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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 02:53 AM Original message |
How did Dukakis win the primaries in 1988? |
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Charlie Brown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 02:56 AM Response to Original message |
1. Alongside Gore, Bentsen, and Gary Hart |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 03:04 AM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Hm, I forgot Gore. That was a crowded year. |
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Charlie Brown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 03:06 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. I guess Bentsen didn't run |
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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 03:17 AM Response to Reply #9 |
17. ditto - One of the best political moments of all times. |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 04:33 AM Response to Reply #7 |
35. Gore ran as the moderate to Dukakis' liberal |
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dad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 02:58 AM Response to Original message |
2. I think I voted for Jesse Jackson in the primaries that time |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 02:58 AM Response to Original message |
3. His last competitor was Jesse Jackson. |
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WCGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 03:00 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Gore ran in that election as well... |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 03:07 AM Response to Reply #4 |
10. Gore was hyped as a contender for a while |
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CottonBear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 03:04 AM Response to Original message |
5. Dukakis was a very good candidate but the proto-neocons took him down. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 03:06 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. I can't believe he was a good candidate if he lost against... |
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CottonBear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 03:12 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Bush1 was an extension of Reagan. Dukakis was running against Reagan |
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Charlie Brown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 03:16 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Did anyone challenge Bush for the R spot? |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 03:25 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Bob Dole, Pat Robertson, Pierre DuPont, and maybe |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 04:42 AM Response to Reply #20 |
37. What? |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 11:35 AM Response to Reply #37 |
49. He's from Texas. It's a long-standing tradition in Texas |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 03:15 AM Response to Reply #8 |
15. Oh yeah, he was a strong candidate |
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rpannier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 04:19 AM Response to Reply #15 |
31. I don't remember him apologising about anything related to Dukakis |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 04:30 AM Original message |
He apologized to a lot of people, Dukakis included. |
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rpannier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 04:34 AM Response to Original message |
36. I stand corrected |
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MnFats (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 03:25 AM Response to Reply #5 |
19. that damn tank/helmet photo killed him. That, and the fact that |
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rpannier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 04:22 AM Response to Reply #19 |
32. He also fielded Bernard Shaw's question really poorly. |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 04:26 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Then there was the |
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Sinewave58 (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 06:37 AM Response to Reply #5 |
41. The Duke did not trust the Dem. experts |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 08:08 AM Response to Reply #5 |
43. Dukakis did his share of Lee Atwater style tactics |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 08:26 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. How is that an Atwater tactic |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 03:04 AM Response to Original message |
6. He benefited from the primary calendar and structure |
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rpannier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 04:55 AM Response to Reply #6 |
38. Gore was also having trouble raising money |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 03:09 AM Response to Original message |
11. Don't you remember the campaign? |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 03:14 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. I remember those men only vaguely. I was in grade school |
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CottonBear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 03:28 AM Response to Reply #13 |
22. JVS: study the history of the Reagan/Bush1 years and Lee Atwater's role |
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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 03:20 AM Response to Reply #11 |
18. That campaign was the dress rehearsal to what we witnessed in '04 |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 03:36 AM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Not just 94, they did it to Gore in 00, to Clinton in 92, to Ann Richards |
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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 03:41 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. I don't remember them really getting to Gore |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 03:58 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. With Gore they convinced everyone he was a liar |
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Smarmie Doofus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 07:33 AM Response to Reply #23 |
42. Point of info... correct me if I'm wrong: |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 11:26 AM Response to Reply #42 |
46. Not wrong |
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newblewtoo (332 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 12:14 PM Response to Reply #23 |
50. They took out Dean in Iowa and NH |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 01:29 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Dean took himself out |
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Zen Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 03:59 AM Response to Reply #18 |
27. And Bob Shrum was running both campaigns. |
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rpannier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 04:30 AM Response to Reply #18 |
34. Dukakis didn't fight back at all... |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 03:26 AM Response to Reply #11 |
21. Where do you see an attack on Gore, or the "We Suck" brigade? |
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punpirate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 04:00 AM Response to Reply #11 |
28. Well, let's not forget... |
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flordehinojos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 05:28 AM Response to Reply #11 |
39. the way i remember is similar but with some variations, for instance, |
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RoyGBiv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 03:15 AM Response to Original message |
14. Difficult primary ... |
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firefox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 03:57 AM Response to Reply #14 |
25. Had a famous stupid picture in a tank. |
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punpirate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 04:06 AM Response to Reply #25 |
30. The truly ironic thing about those pictures... |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 01:30 PM Response to Reply #30 |
53. I agree. Willie Horton hurt him more than the tank. nt. |
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Zen Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 04:05 AM Response to Original message |
29. Here's the list of Democratic candidates for president in 1988: |
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Aaaargh (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 01:22 PM Response to Reply #29 |
51. The Repig-friendly media ho's tagged them 'The Seven Dwarfs' |
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peace frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 05:54 AM Response to Original message |
40. From the Wikipedia link above, I found this |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 11:29 AM Response to Reply #40 |
47. Yes, W and Rove emulate Atwater, but only before Atwater's death. |
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Lefty48197 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 08:51 AM Response to Original message |
45. GHWB ran the sleaziest campaign in American history |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
48. The Massachusetts Miracle |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
54. Dukakis had a 17 point lead over Bush after the Democratic Convention |
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