Look Who's Supporting Joe Lieberman

[dolstein]

http://www.joe2006.com/LaborPoliticalLeadersLineUptoEndorseLieberman.htm

Labor, Political Leaders Line Up to Endorse Lieberman

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On Wednesday, February 22nd, at an event in New Haven, Lieberman was endorsed by several of the state’s most influential female political leaders including, Democratic State Party Chairwoman Nancy DiNardo, Congresswoman Rosa DeLauro, state Comptroller Nancy Wyman, state Treasurer Denise Nappier, Secretary of the State Susan Bysiewicz, and Fourth Congressional District Democratic candidate Diane Farrell.

On Thursday, February 23rd, Lieberman stood with many of the state’ union leaders and top elected officials as they endorsed his campaign at a rally at the Carpenter’s Union Hall in Hartford. Lieberman received endorsements from the following unions: Carpenters, Bricklayers, Letter Carriers, American Postal Workers, Communications Workers of America, Electricians Local 90, Local 34 and 35 of the HERE Alliance, Teamsters Local 1150, and the International Brotherhood of Firefighters.

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At Thursday’s event, Lieberman also collected endorsements from his colleague in the Senate, Christopher J. Dodd, First District Congressman John Larson, Lieutenant Governor Kevin Sullivan, Attorney General Richard Blumenthal, state Senate President Pro Tempore Donald Williams and Speaker of the House Jim Amann.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=post&forum=132

Of course, left-wing bloggers like Kos blame Lieberman for "forcing" these Democrats to support him, as though the thought that any Democrat would voluntarily support Lieberman is entirely out of the question. Of course, this is a classic scapegoating tactic.

[BillZBubb]

1. This is a prime example of why Democrats will always lose.

Lieberman continually hurts the party nationally. He's like a bleeding ulcer. But, I guess locally, he's an asset.

It's pretty sad that Democrats anywhere would endorse a guy who cheerleads for the Iraq fiasco and helped enable Bush to put every right wing fanatic he wanted on the Federal bench. Lieberman is a loser.

[dolstein]

3. Personally, I think it's good to have at least one Dem who isn't squeamish

when it comes to talking about relgious faith or using military force.

If John Kerry were able to talk credibly about religious faith and weren't seen as weak and indecisive on Iraq, he's be president today.

[BootinUp]

5. I'd have to give that exchange to dolstein. n/t

[LincolnMcGrath]

10. Interesting.

You support the right wing talker's version of the election?

Do you support what the right wingers say about Wes?

[BootinUp]

18. thats all its about to you? LW vs RW

If anything thats why we have apathy (and low turnouts), the average American just gets turned off. They can't sort through all the partisan nonsense to believe in anything.

I don't mind a good debate, but this gets to be such a bore. cya.

[LincolnMcGrath]

19. Priceless!

:yourock:

[BootinUp]

20. Seriously though

You don't think thats the way the majority saw Kerry? Aww forget it. waste of time.

[LincolnMcGrath]

22. I can't argue that it was a piss poor campaign.

On the other hand 59 million people didn't see him that way. Whenever my GOP friends tell me "more people voted for * than any President in history", I remind them more people voted for his opponent then anytime in history.

And if you believe a majority of voters erroneously saw him that way, why would you support a DU poster who really views him that way? :shrug:

[Telly Savalas]

39. Whereas a compelling charismatic figure like Lieberman

would inspire the apathetic not just to vote, but to get actively involved in the political process?

[BootinUp]

44. But you are changing the subject...

I was talking about McGrath's debating tactics. You are jumping to conclusions becuase I posted on this thread and didn't call Lieberman a Vichy Democrat or some such rebel yell I suppose?

I never favored him as a candidate for VP or Pres. I agree that he is not a charismatic politician. Still he is popular with his constituency I guess.

I tend to defend the centrists Democrats because I don't buy into the spine meme that pervades the liberal blogosphere and I would like to see this party back in power some day.

[Jim Sagle]

15. Or if votes were actually counted fairly.

[Ken Burch]

16. Kerry didn't lose for being "weak" on Iraq

(In fact, he forbade the party from adopting an antiwar position on that war even though the country was already turning against it.)
Kerry lost because he sounded completely incoherent on all major issues. If he'd run as the man he was in'71, Kerry would've cleaned Dubya's clock at the polls.

And all these endorsements prove is that incumbent Congressmembers seeking reelection usually won't buck the most powerful person in their state's party.

So can the smugness, dolstein.

[eridani]

27. Thanks for apologizing for imperialism and genocide.

Since WW II, US military force hasn't been good for anything except forcing corporate domination on American citizens and the rest of the world. Just another Outward Bound programs with piles of burned and mangled corpses. Get a clue about 21st century reality. Domination is expensive, and Fucking Shit Up is cheap. The Brits and the Soviets had to give up imperialism because it was too expensive. So will we, hopefully before we utterly destroy ourselves internally.

[Ken Burch]

30. And as to speaking about religious faith

What Democrats need to do is find a way to speak for a progressive spiritual view, rather than simply echo religious right cant as Lieberman does.

I strongly recommend to everyone "The Left Hand of God" Michael Lerner's new book on the subject.

[LWolf]

33. I agree with the faith part,

although I would hope that any Democrat who speaks about faith will speak in general support of all faiths without crossing the line of separation. This can be done.

I don't believe a Democrat has to advocate the use of military force or be "weak or indecisive." I think a Democrate can advocate the use of military force for defense only, as a last result, credibly. I think Democrats can be strong and decisive for diplomacy, and for peace.

[leesa]

35. Weak and indecisive??? to invade and murder people who didn't do anything

to any body?? SICK.

[adigal]

43. You have bought the MSM line

John Kerry is the type of Catholic who actually goes to Church on Holy Days. He did talk about his religion, spoke of when he was an altar boy and his faith today. The media buried it, and focused on the bishops who did not want to give him Communion because he was pro-choice.

Bush doesn't even go to Church every week, but they wrote the script that he is a good Christian man, so the MSM kept playing that same tune.

[unblock]

4. you know, i kind of prefer connecticut republicans to lieberman

i'd put lowell weicker to the left of lieberman.

kinda like my one republican vote ever, in massachusetts, weld(r-almost liberal) vs. silber (d-almost neo-nazi).

and i still lose sleep over that one. weld himself was fairly decent certainly better than silber would have been, but of course, republicans appoint republicans....

[rpannier]

2. And look who's not...me

Although he doesn't care. As long as his french kiss with scrub is implanted in my mind...I will support someone else who is progressive.

[cornermouse]

6. He's lucky that I don't live in his district.

Because there's no way on the planet that I would ever vote for that smarmy toad.

[LincolnMcGrath]

7. I can feel the Joementum from here brother!

I wonder if these same folks endorsed his Presidential bid? Anyone know the score on that?

For Joe's sake I hope more than 6,703 voters come out to support him as Senator.

[TankLV]

29. They're the same ones who thought McCaine heading a DEMOCRATIC

ticket was a good thing!

Go figure...

I'm will always be a proud member of the DEMOCRATIC wing of the Democratic Party, not a bush* ass kisser and democrat disser!

LIEberman dissed other democrats in one of his many pissy fits when they all didn't have their heads shoved up bunkerboy's ass as far a his was.

I will NEVER forgive him for that.

Once a repuke, always a repuke.

He can go to his vision of hell.

[Cassandra]

8. Another perspective

http://www.mydd.com/story/2006/2/27/0383/19288

"One of Lieberman's consistent patterns is to put Democrats in positions where they have to support him at their own political expense. That's clearly what's happening here. Shays and Lieberman are identical on the war, and this means that Farrell can't made her candidacy about the war because she has acknowledged that principled disagreement on the war isn't really a voting issue. Shays is one of the most vulnerable Republicans in Congress; the 2nd and 4th districts in CT have moderate Republicans who could be headed for the dustbin of history, if Democrats can convince Connecticut voters that moderate Republicans lead to extreme consequences.
Lieberman makes this case very hard, because he is forcing Democrats running in these districts to explicitly disavow this argument. It's really a nasty self-serving pattern of putting himself before others in nearly all cases. Lieberman does this to Senators, and isn't well-liked in the Senate, but this is a clear example where Lieberman at the top of the ticket is jeopardizing two pick-ups in the House for Dems.
So next time I hear that we are 'wasting' resources by going after a Democrat like Joe Lieberman, I'm going to point to this. Lieberman's presence in the race means we are less likely to take the House back because he gives cover to moderate Republicans in his own backyard. Of course, come August, this will be an academic discussion because Ned Lamont will be our nominee, and then Farrell can run against the war explicitly and differentiate herself from Shays."

[dolstein]

14. So is Lieberman some nefarious puppet master?

Is he merely pulling the strings of all these hapless Democratic officials and union leaders? Seriously, don't you find it just a little bit naseuating when liberal bloggers go out of their way to deny free will on the part of Democrats who support Joe Lieberman? This is a classic scapegoating tactic.

[Cassandra]

17. Personally...

I prefer a candidate who's a bit more squeamish about using military force, particularly when it's been used so incompetently.
If Lieberman has any influence in the state regarding money for campaigns or conections for contributions, that might put a crimp in that free will.

[Billy Burnett]

9. The reichwingnut Miamicuban exiles love Joementum

In return for his love of the CANF (and their campaign $$) and his wanting Elian to remain kindapped by the drunken uncle's family.

[Ken Burch]

13. But he's a conservative, "God fearing" drunken uncle

And by gadfry, THAT'S what matters.

[BattyDem]

11. Is anyone challenging him or are Connecticut Dems left without a choice?

:shrug:

[CTyankee]

36. Yes, his challenger is Ned Lamont

a progressive Dem from Greenwich (of all places). Ned's grandfather was the socialist, Corliss Lamont. They are a moneyed family but have their own gadfly lefties. Ned and his wife Annie have been strong supporters of Planned Parenthood of CT.

I have volunteered for NEd's campaign. I think it is very important to work our hearts out for the progressive in the primary to get our message out to the public and to Joe. I want JOe to feel damn uncomfortable, even with his damn endorsements. He is in his own little world if he doesn't realize that there is a strong component in CT to the left of him.

[Larkspur]

12. Circling the wagons is what the ossified CT Dem Establishment does well

This was totally expected. Lamont was not surprised.

But the part you edited out, the part where John Olsen of CT AFL-CIO didn't attend this Lieber-bush love fest, shows that there is some institutional dissent against Lieberman.

And did you see my published LTTE in the Norwich Bulletin today? I posted it in the CT forum http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=143x2395

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

21. Scapegoating...

[LincolnMcGrath]

23. Bush is feeling the Joementum for sure.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

25. Way too damn happy.

[mdmc]

24. Go Joementum !

I know that I am often seen as a radical, left wing wacko...but I must confess to having a soft spot for Joementum. God, I disliked him during impeachment, but during the 2004 primary , I remember cspan following him around a boat show. All the folks that kept coming up to him in support would say, "All those other Democrats are weird." Joe would ask for their support, and they would say, "Oh I support Bush." or "I'm a republican." He handled the whole thing with civility...

[Telly Savalas]

40. I'm sure he's a great guy to go catch a baseball game with...

but I really wish he'd quit going on those Sunday morning talk shows promoting the White House's general approach to foreign policy.

[mdmc]

41. he still whines about the west wing every so often

:kick:

[Armstead]

26. Never underestimate the power of pork

Porkbarrell politics that is.

If Joe can bring home the bacon, that's all that matters to many people.

[TankLV]

28. Fuck LIEberman and all the repuke supporting whores who support him.

They are a POX on this country and a prime example of WHAT IS WRONG WITH OUR COUNTRY!

FUCK ALL THE "VICHY" DEMS!

[lojasmo]

31. Dolstein obviously hasn't been involved in the endorsement process

They are endorsing because he is the electable candidate.

70% of republicans in his state currently endorse Lieberman too....because he acts and votes like a goddamned republican.

Sure glad I am not faced with the prospect of voting for him.

[RogueTrooper]

32. Kos is not a left wing blogger

or, at least, not in the pejorative sense you are using the term, dolstein. His politics are pretty moderate ( as befits somebody who is ex-military and a former Reagan Republican ).

Personally, I think Lieberman is on over promoted fool with whom people get a little too excised about. There are, frankly, more important matters that should be grabbing the attention of the active left than the Senator from Connecticut. However infuriating his clumsy attempts at bipartisanship, and the ease in which the Republicans play him the fool infuriate people.

Gore should have never picked him as his running mate. He was never of that quality.

[mmonk]

34. Who cares? I don't care if every democrat in the US

supports him, I do not, and consider him a political enemy. Flame away but I can't support pre-emptive war nor someone who attacks fellow democrats more than attacking the opposition.

[leesa]

37. Must be after some dirty money, all I can think of...why support GOP Joe?

[lojasmo]

38. Hey look! Rep Chris Shays (R) endorses Lieberman! Fantastic

That's bonafide democratic credentials for you! :eyes:

[adigal]

42. Does it matter who endorses him??

The ones who vote in primaries are the most committed Democrats, and many of them are disgusted with Lieberman. So really - who cares?? The Firefighters Unions usually endorse Dems and many of the racist, right wing firefighters I know voted for Bush.