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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:23 AM
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Whining over the Oscars is pathetic, so what have you done today to save
my rights as a woman? My state is up for an abortion ban (I live in Tn) but yet people are too worried about some damn Oscars that nobody will remember in sixty years. I could really care less about "Brokeback Mountain" and I don't give a damn if you think I'm a homophobic person because I'm not interested in seeing the movie about two gay men and in a post I stated I'm straight etc. and you all obviously missed the whole point of the thread which is anybody can relate to "Crash" etc. So please stop bitching about an awards program and worry about the "Patriot Act" and the dimise of Roe v Wade.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:25 AM
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1. I haven't referred to co-posters with profanities n/t
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:44 AM
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13. But you have called me things
You aren't innocent Erika like you're pretending. So what have you done today to help save women's rights and stop the "Patriot Act" illegal laws?
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:26 AM
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2. some of us can multi-task you know
really
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:45 AM
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15. The whole point is one movie not winning a damn award isn't more
important to bitch about all day long while tons of women's lives are at stake. And other people's too with the "Patriot Act." Whining about a fictional movie not winning is really pathetic. It's understandable the first night but geez. It's time to get back to reality.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:49 AM
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22. it's a silly argument
this is a big board and we talk about multiple topics. The awards were last night and hence a burst of threads about the results. Fer chrissakes just put these threads on ignore, they'll be over after a few days.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:50 AM
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24. Mean while the fundies aren't caring about the awards show and
doing their work and pushing legislation through a handful of states, including my own, to ban abortion and make it illegal. So while you continue to talk about an awards show you have a possibility of missing your chance to help.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:52 AM
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27. WHO said I didn't help???
I've sent a dozen letters to reps, and yes, TWO TODAY concerning the abortion crisis. OK???
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:28 AM
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3. Most people ask for help. They do not demand it as if they were owed.
Have I learned that the hard way myself...

BTW: I could care less about Brokeback Mountain or any of those flicks. Haven't seen any of them anyway.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:46 AM
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16. Uhm what??
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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:30 AM
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4. Everyones rights are at stake.
nt
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:31 AM
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5. How many continuations of your earlier flamewar are you going to start?
n/t
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:35 AM
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6. Sweetie, you gotta' let it go
The more you post, the more shit is going to get stirred up. It's really not worth the stress you're putting yourself through. Just chalk it up to a learning experience and be done with it. In this instance, ignore is definitely your friend, if only for a few days. :hug:
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:37 AM
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7. Keep it up. We can use you as the poster child
of why it's utterly insane that the government gives you more rights than it does us.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:40 AM
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9. Awww
So the movie you wanted to win didn't win and people aren't that in a big uproar about it so now you think the whole country is against you. LOL. You're so hilarious. It's an Oscars show that nobody will remember in sixty years but yet taking away Roe v Wade CAN effect many lives because if Roe v Wade is taken away and abortion made illegal which is a real possibility in my state and a handful of others many lives can be lost. But hey if you want to keep talking about a fictional movie go a head. I'm sure a woman's life is worthless to you anyways.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:44 AM
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12. Yeah, that's it. A woman's life is worthless to me.
And I really, really hate kids with red hair.

And don't bring a cat near me. I might kick it.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:47 AM
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17. Your attitude is really sad
You care more about a movie not winning an award and calling people name's, when you don't even know them, than helping to save someone else. Really selfish.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:50 AM
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23. That's right. I care more about movies than humans.
You nailed it.

Can you provide us an address where we may send you funds to help you continue your jihad?
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:53 AM
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28. So why are you doing nothing but bitching about a movie?
Edited on Tue Mar-07-06 12:53 AM by FreedomAngel82
And calling me name's because I could care less about seeing it because it doesn't intrest me? :eyes:
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:55 AM
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30. why are YOU assuming everyone does nothing but bitch about a movie?
PLEASE get a grip already
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:45 AM
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14. Is that why you called two women posters profane names?
Because we have so much worth to you?
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:48 AM
Response to Reply #14
18. You're missing her oh so subtle fag jabs
I'm a fag. Hence I must hate women.

You know the routine.

It's garden variety, 1950's, bible belt.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:49 AM
Response to Reply #18
20. Yuk
That's the story?
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:52 AM
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26. No Erika dear
The whole point is people are bitching and whining about a movie that didn't win an awards show like you wanted and an awards show nobody will remember in sixty years but yet abortion can possibly be illegal in a handful of states within the next few months (if not weeks) and many lives can be lost. So let's see: the lives of others or a fictional movie not winning an award? Which do you think is more important?
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:49 AM
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21. LOL oh brother
You care more about a damn awards show than what is going on in reality and a fictional movie based on a book. :eyes: How lame is that? Wake up to reality. And how do you know my religion?
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 03:16 AM
Response to Reply #18
60. Oh, so THAT'S why you chose to become gay...!
:sarcasm:

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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:48 AM
Response to Reply #14
19. Aww Erika is trying again to get some attention how cute
And in case you didn't read Erika I am a woman dear.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:51 AM
Response to Reply #19
25. Sorry, it was Maddie and Me that you called profane names
Who's looking for attention? Do you have a problem you need help with, seriously?
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:54 AM
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29. I'm tired of people bitching about a damn awards show while REAL
problems are happening here and now. IN case you missed it the fundies aren't caring about an awards show and pushing their legislation through a handful of states to make abortion illegal. So you wonder why democrats aren't in the majority?
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:55 AM
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31. We're talking about the profane names you called
me and Maddie.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:03 AM
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32. And you two accused me of all types of crap
Being a homophobe without knowing me and who I know and am friends with, you don't know my actions and personal deeds, etc. So you two made all these false accusations of me and you're surprised you were called a name or two?
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:07 AM
Response to Reply #32
33. Sorry the records don't support your assertation
Ask the DU administrators
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:13 AM
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34. Riiight so you can make slanderous and false accusations right?
Edited on Tue Mar-07-06 01:13 AM by FreedomAngel82
:eyes: Sorry you don't like dissenting views Erika but tough luck. Grow up.
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:31 AM
Response to Reply #33
43. Did you mean assertion?
Edited on Tue Mar-07-06 01:32 AM by LincolnMcGrath
The records are all still available, btw.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:33 AM
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46. yes, thanks
Edited on Tue Mar-07-06 01:34 AM by Erika
I had been working on a dissertation.
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:24 AM
Response to Reply #14
40. Why draw the line at profanity?
:shrug:
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:32 AM
Response to Reply #7
45. And as the poster child for the failures of...
No Child Left Behind.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:36 AM
Response to Reply #45
49. Gee sorry to disappoint you but I graduated high school back
in 2001 sweetie.
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:43 AM
Response to Reply #49
55. I see no reason for you to sink to her level right now.
BTW, She did have a very informative post today on the subject at hand. I think it was dead on, I give her much deserved kudos for it!

As for her continued back biting of you, I can not guess the reason. :shrug: Some folks can't let go, and I know you can. (Don't make a liar of me here dear! LOL)
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:38 AM
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8. HEAR HEAR, BRAVO BRAVO, someone needed to say it......
.....thank you :loveya: :toast: :bounce:
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:41 AM
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10. Today I did nothing to save your rights as a woman
However I did provide quality care to four profoundly disabled women, three of whom who were abandoned to our agency by their families who don't give a damn whether they live or die. The father of one actually said he thought his daughter would be better off dead as far as he was concerned.

Just because people weren't rioting for your rights doesn't mean they weren't doing anything of value.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:43 AM
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11. It's not just my rights in case you didn't read
A handful of states are trying to make abortion illegal and ruin a bunch of people's lives whether the woman herself or the doctor for doing the procedure with five years of jail time. Think about his life and his family and the effect that would have. What if a doctor just does abortions and this bill happens? He will be out of a job and what if his wife doesn't work and she can't find a job and he doesn't know anything else? What about them? What about a young teenage girl who gets pregnant from a rape and she tries to get rid of her baby but kills herself instead? What about the "Patriot Act" and all of it's illegal laws? I'm sure none of those matter either huh? Just a fictional movie that didn't win a damn award.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:14 AM
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35. freedomangel82, you are a TROUBLEMAKER to the Nth degree
Edited on Tue Mar-07-06 01:20 AM by themartyred
I cannot believe after all the crap that went on last night, where you were sadly seen causing many people to feel rather attacked by you, because you do not know how to tackle an argument without DIRECT name calling (instead of saying "you're acting childish", you say things like, "you are such a whiny baby loser!"), which is where one would call someone an a**ho*e and other tawdry names like you did last night to maddy and erika. You have destroyed your name on DU with your posts of intolerance and being forthright in your posts.

For those two ladies who she directly called names, just so you know, her original name calling started well before that, and I think that's a sad reoccuring theme for her, and she is extremely immature acting, and I wish she'd show a professor her posts so they could advise her.

Here's her first unwarranted attack, where she is talking to me about my post RIGHT after the announcement, saying I felt Brokeback Mountain was robbed, basically, and I thought it was part of a campaign right at the end to push another movie over it (funny enough, a lady on CNN email from Australia said the same thing I did!) ------

FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Mon Mar-06-06 12:34 AM
Response to Reply #33
64. GIVE ME A BREAK!!!
You're a sore loser and a whiney ass! "Crash" only got ONE AWARD where as "Brokeback Mountain" got a SHIT LOAD of awards! More people can relate to "Crash" than they can BBM. What was in "Crash" is UNIVERERSAL and happens to all sorts of people EVERYWHERE. Stop being a sore loser!
------



I'm shocked DU hasn't written her about the negative taste she's placed in everyone's mouth from last night, as I made a post to everyone for my original post that sounded so bitter, she, however, has made no attempt to let things go as showcased by yet ANOTHER post that has veritably NOTHING to do with her abortion rights taken away, and instead focus her vitriol feelings about Brokeback Mountain and anyone who thinks it deserved the award.

Very Sad.


www.cafepress.com/abortionbattle
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:16 AM
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36. ps -
I just added her to my ignore list, and I request her to not write me ever! Please quit poisoning the community here on DU "freedomangel82" because you appear like a Christian conspirator from the Republican Party more so, than a liberal Christian from our party, because of the arguments you keep starting in thread after thread (how many is that now, 4?)
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:20 AM
Response to Reply #35
37. But everyone is allowed to dump on me right?
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:22 AM
Response to Reply #37
39. A lesson for you in life
When you initiate an attack, think first.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:37 AM
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51. Take your own advice Erika
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:21 AM
Response to Reply #35
38. It is sad
but I do not know how to help her. We should not have to put up vith her vitriol. I hope she goes to someone who can and will help her.
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:28 AM
Response to Reply #38
41. I guess you missed the tag-team bloodbath last night...
:eyes:
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:37 AM
Response to Reply #38
50. IGNORE is our friend, Erika
yes indeed
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:44 AM
Response to Reply #50
57. Agreed Skittles. Thanks,
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:38 AM
Response to Reply #38
53. Good gravy, Not this shit again!
:eyes:
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:50 AM
Response to Reply #53
58. like a friggin' rash that keeps flaring up
DAMN!
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:31 AM
Response to Reply #35
42. Sorry to bust your bubble but
The Magistrate sent me a nice PM. And gee, I never once said anything rude or disrespectful of gay people have I? Nope. I've never once bashed a gay person. All I've said is I'm not interested in seeing a movie dealing with two gay men. Just like I don't care about movies about war and violence and other cowboy movies. They don't interest me! And I think it's really sad how DU doesn't seem to like dissenting views. Sad. So if I disagree with the majority I get called all sorts of name's and accused of false accusations. Sad really. I'm very disappointed.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:33 AM
Response to Reply #11
47. In case you haven't read the dozens of posts I've made on the subject
I happen to care a great deal about the abortion rights issue. However I am not able to be out there fighting about it every. single. day.

And I don't need people like you attacking me because I happen to make a post about something besides the one thing you consider important, or do something besides the one thing you consider of immediate importance on one given day. Like others have pointed out, there is such a thing as multi-tasking. And there are other issues of importance in the world.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:36 AM
Response to Reply #47
48. This isn't about Roe v Wade
The OP is just trying to start up a flamewar from last night. For someone who doesn't care about the Oscars, she's started four threads in the past 24 hours about them. Odd...
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:38 AM
Response to Reply #48
54. There's always someone with a bee in their bonnet about something
:shrug:
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 02:30 AM
Response to Reply #54
59. Bzzzz.
You said it.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 07:23 AM
Response to Reply #48
62. Yeah, it's ironic that the person singlehandedly responsible for app. 90%
of the Oscar commentary is now griping about people posting about the Oscars. It's an obsession and it's gotten tiresome.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:31 AM
Response to Reply #10
44. How emotionally hard for you
I have a dear friend who thinks if one has severe disabilities they are to be pitied and death is their release from such a life.

We all must look at existing life, especially children, and value it. We must let them know they are loved and valued. You have a tough job.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:37 AM
Response to Reply #44
52. Oh yes
The "their quality of life is so bad that they surely must prefer death" perspective. As if those people actually know what that person's quality of life is. And the reality is that given the right caregivers and right opportunities, disabled people can have a a wonderful quality of life just like anybody else. However, throw them in a warehouse and deprive them of love, stimulation and normal things people have and of course their quality of life is going to be bad.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:43 AM
Response to Reply #52
56. I admire your emotional strength
to look at what they can be rather than what they can't be. That has to be so tough.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 03:34 AM
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61. I was about to hide GD threads
Edited on Tue Mar-07-06 03:45 AM by fujiyama
going on about Academy Awards. IMO, it's lounge material. But I guess I'm guilty of hypocrisy by positing here.

But here's my take on this: Unless some hidden conspiracy, pressuring, or otherwise is unearthed, I will assume the Academy awarded to the film they felt most deserved it. I have seen neither of the two films (I only saw two of the nominees for best picture).

Is it POSSIBLE they bent to political and social pressure? Perhaps. But it's difficult to prove and all this is nothing more than idle speculation. After all, it's not as though Brokeback was ignored. It won atleast two other major awards - Best Director and Best Adapted Screenplay.

Bitching about this continuously is like complaining about your favorite sports team not winning its respective championship. Neither have much real life relevance. Being a moderate sports fan, it gets upsetting, but in all honesty, 5 minutes later, I change the channel and see what the hell else is on (or better yet I just check into DU).

After all, my rights aren't threatened and neither is any gay person's if Brokeback lost. And it wouldn't have improved if it had won.

This isn't an election folks. Move on.

Personally, I haven't agreed with most of the Best Picture winners in the last few years. For example, I still haven't a clue how Chicago beat the Pianist for Best Picture a few years ago, and while I thought Million Dollar Baby was good, I'm not sure if I'd say it was the best pick of that year, or Gladiator? Titanic? Entertaining flicks, but their artistic merit was lacking IMO... but hey...I'm not on the Academy. I could go on...They have their taste in films. I have mine. I'll try to see both Brokeback and Crash. I've heard some say that Crash is manipulative and preachy. And my guess is I would fall asleep during Brokeback...

And if after watching the film, I did or didn't like them, that doesn't mean I'm homophobic or racist. It just means I didn't like a film.



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GOPNotForMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 07:31 AM
Response to Original message
63. The tone of this post was uncalled for and nasty, quite frankly.
Edited on Tue Mar-07-06 07:35 AM by GOPNotForMe
You might wanna rethink how you talk to people.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 07:51 AM
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64. Locking
Women's Issues are indeed important and need to be discussed. Abortion, as well as other issues of a political nature, are welcome in GD/P.

This thread has gone off on a tangent, and the Academy Awards fail the political test.
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