democrats do.
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 01:04 PM
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6. The last time we cleaned up a really huge Republican mess was 1931.
I'd settle for another 40 year stretch of Democratic dominance.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 01:06 PM
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8. Cleaning Up Elephant $#!+ Is What Democratic Presidents Do
They never get any credit for it, of course.
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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 01:08 PM
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9. It's the borrowing.
Edited on Tue Jan-10-06 01:16 PM by Festivito
Our tax dollars supplanted with about 25% borrowed money. Debt now over 8T$, GDP just over 11T$, Tax collection just over 2T$, yearly debt increase over .6T$.

The logic WAS that the 05-09 president would be the most hated. WRONG. Bush just increased the rate of borrowing. Like a guy living on 22,000 a year and borrows an additional 5,500 a year and lives like a guy making 27,500. His boss is impressed thinking he's only paid 22. (We're the boss.) Oh, and he's reducing his own salary according to some of the loudest of his bosses. (Fact is he owes 80,000 on the house, up from 60,000, and has not kept up repairs! Yikes!)

At some point, the interest payment will kill the borrowing plan. Something else might kill it first, e.g. China is reviewing our race to a train wreck and no longer trusting our dollars, OPEC might not trust our dollars, severe depression might hit, ...

The spin machine will blame Dems for:
talking down the economy,
impeaching Bush,
taking over in '06 elections,
taking over in '08 elections,
if not by '08, the next RepubliCON president will borrow until it cannot borrow any more. Then the rich will branch their families to better countries with better investments. SS will go broke. We'll look like a rusty old Russian vessel. Some bright guy will figure out a new S-bomb out of Switzerland and world power will shift from nuclear, leaving us to wallow in a broken worthless infrastructure worse than the aftermath of an Armageddon.

Setup Schmetupp.

EDIT: needed to include yearly debt increase. (Usually called deficit, deficit seems to be only the projected budget shortfall failing to include non budget items like IRAQ. Sheesh. Yearly debt increase is not spun as easily.)
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