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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 08:46 AM
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Katrina Vanden Heuvel on C-spn
Going against Alito!
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 08:50 AM
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1. Ugh, A DLC numbnuts on as well
:puke:
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GreatCaesarsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 08:56 AM
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2. ed kilgore looks awful
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 09:03 AM
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4. I couldn't tell what sex he was until he started talking
That's Pat!

Katrina is firing on all cylinders - War started on lies- Terror to be played heavily in the coming election cycle.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 09:19 AM
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24. Katrina looks like she did not brush her hair when she got up either.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 09:02 AM
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3. OF COURSE they have to have a DLC repuke lite on with her!
We had 45 minutes of REPUBLICANS ONLY calling in and now they have Katrina on, BUT she has to go up against a republican DLCer.:grr: C-SPAN is pissin' me off.:grr: ..This Ed Kilgore is a LOSER (he's the VP for policy????!!!!*&^%$#$%^)? I will NEVER support a DLC member for prez. Never.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 09:04 AM
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5. listening--She is saying that people are waking up (to the WH problems)
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 09:05 AM
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7. "Religion and Left Liberals" have a proud hx she says.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 09:06 AM
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8. says Repugs are trying to stop access to contraception-have increase
in abortions (do not know what countries she is referring to)
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GreatCaesarsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 09:05 AM
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6. caller - christians would rather vote against their economic
interests than vote for pornographers!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 09:13 AM
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15. Read What's the matter with Kansas--
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Jon8503 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 09:17 AM
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20. shows you how dumb and uninformed these people are as she
Edited on Sun Jan-29-06 09:18 AM by Jon8503
may want to consider voting against the so called legitimate republican corporations that are financing or have interest in pornography. They do love their money and due to the fact it is a billion dollar industry plus, corporations are involved as well as just the pornographers as she says.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 09:07 AM
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9. It is really a show of the Liberal Left and the DLC-divide and conquor is
the theme.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 09:08 AM
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10. "oxytoxin dittohead"--she was refuring to Rush L.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 09:09 AM
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11. saying we need a fair marketplace of ideas--talking of Left radio
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 09:11 AM
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13. I do not like this idea--pitting two Dems against each other.
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 09:17 AM
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21. I think they are sort of trying to play up the big tent
Kilgore of course is smoothing over the DLC and the common ground.
Caller goes after Katrina about limblob
Katrina says this is an economy that is not working for the commone people.
Lethal incompetence and degradation of this administration.
Terrorism Card played brutally. Gutted our security.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 09:23 AM
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27.  yes--Love the "Terrorism Card played brutally." last election
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 09:34 AM
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34. Thanks for listening in
All done now.
She is so smart and really tells it like it is.
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 09:14 AM
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16. "oxytoxin dittohead"
:rofl:
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 09:10 AM
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12. Kilgore Makes Good Points
I still have a lot of respect for those who are Sam Nunn Democrats...the very original DLC'ers. These are very pro-defense and for fiscal responsibility. These aren't the DLC'ers like Elmendorf who are solely into it for the money and power. He's saying some ways that Progressives, Liberals, Independents and Moderates can find common ground and highlight that unity to beat a common enemy.

There are DLC'ers and other "DINOs" that need to be exposed for their own opportunism, but I don't fault those who have a different political or ideological view than I do...that's what makes a party stronger in the long run.

Looks like Kristina got a little stung by some of our fellow bloggers recently...hmmm...
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 09:12 AM
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14. nurse calling in--saying not recommending their kids/friends go into
nurising. overworked.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 09:15 AM
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17. jr answers everything with terrorism and fear--This woman has a long list
and she is right on. good for her.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 09:16 AM
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18. a caller says Gore won--but Bush is doing the best he can in Iraq.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 09:17 AM
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19. "lethel incompetence" of this administration. WHOW>
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 09:18 AM
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23. and the moral incompetance of this administration--Wish all Dems would
talk like this.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 09:17 AM
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22. I (heart) K V H
:swoon:
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 09:20 AM
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25. me too
:bounce: :loveya:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 09:21 AM
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26. saying we need out of the fear that has been installed in many of BushCo.
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Jon8503 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 10:40 AM
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38. Two Top Papers Ask: Is the Earth Heading for Doom--With an Assist from the
By E&P Staff - Published: January 28, 2006 10:00 PM ET

NEW YORK While most Americans remain preoccupied with war, terrorism, high gas prices--or the coming Pitt-Jolie baby--an issue that may dwarf all of those concerns receives major attention on the front page of the Sunday editions of The New York Times and The Washington Post. One story raises a nightmare global warming scenario for the end of the world, at least as we know it, while the other suggests that the Bush administration doesn't want anyone to know about that.

Here are the opening paragraphs of the two stories.

*
From The Washington Post article by Juliet Eilperin:

Now that most scientists agree human activity is causing Earth to warm, the central debate has shifted to whether climate change is progressing so rapidly that, within decades, humans may be helpless to slow or reverse the trend.

This "tipping point" scenario has begun to consume many prominent researchers in the United States and abroad, because the answer could determine how drastically countries need to reduce their greenhouse gas emissions in the coming years. While scientists remain uncertain when such a point might occur, many say it is urgent that policymakers cut global carbon dioxide emissions in half over the next 50 years or risk the triggering of changes that would be irreversible.

There are three specific events that these scientists describe as especially worrisome and potentially imminent, although the time frames are a matter of dispute: widespread coral bleaching that could damage the world's fisheries within three decades; dramatic sea level rise by the end of the century that would take tens of thousands of years to reverse; and, within 200 years, a shutdown of the ocean current that moderates temperatures in northern Europe.

The debate has been intensifying because Earth is warming much faster than some researchers had predicted. James E. Hansen, who directs NASA's Goddard Institute of Space Studies, last week confirmed that 2005 was the warmest year on record, surpassing 1998. Earth's average temperature has risen nearly 1 degree Fahrenheit over the past 30 years, he noted, and another increase of about 4 degrees over the next century would "imply changes that constitute practically a different planet."

"It's not something you can adapt to," Hansen said in an interview. "We can't let it go on another 10 years like this. We've got to do something."
*

From The New York Times article by Andrew C. Revkin:

The top climate scientist at NASA says the Bush administration has tried to stop him from speaking out since he gave a lecture last month calling for prompt reductions in emissions of greenhouse gases linked to global warming.

The scientist, James E. Hansen, longtime director of the agency's Goddard Institute for Space Studies, said in an interview that officials at NASA headquarters had ordered the public affairs staff to review his coming lectures, papers, postings on the Goddard Web site and requests for interviews from journalists.

Dr. Hansen said he would ignore the restrictions. "They feel their job is to be this censor of information going out to the public," he said.

Dean Acosta, deputy assistant administrator for public affairs at the space agency, said there was no effort to silence Dr. Hansen. "That's not the way we operate here at NASA," Mr. Acosta said. "We promote openness and we speak with the facts."

He said the restrictions on Dr. Hansen applied to all National Aeronautics and Space Administration personnel. He added that government scientists were free to discuss scientific findings, but that policy statements should be left to policy makers and appointed spokesmen.

Mr. Acosta said other reasons for requiring press officers to review interview requests were to have an orderly flow of information out of a sprawling agency and to avoid surprises. "This is not about any individual or any issue like global warming," he said. "It's about coordination."

Dr. Hansen strongly disagreed with this characterization, saying such procedures had already prevented the public from fully grasping recent findings about climate change that point to risks ahead.

"Communicating with the public seems to be essential," he said, "because public concern is probably the only thing capable of overcoming the special interests that have obfuscated the topic."

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001920362


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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 09:24 AM
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28. caller: this is suppose to be the hr of improving Dem party but all hear i
s Bush bashing. umm...yes, been lots of that--
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 09:26 AM
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30. "Alternative State of the UNION"--special edition of Nation--labor as a
fundamental vital part of our country. Should not be treated as a special interest.
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 09:25 AM
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29. Caller only hears bush bashing- you can't blame him for everything
Wants Condi for pres. :puke:
Katrina- holding corporations accountable- historic corporate gaming of our country.
George Miller lays out why we need a labor movement- Working people are being run into the ground.
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 09:28 AM
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31. Republicans think Regulations are terrible
Katrina - the regulatory rollback is causing much of our problems
Kilgore- Bush abandoned an economic program that was working well and focused obsessively on tax cuts and enriching the top
Katrina- Dems didn't help voting for bankruptcy bill and death tax
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 09:30 AM
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32. Steve mentioning dubby's 41 % approval
Katrina- dems don't have Abramoff money
Kilgore- dems need to hold themselves to high standard - campaign finance
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 09:32 AM
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33. Katrina responds to poll numbers that the US peeps think that
congressional corruption is a bipartison problem.

She nails the media as the source of this info (Abramoff scandal lies) for the public....
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 09:36 AM
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35. Kilgore from DLC was surprisingly in agreement with Katrina
Could it be that the Democrats are actually trying to get their shit together.
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Boredtodeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 09:43 AM
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36. Dream on
Edited on Sun Jan-29-06 09:44 AM by Boredtodeath
Kilgore was trying to appear reasonable. He was TERRIFIED by the callers and Katrina.

It was hard to tell who was more subdued on C-Span this AM - Chris Shays or Ed Kilgore.

What amazes me is that CSpan only allows republican callers while the republicans are on, but anyone while the democrats are on. The phone lines were jammed with freepers. I know I tried to call and tried and tried and tried..........etc........

on edit:

Also have to mention that the hair in his eyes kept him too busy to listen. What the hell WAS that?
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cybildisobedience Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 12:21 PM
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39. I know....
I turned on C-Span and this first thing I see was this......caricature of some out of the loop loser and then I see that he is the vp of POLICY for the DLC.
Could they FIND a more ineffective and distracting spokesperson?
What was the audience they thought THIS guy would appeal to -- people who have hostages chained up in the basement AND are interested in bi-partisanship?
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 09:44 AM
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37. One can only hope
:grouphug:
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