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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 02:28 AM
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Raw Story: Dems say they're in 'weaker position than hoped' for 2006 (NYT)
NYT Weds: Democrats say they're in 'weaker position than hoped' for 2006

RAW STORY
Published: February 7, 2006

"Democrats are heading into this year's election in a weaker position that they might have hoped, party leaders say, stirring concern that they are letting pass an opportunity to exploit what they see as widespread Republican vulnerabilities," the New York Times will report on page ones Wednesday.

The article outlines the outlook for the party in the 2006 Congressional elections.

"Senior Democrats say they are hopeful about gains in congressional elections, but many expressed concern that Democrats were letting a crucial chance pass to transform this year's elections into a national referendum on the Republican Party," the Times adds.
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purduejake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 02:29 AM
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1. THEN DO SOMETHING!
PARTY LEADERS ARE SAYING THIS?!? Why in the hell aren't they leading then?!?!? OMG!
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 02:30 AM
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2. This post has already been hashed to death tonight..
Further down the board somewhere..
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 02:32 AM
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4. I tried searching for it and didn't find it...
...but assumed it was the kind of thing that wouldn't stay unnoticed on Raw's front page for long.

:patriot:
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 02:30 AM
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3. Of course they're in a weaker position...all they're taking
are weaker positions.
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badgerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 02:35 AM
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5. oh, for crying out loud...
For the last 5 years, most of the Dems have behaved like spineless emasculated robots...
and NOW they are starting to worry about their position?
Ah well...better late than never, I suppose. :eyes:
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MatrixEscape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 02:58 AM
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6. Considering the obvious complacency,
that is not surprising.

Many of us can see that the usual game of politics is now working to the disadvantage our or prospective causes and altruistic purposes. The corporate bottom-line has usurped everything, including, God,. reason, common sense, ethics, and altruism.

When do we collectively get together on that demonstrable and concise, clear fact, and decide, out of dire need, to break out of the prison of partisan politics and media control to find any way to a satisfactory solution to our current, Constitutional Crisis?

What is it going to take? The jackboot on our faces, or a dramatic shift into a cleary defined, new paradigm of response?

Will it be what we call the Democratic Party, (everything now is subject to change, based on funding) or a resounding voice that says, "Give me liberty or give me death!" along with the resulting platform that has ensued, historically, form that undeniable premise?

You want Superbowl, Cable, Dish, Credit Cards, Status quo. etc.? Or did you want a solid, political premise for everything you do within the context of your current idea of society.

Decide now because the cost of all the cool baubles they are throwing out to entice you to be a total slave, (and give your children to their cause) are already in place and growing. If your brain-washed choices at your life-style where the only factor, then what you imagine to be democracy and freedom are already totally dead issues at this point.

How very sad it is to consider that your patriotic lust for stuff and services provided by the followers of pure, religious Capitalism, would lead to a total and inescapable, completely monitored, environment wherein the idea of freedom would become totally obsolete, as we know it now.

Go watch some TV. Buy a DVD. Engross yourself in a sport. Pretend you have a say-so in politics while you see corrupted technology as it owns the machines you vote on!

You know, not to distant in the future, following your tendency to not buck the norm in order to get the vital gifts it now owns and bestows upon you, what I am saying now will mean nothing to the children you have made, or the children they beget. NOTHING!
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 03:05 AM
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7. Which ''party leaders" and "Senior Democrats" said this?
Unnamed party leaders and Senior Democrats? I can't find the article on Raw Story to verify.

Until I have names and verification this sounds like it was written by Rove.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 03:13 AM
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9. They're pointing to a NYT article to be published today...
...and regardless of how it's verified, the whole thing STINKS of Rove.

This is what he does, this is how he does it.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 05:30 AM
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13. It stinks more of DLC Democrats to me.........
this is exactly what I'd expect the DLC to say in this position. What the hell, they act like Republicans anyway, why not just admit it? When our Democratic "leaders" say stuff like this I'm convinced that the fight is already over, they're giving up and joining the GOP/Corporate takeover of America.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 08:17 AM
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16. I couldn't agree more.
I think the Republican party is responsible for alot of articles like that. They just start a rumor that the Dems "aren't optimistic" about the next election, or that they don't have a "platform". The thing about Republican propaganda is that alot of Dems fall for it, too.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 03:10 AM
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8. Dems' Position Becomes Weaker Every ** Appoints Another Justice
Our position is now almost terminal, as ** most likely has a Supreme Court that will ratify anything he wants to do to stay in power.
The Senate has just confirmed a Justice who believes that the President can do no wrong.
What will this Court do when Bush** does his own version of the "Saturday Night Massacre", fires Fitzgerald and Earle, and issues pardons all around?

It all comes down to Fitzgerald and Earle. They will bring the Republicans down if they are allowed to complete their investigations.
The Republicans cannot allow that. They must remain above the law at all costs (to us, to the country, to the world).
"Law? What do I care about the law? H'ain't I got the power?"

Their control of the vote counting in Ohio and Florida and so many other states means that anything that is not a complete landslide can be flipped their way
(and in Ohio we even saw landslide 2-1 margins getting flipped last November). In addtion, we still have the gerrymander working against us in the House.
A fair court would have provided a means to right these wrongs, but we do not have fair courts, we have the ones that ** appointed.

Their control of the media is what prevents us from capitalizing on all the Republican scandals, just as it did in 2002 and 2004.
The media will continue to function largely as an appendage of the RNC.

We mostly have to hope that people in states where votes still count figure it out on their own, because we really don't have any way to reach most of them.



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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 03:17 AM
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10. Gosh, some senators are as worried about Dem leadership as we are.
WELL, GET OFF YOUR ASSES FELLAS.
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farmboxer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 03:46 AM
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11. Sometimes I wonder if they "want" to win.
Defeatist attitude they have. but why not, at least, give an effort?! I don't know whether to be angry or depressed!
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 04:08 AM
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12. I think this is unmitigated horseshit
I don't believe for one second there's a Dem anywhere involved in this story, no matter what the NY Times says. This story was planted, intended to demoralize, and create lower expectations amongst the masses. I wonder which nitwit will have their name on the byline?

"Senior Democrats" my ass. How about someone plant this one? "Senior White House officials divulged to us today there is growing concern about President Bush's penchant for playing Halo 2 instead of attending high level staff meetings. We at the DU Tribune have been told that during one such session Bush threatened to fire the entire White House kitchen staff when he was informed that they had no Sour Orange Pixy Sticks on hand. In a possibly related story we have learned that Haliburton has unexpectedly offered a buyout bid to the Willy Wonka Candy Corp., the makers of Pixy Sticks."
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Dunvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 07:29 AM
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14. Props, tkmorris.
Agreed. And well said.
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 07:51 AM
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15. There are two reasons for this...
the Democrats are putting forth some really conservative Democratic candidates...still playing the .."if we run a DINO ....we will win"...strategy

They didn't pounce hard enough on the administration ...this moderation crap is making people think that there aren't two parties...only one big collusive mess.
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