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Fri Mar-03-06 12:43 PM
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Missouri Lege wants to make "Christianity" the majority religion |
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Edited on Fri Mar-03-06 12:44 PM by NoFederales
<Missouri bill to name :Christianity the state's official "majority" religion.>
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Missouri legislators in Jefferson City considered a bill that would name Christianity the state's official "majority" religion.
House Concurrent Resolution 13 has is pending in the state legislature.
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The resolution would recognize "a Christian god," and it would not protect minority religions, but "protect the majority's right to express their religious beliefs.
The resolution also recognizes that, "a greater power exists," and only Christianity receives what the resolution calls, "justified recognition."
This is what Missouri has to offer its citizens? How many goddamned real problems are out there—and we get this shit?
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Fri Mar-03-06 12:44 PM
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1. That's fine until Islam is the majority religion |
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then what's he gonna do? In Allah We Trust, you know.
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Fri Mar-03-06 12:44 PM
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2. Can we throw them out of the Union for crap like this? |
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Fri Mar-03-06 12:44 PM
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3. The first amendment needs to be permanently tattooed to their foreheads |
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Fri Mar-03-06 12:45 PM
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Looks like they're working hard to turn out the religio wacko voters.
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Fri Mar-03-06 12:46 PM
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5. States have majority religions? |
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Edited on Fri Mar-03-06 12:46 PM by valerief
What in heavens for?
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Fri Mar-03-06 12:47 PM
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(no pun intended) why the fuck do my fellow christians need this? I don't feel threatened by other beliefs, and I DEFINATELY don't need to opress other religions to make myself feel right.
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Fri Mar-03-06 12:49 PM
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7. Makes sense because John Ashcroft believes Missouri is the |
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Edited on Fri Mar-03-06 12:53 PM by izzybeans
historical site of the Garden of Eden. It's the birthplace of the universe...Missouri. :sarcasm:
Oh and on edit " Let the Eagle soar like she's never soared before. Let the Eagle soar. Yeah <jazz hands>"
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Fri Mar-03-06 12:52 PM
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8. Since majority rules, and all that... |
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Pssst, fundies, hope you enjoy your Catholic endocrination... The largest denomination in the US: Catholic # of = 71,796,719 % of US pop = 24.5% % growth = +11% http://www.adherents.com/rel_USA.html#families
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Fri Mar-03-06 12:53 PM
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9. Anyone can say "I am a Christian". |
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How they define what a Christian does is the issue.
And they'd better have their ducks lined up big-time.
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Fri Mar-03-06 12:54 PM
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10. And here I was thinking that Georgia had a lock on assholes: |
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The Republican controlled legislature, in last year's term, already tackled that oh so tough part and made sweet tea the official drink of the state. I really didn't think they could follow it up, but they're always out to prove me wrong:
Red Clay Would Be Official State Dirt Under Lawmaker's Bill: Rep. Bobby Franklin, R-Marietta, has introduced a bill designating Georgia red clay as the official state dirt. It is HB 1443.
Franklin said it was prompted by criticism he got from a constituent for his recent vote against the bill designating the Southern Appalachian brook trout the official state cold water fish. “It got me to thinking these things are important to some people,” he said. Franklin, who was raised in Alabama and had heard about Georgia red clay all his life, said he got to thinking what still hadn’t been designated an official state symbol and hit upon the dirt idea.
“It’s definitely not a joke,” he said. Unfortunately, the same cannot be said about Franklin's service to his constituents.
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Fri Mar-03-06 01:10 PM
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15. I wish the MO legislature had spent its time on this |
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it would be time better spent, I think.
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Fri Mar-03-06 12:59 PM
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establishes a state religion. lets see if the SCOTUS does the right thing and over turns it.
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Fri Mar-03-06 01:01 PM
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Edited on Fri Mar-03-06 01:05 PM by sabbat hunter
do you have a link so i can post this elsewhere. i went to the missouri legislature site and there is no sign of that bill/resolution.
thanks
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Fri Mar-03-06 07:19 PM
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23. Unable to edit--time expired or some such--just got home and find that |
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my link didn't take; used the wrong symbols.
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Fri Mar-03-06 01:04 PM
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13. Not a bill but a resolution. Link to text here |
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From the website of the Missouri State House: http://www.house.mo.gov/bills061/biltxt/intro/HCR0013I.htmThis is perfectly constitutional, which makes the move even more repugnant, as it sets official policy in how laws will be crafted, implemented, enforced and interpreted.
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Fri Mar-03-06 01:13 PM
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that discriminates either in favor of Christianity or against another faith will be tested before the SCOTUS, won't it?
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Fri Mar-03-06 01:20 PM
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Again, this is not a law, it is a resolution. And any law crafted with this in mind will still not be allowed to cross any constitutional boundaries. But once state courts start interpreting laws through the resolution, and once new laws are crafted, implemented and enforced in light of the resolution, those boundaries will start to drift. And not in a direction favorable to atheists, Wiccans, Jews, Muslims, etc.
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Fri Mar-03-06 01:08 PM
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there is no God but God
That means there is only one God
No "Christian God" different from a "Jewish God" from a "Hindu God" from a "Pagan Gods/Goddesses", etc. etc.
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Fri Mar-03-06 07:29 PM
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26. Yes. None of us have spoken to him/her/it personally. No one knows |
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what or who God really is.
And then, people who don't believe, will they be forced to attend church or be discriminated against? That worries me.
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Fri Mar-03-06 01:16 PM
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is a little deceptive.
here is the actual wording
SECOND REGULAR SESSION
House Concurrent Resolution No. 13
Whereas, our forefathers of this great nation of the United States recognized a Christian God and used the principles afforded to us by Him as the founding principles of our nation; and
Whereas, as citizens of this great nation, we the majority also wish to exercise our constitutional right to acknowledge our Creator and give thanks for the many gifts provided by Him; and
Whereas, as elected officials we should protect the majority's right to express their religious beliefs while showing respect for those who object; and
Whereas, we wish to continue the wisdom imparted in the Constitution of the United States of America by the founding fathers; and
Whereas, we as elected officials recognize that a Greater Power exists above and beyond the institutions of mankind:
Now, therefore, be it resolved by the members of the House of Representatives of the Ninety-third General Assembly, Second Regular Session, the Senate concurring therein, that we stand with the majority of our constituents and exercise the common sense that voluntary prayer in public schools and religious displays on public property are not a coalition of church and state, but rather the justified recognition of the positive role that Christianity has played in this great nation of ours, the United States of America.
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Fri Mar-03-06 01:23 PM
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19. Still an explicit endorsement of religion |
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And our founding fathers also believed that bloodletting was an effective treatment for balancing our unhealthy humors. Let's make that a pillar of the AMA, while we're at it.
I know that not all Christians are fundamentalist crazies, but I have seldom heard a non-Liberal Christian rise up to condemn such an offensive, misbegotten, and, frankly, blasphemous over-reaching of political power by a nominal Conservative.
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Fri Mar-03-06 02:53 PM
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it is unconstitutional in my opinion.
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Fri Mar-03-06 03:08 PM
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22. Hey, don't be like that! |
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I was trying to pick a fight, and there you go agreeing with me! :mad:
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Fri Mar-03-06 02:35 PM
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If that happened in Alabama, I'd organize a march on Goat Hill protesting that garbage.
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Fri Mar-03-06 07:20 PM
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25. Our goat heads are much stickier--painful, too |
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Fri Mar-03-06 07:20 PM
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24. I'm sure someone has said this already |
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But this is just plain unconstitutional. If the federal government can't do it, neither can the states.
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Fri Mar-03-06 09:23 PM
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they make 'white' the 'official majority race?'
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