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Sun Feb-01-04 12:00 PM
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Do we know who was responsible for the Osama ad yet? |
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Or will we wait until tomorrow to find out who put there own selfish agenda ahead of our national interests?
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Sun Feb-01-04 12:02 PM
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Sun Feb-01-04 12:17 PM
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a group called "Americans for Jobs, Health Care and Progressive Values" was responsible for it. I thought that former aides of both Gep and Kerry were associated with it.
Below is an excerpt from a Trippi email:
An Open Letter to All Democratic Presidential Campaign Managers:
Dec. 16, 2003
Last week, a group called "Americans for Jobs, Health Care and Progressive Values" began airing a television ad in New Hampshire and South Carolina attacking Howard Dean's commitment to defending America. The group is headed by a Democratic contributor, and the press secretary is a former aide to one of Dr. Deanâ?Ts rivals. Using the image of Osama bin Laden, it is the kind of fearmongering attack weâ?Tve come to expect from Republicans and panders to the worst in voters. I'm writing to call on each one of you to condemn this despicable ad and demand it be pulled from the airwaves.
(snip)
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Sun Feb-01-04 12:29 PM
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21. Well, Gep's gone; if it's Kerry: |
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Sun Feb-01-04 12:03 PM
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2. A group associated with Gephardt |
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I believe. But apparently they did it without his knowledge.
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Sun Feb-01-04 12:06 PM
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Please give a brief description of the ad, someone, anyone...
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Sun Feb-01-04 12:04 PM
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3. Yep, today is the day the truth is supposed to come out! |
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When we will hear about it is yet another thing...But like you, I've been waiting for this.
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Sun Feb-01-04 12:07 PM
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7. I wonder if being today is Sunday we'll have to wait until tomorrow? |
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Sun Feb-01-04 12:09 PM
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12. Who knows? I thought we'd find out today. |
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But I'll bet the people responsible for the ad are doing everything in their power at this point to avoid detection--EVERYTHING.
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Sun Feb-01-04 12:16 PM
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Sun Feb-01-04 12:05 PM
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Sun Feb-01-04 12:06 PM
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6. That's what I've been saying!!! n/t |
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Sun Feb-01-04 12:13 PM
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14. It was an add that suggested Dean was weak on national security because |
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he was against the war in Iraq.
They used Osama's image to :scared: voters into submission. It was dirty b/c Dean could have had to face * with a record of Dems calling him weak on defense...it was a total crock, and I won't vote for anyone who took part in it.
I am and always have been ABB, but I could not bring myself to vote for anyone that would put there own selfish political interests before the interests of the country.
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Sun Feb-01-04 12:27 PM
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I just watched it. That was indefensible. I anxiously await confirmation of which campaign put up that garbage.
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Sun Feb-01-04 12:10 PM
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13. You used to be able to view it online |
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but the cowards have taken their whole damn site down.
www.progressivevalues.com
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Sun Feb-01-04 12:14 PM
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15. See it before it's gone |
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Sun Feb-01-04 12:18 PM
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19. Pathetic M**ther F**k**s... |
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Sun Feb-01-04 12:07 PM
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8. I assume this is the ad . . . |
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aired in Iowa that said Dean was weak on defense??
Why will we know today?
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Sun Feb-01-04 12:07 PM
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Sun Feb-01-04 12:08 PM
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10. Tomorrow is the deadline |
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For 527's year-end filings. We'll know shortly.
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Sun Feb-01-04 12:09 PM
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11. According to Trippi today, no. |
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That's what he said on CNN earlier. Something like "we still don't know who" put that ad up.
Wonder if it was the same group that was doing the robo-calling in NH late at night, claiming to be from Dean's campaign?
Like many said after 9*11: find out who benefits, and you may find who's responsible.
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Sun Feb-01-04 12:15 PM
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16. Who ever it was has lost my vote. I hope it was Gep... |
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makes my decision easier that way ;)
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Sun Feb-01-04 12:53 PM
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22. I've been waiting to find this out for a while now... |
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It will be very interesting to find out who financed and made donations to "Americans for Jobs, Healthcare, and Progressive Values", because it will be payback time.
I have a hard time believing that most of the donors wouldn't have known what the money would be used for, so if for example some labor unions made donations to this group, those unions should be targeted for a replacement of their "old guard" leadership with some real progressives.
If any companies made donations, it's boycott time.
We already know that one of the people behind this group was Ed Feighan, former Ohio congressman. He was the machine-anointed candidate for Cleveland, Ohio mayor in 1977 and lost the primary to the insurgent candidate, Dennis Kucinich, much to the chagrin of the corrupt party machine! He lost his House seat as a result of the House check kiting scandal of the early 1990s. He is also best known for being the original sponsor of the Brady Bill in the House. He's exactly the sort of person the Democratic Party needs to be rid of, but his political career is probably already over because of the check kiting scandal. In any case this should be the final blow to his political career, and if he is not persona non grata in the Democratic Party after this, he should be.
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