Only credible 2008 candidate in 2008...IMO

[elizm]

...This 'show on the road' will sell!

On the President's Warrantless Wiretapping Program
By Senator Russ Feingold
t r u t h o u t | Statement

Tuesday 07 February 2006

As prepared for delivery from the Senate floor.
Mr. President, last week the President of the United States gave his State of the Union address, where he spoke of America's leadership in the world, and called on all of us to "lead this world toward freedom." Again and again, he invoked the principle of freedom, and how it can transform nations, and empower people around the world.

But, almost in the same breath, the President openly acknowledged that he has ordered the government to spy on Americans, on American soil, without the warrants required by law.

The President issued a call to spread freedom throughout the world, and then he admitted that he has deprived Americans of one of their most basic freedoms under the Fourth Amendment - to be free from unjustified government intrusion......

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/020806A.shtml

[Crazy Dave]

1. Edwards/Clark

[BlueManDude]

2. Gore/Hart (yes Gary Hart)

[elizm]

4. I like Gore too....

...but is he going to run? Gore/Feingold would be KILLER!

[0007]

6. I like that!

[OneBlueSky]

33. never happen, but I love the idea . . . Gore is certainly the best . . .

possible candidate -- especially if he can maintain his freedom to tell the truth by refusing corporate money . . . after all, he's not going to get all that much anyhow . . .

I can think of any number of potential running mates . . . Feingold, Hart, Moyers, RFK Jr., Conyers, Obama (?), etc. . . who the VP candidate is is far less important than getting Gore to pursue the nomination, and helping him get nominated, however . . . as a populist, non-corporate candidate committed to telling the American people the truth . . . people will flock to his campaign . . .

[Adelante]

3. Clark/Feingold

:)

[Totally Committed]

12. I would definitely support this ticket.

n/t

TC

[Lefty48197]

16. I'm going to support any Democratic ticket.

Although that sounds like a pretty good one. Feingold/Clark anybody?

[Adelante]

18. I would support any Dem ticket, for sure

Just dreaming :) Clark/Feingold

[Lefty48197]

21. Those are my top two favorites.

Kind of like Pizza and Beer. Doesn't matter which you start with. Everything's gonna be just fine.

[blm]

5. How many newsroom editting rooms does he control? Or voting machines?

.

[elizm]

8. None...and I am completely with you on that one...

...But one thing I KNOW will have to happen in 2008 is that we have to have a killer ticket that will be way ahead in the polls.... that will make it more difficult WHEN they cheat.

[blm]

9. You think the media will report polls honestly?

.

[elizm]

10. Right again...

...But John Zogby does polls and posts them on his website for all the world to see. We will just have to get the word out in every way we can.

[RadiDem]

7. As of right now, Russ is my choice too -nt-

[NoFederales]

11. Assuming voter fraud can be overcome, the prize is 2006--not 2008.

I wish, magically, the focus could be dialed into what is right in front of us. Election Fraud; People's Issues; the 2006 Elections--right....under...our.....noses. 2008 will not matter unless gains are made this year.

NoFederales

[elizm]

14. Overcoming fraud AND...

...Democrats growing some spin and willing to speak truth to power in the 2006 elections. I'm just not seeing too many Dems willing to do that yet.

[hopein08]

13. Feingold/Edwards or Edwards/Feingold for me!

[Lefty48197]

15. Russ is a pure liberal. He may have my primary vote locked up already

I sure would like to hear him defend the title of liberal against anybody from the right wing.

[mdelaguna2000]

17. Why not Murtha as v/p? Pres - who knows yet...

[pstans]

19. Come join the momentum

http://www.russforpresident.com

[Rowdyboy]

20. ANY Democratic candidate will be credible in 2008!

Feingold is good. So is Clark, Edwards, Kerry and Boxer. Warner, Bayh Clinton, Richardson and almost anyone else will be credible after 8 years of George Bush.

[WildEyedLiberal]

22. Yep

We have several gooduns to choose from.

[holdyourbreath]

23. why is it, again, that y'all snubbed the miracle that is Wes Clark?

a) never been a legislator
b) Generals have no business being presidents
c) he used to vote Republican
d) he initially said he'd be for a flag burning amendment
e) a bunch of corrupt b.s. artists from the Pentagon frowned upon him (and the endorsement of 55 ambassadors and Colin Powell isn't sufficient to counter that, even though John McCain said that "Clark's insights into the nature of alliance warfare deserve wide readership on both sides of the Atlantic" and Gen. Barry McCafferty called Wes "a national treasure," and even though he's a West Point valedictorian with 3 master's degrees and the former heads of annapolis and west point think he's the cat's meow, HE'S JUST NOT PRESIDENTIAL MATERIAL....even if our allies can't say enough good stuff about him (the man was knighted TWICE).)
f) leading a war without losing any American soldiers simply is not a relevant stat on a candidate's bio.
g)just because droves of swing voters said they could have ditched shrub for Wes it doesn't mean we're supposed to not cut off our noses just so we could have guaranteed we got Bush OUT.
h) the repubs could have somehow managed to put him down for taking 4 bullets in Vietnam and then continue to lead his men to safety. and they also could have said he's not a true patriot even though he opted to serve his life in the military despite having the examplary academic that could easily have landed hundreds of jobs for a million dollars a year.

yeah, what was I thinking????

[politicasista]

24. Not hating, but we need to focus on 2006

There are a lot of credible candidates for 2008 including Gore, Kerry, Edwards, Clark, Hillary and others. Let's focus on 2006 and taking back the media. Be aware that the GOP controls the media though.

[dolstein]

25. You've got to be kidding -- Feingold would lose 40 states

This time, when the Republcans start talking about the Democratic nominee being the most liberal member of the Senate -- more liberal than Ted Kennedy -- they won't be exaggerating.

Sure, the thought of Feingold being the party's nominee may inspire orgasms among left-wing Democrats. And plenty of other Democrats will end up voting for Feingold simply because they detest the Republican nominee. But I just don't see how Feingold would come anywhere close to getting 50% of the popular vote, and he'll get completely blown out in the South.

How long is it going to take left-wingers to realize that the Democrats aren't going to be able to take back the White House as long as they continue to hand the South to the Republicans on a silver platter? If all the Republicans have to do is worry about winning Ohio and Florida, the games already over.

[Vidar]

30. Look at how well choosing Lieberman worked for Gore>

[Douglas Carpenter]

26. Russ is the most centrist/mainstream of any likely candidate

although he is firmly to the right of the center of mainstream opinion on most issues -- he is at least closest to the center

Borrowed from:
LynnTheDem
a super-majority of Americans are liberal in all but name
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20051107/alterman
Public opinion polls show that the majority of Americans embrace liberal rather than conservative positions...
http://www.poppolitics.com/articles/2002-04-16-liberal.shtml
The vast majority of Americans are looking for more social support, not less...
http://www.prospect.org/print/V12/7/borosage-r.html

http://people.umass.edu/mmorgan/commstudy.html

Some more polls:

http://www.democracycorps.com/reports/analyses/Democracy_Corps_May_2005_Graphs.pdf

http://www.democrats.com/bush-impeachment-poll-2

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/living/US/healthcare031020_poll.html

http://www.cdi.org/polling/5-foreign-aid.cfm

borrowed from bvar22:


recent polls by the Pew Research Group, the Opinion Research Corporation, the Wall Street Journal, and CBS News

1. 65 percent say the government should guarantee health insurance for everyone -- even if it means raising taxes.

2. 86 percent favor raising the minimum wage (including 79 percent of self-described "social conservatives").

3. 60 percent favor repealing either all of Bush's tax cuts or at least those cuts that went to the rich.

4. 66 percent would reduce the deficit not by cutting domestic spending but by reducing Pentagon spending or raising taxes.

5. 77 percent believe the country should do "whatever it takes" to protect the environment.

6. 87 percent think big oil corporations are gouging consumers, and 80 percent (including 76 percent of Republicans) would support a windfall profits tax on the oil giants if the revenues went for more research on alternative fuels.

7. 69 percent agree that corporate off shoring of jobs is bad for the U.S. economy (78 percent of "disaffected" voters think this), and only 22% believe off shoring is good because "it keeps costs down."

8. 69 percent believe America is on the wrong track, with only 26 percent saying it's headed in the right direction

[dolstein]

27. If, by centrist/mainstream, you really mean liberal, you'd be right

Russ Feingold is likely to be the most liberal candidate for the nomination, for the simply reason that he's more liberal than any other Democratic senator or governor.

[Douglas Carpenter]

31. I mean that issue by issue he is closest to the center of what |Americans

by vast-overwhelming majorities support; not necessarily the title of "liberal" but actual positions on real issues he is still somewhat to the right of most Americans but still definitely closest to the center

borrowed from bvar 22:

recent polls by the Pew Research Group, the Opinion Research Corporation, the Wall Street Journal, and CBS News

1. 65 percent say the government should guarantee health insurance for everyone -- even if it means raising taxes.

2. 86 percent favor raising the minimum wage (including 79 percent of self-described "social conservatives").

3. 60 percent favor repealing either all of Bush's tax cuts or at least those cuts that went to the rich.

4. 66 percent would reduce the deficit not by cutting domestic spending but by reducing Pentagon spending or raising taxes.

5. 77 percent believe the country should do "whatever it takes" to protect the environment.

6. 87 percent think big oil corporations are gouging consumers, and 80 percent (including 76 percent of Republicans) would support a windfall profits tax on the oil giants if the revenues went for more research on alternative fuels.

7. 69 percent agree that corporate off shoring of jobs is bad for the U.S. economy (78 percent of "disaffected" voters think this), and only 22% believe off shoring is good because "it keeps costs down."

8. 69 percent believe America is on the wrong track, with only 26 percent saying it's headed in the right direction


Borrowed from:
LynnTheDem

a super-majority of Americans are liberal in all but name
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20051107/alterman
Public opinion polls show that the majority of Americans embrace liberal rather than conservative positions...
http://www.poppolitics.com/articles/2002-04-16-liberal.shtml
The vast majority of Americans are looking for more social support, not less...
http://www.prospect.org/print/V12/7/borosage-r.html

http://people.umass.edu/mmorgan/commstudy.html

Some more polls:

http://www.democracycorps.com/reports/analyses/Democracy_Corps_May_2005_Graphs.pdf

http://www.democrats.com/bush-impeachment-poll-2

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/living/US/healthcare031020_poll.html

http://www.cdi.org/polling/5-foreign-aid.cfm

[LincolnMcGrath]

28. RUSS RUSS RUSS!

[zulchzulu]

29. Kerry first for me...but Russ is second on my list

I've met Russ and he indeed is worthy of being President. He truly understands America.

[MH1]

32. Kerry first for me, too...haven't decided who would be next choice,

but Feingold definitely has some positives.

(The truth - I'll vote for whoever wins the primary. Unless there's a major change in the primary schedule, I won't get much say anyway.)

[BlueIris]

34. I dropped Russ after his Roberts support.

But I could see how some could still consider him either electable or worth electing after that. Which he isn't, even if I were nutty enough to believe that a pro-Roberts vote could be confused with "credibility," or if I confused electability with credibility generally. Good luck with your plans, though.