Unbelieveable! MSNBC actually reporting the TRUTH about Iran...

[Wordie]

on of all things, "Weekends with Maury and Connie"!

Said that we were involved in the coup that installed the Shah, and that we first provided them with their first nuclear reactor! Program is continuing...

[otohara]

1. They Report The Truth on Sunday's When Nobody

watching....and when the moon is full and in lunar rotation

[Wordie]

4. They've gone on to talk about all the problems w/Iran now. eom

[medeak]

2. that's Connie's piece....wait for Maury's turn n/t

[confludemocrat]

3. How about how despite the real threat they present, we're now too weak

to deal with them in any way, shape or form? and so now even the tough talk sounds delusional

[OldLeftieLawyer]

7. How about the fact that

in ousting Saddam Hussein we've successfully removed the last secular barrier between Iran and the rest of the Middle East (and the US)?

Now, with our military forces essentially incapacitated, and, at the very least, exhausted, we can't do shit about whatever Iraq decides to do, and we know it. Fuckface will, of course, continue to lie.

So what else is new?

Watch for $25 a gallon gas within 12 months.

[leftchick]

15. $25 a gallon???

you mean that is if we hit Iran right? Damn, I am glad I can walk to a lot of places I need to go.

[OldLeftieLawyer]

16. No, we're not "hitting Iran"

We've got nothing.

Iran - and, for the most part, anyone else - can do whatever they want to us, to oil prices, to anything that affects us and we're powerless. Fuckface has squandered every bit of goodwill and credibility we have, we're broke, and our military is worn out.

So, if the oil-producing nations decide it's time to crush us, that's what they'll do.

I got a feeling about this, and it's not good.

[Auntie Bush]

24. Damn, our closest store is 8 miles...and I don't run....and we sold our

horses.

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[pretzel4gore]

9. no no no...

carter was only on base for 4 years, and the policies affecting iran have evolved from long before....ever heard of mossedegh? the 'west' overthrew mossedegh anf installed fake emperor shah of iran- from that flowed what must be utter contempt for the 'west' (who, btw, operated in secret w/out much public say)...jfk was murdered for not being 100 percent a exploiter and user of brute force; carter knew it and ...well look who's been fukked? the american people, that's who....

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[slaveplanet]

14. yep- the CIA/MI6

ousted Mossadegh because he wanted to up the percentage of Iran's cut of the oil revenue in order to increase social services and the betterment of the Iranian peoples. He was probably one of the quickest examples of how you can go from Times man of the year to Rogue lefty communist in modern bizzaro world history.
The CIA has since admitted that they repeatedly false flag bombed innocent civilians to blame it on Mossedegh and bolster support for their fascist puppet. After the Shah was installed they would force the population to gather at the roadside in the sun for hours to salute the CIA monkeyboy. Repression was rampant under the Shah creating ripe conditions for the Ayatollah to be installed(from France..CIA again??)

One need not look far to see who is ultimately responsible for the present situation...It ultimately lies with the fascists of America and Great Britain.

BTW- Clinton and his secretary of State issued the first American apologies for these CIA crimes. The whole sordid affair has not been acknowledged officially prior or since.

[doublethink]

10. Look up Kissinger ..... Nixon ....

Rumsfield, Cheney, The Shah Of Iran ..... you'll get the correct administration next time. :)

Note: here's a recent article that covers some of this history for your enjoyment. http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m19919&l=i&size=1&hd=0

"As for nuclear development and the needs of Iran, it is important to note that when the Shah came to power, he and his U.S. overseers set up a plan to have 23 nuclear power stations in the country. Both Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, under President Richard M. Nixon, and President Gerald Ford signed orders authorizing U.S. government and industry support for Iran’s nuclear development." -snip-

Peace.

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[doublethink]

13. Welcome to DU by the way.

:hi: Interesting how the present administration argues the point why Iran would want nuclear energy with all that oil? When back in the 70's the U.S. Oil company's and Government were promoting a nuclear energy program for Iran so they (Big Oil) could sell, profit off that same oil rather than use it for the energy consumption of the Iranian people. If you further Google Cheney, Rumsfield ...... they were deeply involved in this back then. But now they state just the opposite. Hypocritical to say the least, to be expected. Peace. :)

[Wordie]

23. The program mentioned that although Iran has LOTS of oil,

they have no refineries, so they have to buy all the refined oil they use from other countries. It's been said that's why they want the nuclear energy plants.

Of course, it seems to me that they might consider building refineries, if that's the real issue...

[doublethink]

25. Either way ........

is it really any of 'our business' what a sovereign nation might want to do with 'their resources'? Or are 'their resources' our real 'interest' in the Bush administrations eyes? I saw recently where their (Irans) President wanted to investigate the Bush torture practices. That was turning the tables in a enlightening way to a lot of people and I had to laugh. Not at the torture but the absurdity he threw back at the U.S. administration for getting into other peoples business. Terror terror terror booga booga booga suspicion, suspicion suspicion. If Iran even thought of nuking Israel, or anywhere else, they would instantly become a parking lot. I really don't think that is their intention, through all the threats. Maybe I am wrong, but it's not worth starting WW3 for where I think Bush is headed with his policy's. Why doesn't the Bush administration even consider talking to these people if they real want to promote world ....... Peace. :)

[enid602]

6. Halliburton

Don't forget that Halliburton sold Iran nuclear components in the past, and maintained a secret office in Tehran until 2003.

[Mutley]

8. This is MSNBC -- same as MSRNC?

Someone must be out sick for the day.

[sandnsea]

17. They do try to dissect

I've only watched them twice, but both times they were presenting both sides in order to have a chance to get the liberal side out at all. And the program is obviously geared to the level of an 8 year old, but maybe that's what we're dealing with. I'll still withhold judgment on them until I see more. Some fair news is better than none at all.

[jazzjunkysue]

18. Sorry to hear Connie's show will be cut: She's been burned before.

(In case you don't get the joke: They'll cancel the show for this....) I'm sure next week they'll make up for it by doing a piece on gay/lesbian librul pet-starving, drug-abusing baby-killing vampire pornographers from Massachusetts.

[Doctor_J]

19. Nice sig line, sue

do you have a cite for it? Schleifer is a friend of the * family. I am surprised he would step out like that.

[jazzjunkysue]

21. Don't remember. It was about the AWOL. Scheiffer did a personal

opinion at the end of his news, and said it on live TV. I'll have a look in the files, or google.

[jazzjunkysue]

22. Here, TOJ: It was Plame/Novak/Bush refusing to clean house

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/07/18/opinion/schieffer/main709807.shtml

Very Dangerous Business

WASHINGTON, July 17, 2005
Can anything said from the White House podium be taken at face value, or does the White House just deny automatically anything that reflects badly on it?


CBS) Weekly commentary by CBS Evening News Anchor and Face the Nation host Bob Schieffer.
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Instead of appointing a special prosecutor, what if the president had just called in his top people in the beginning of all this and said, "Folks, we have a problem here. I need to know who's been talking to Bob Novak and I need to know today by the end of business?" That's what presidents used to do, and they're usually pretty good at finding out when they really want to know.

Not many people had the nerve to lie to Lyndon Johnson when he looked them in the eye, and Richard Nixon figured out early on who Deep Throat was, and now we know from Woodward and Bernstein that on that one Nixon was right.

Instead, this White House did what it usually does when challenged: It went into attack mode, called charges that the White House had leaked the name ridiculous, and allowed the controversy to boil until a special prosecutor had to be appointed. Now two years and millions of tax dollars later, the president's trusted friend and strategist Karl Rove has emerged as the top suspect, and we're left to wonder: Can anything said from the White House podium be taken at face value, or does the White House just deny automatically anything that reflects badly on it?

This could and should have been dealt with inside the White House long before it reached the special prosecutor level. Instead, the president's people followed the modern public relations rule, "Never admit a mistake, just do what is necessary to kill the story before it kills you," which often works.

What they are learning, though, is that when that involves tearing down the character of your critics, it can also be very dangerous business.



By Bob Schieffer
©MMV, CBS Broadcasting Inc. All Rights Reserved.

[Hello_Kitty]

26. Aw damn it! Profiling my family AGAIN? n/t

[oblivious]

20. I think NBC is business-oriented and business is scared shitless of this.

I know that's a superficial impression, but there it is. Even an embargo would mean the end of cheap oil, the foundation of industry. Fox sticks with whatever the govt wants, but NBC seems very nervous about all this.