Lieberman has a Challenge within the party! Ned Lamont...

[98geoduck]

he'll be making an official announcement Monday AM in the Old Capitol Buiding in Hartford. Announced on AAR with Sam Seder.

to ALL progressive dems, Please donate!

http://nedlamont.com/index.html
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/1/6/16528/39352

[wyldwolf]

1. No! Really?

[LaurenG]

5. ...

:eyes:

[wyldwolf]

9. seriously. I had not heard this.

Nah, just kidding.

[LaurenG]

2. Finally

:thumbsup:

[Atman]

3. I'll be there!

I'll try to take some pics, if they'll let me.

[kohodog]

8. Host a house party too Atman, or come to ours!

The gloves are off. Joe must go!

[Atman]

11. PM me the info

I probably can't host, although it's not out of the realm of possibility. I'll think about it. But send me the info for your house party. I've never been to one, and I'd love to attend.

[98geoduck]

12. "Gotta Go Joe" was Seder's call.

He was actually naming a pretend doll of lieberman he received. LMAO

[Doctor_J]

4. Is Ned trotting out the "b" word every time he speaks of Joe?

The B word being Bush.

[Larkspur]

6. I'll be at the Hartford event on Monday

Ned did great on AAR and Sam Seder did a great job setting up the interview and to keep promoting Ned's campaign.

[98geoduck]

7. Couldn't agree more...Ned sounded professional, no B.S.!....

I'm just astonished this wasn't posted earlier. I considered placing in breaking news, but wasn't sure how the mods would handle it.

[Atman]

10. It won't be officially "breaking news" until Monday at 10:00 am!

But I hear ya. This is big. And very good!

[Douglas Carpenter]

36. this is his schedule from his website for the coming week:

http://nedlamont.com/
Events
Check back frequently for updates!

Official Announcement
Please join us for the official announcement of Ned Lamont's candidacy for U.S. Senate.
Monday March 13th, 4:00 PM
Old State House
800 Main Street
Hartford, CT 06103


Directions and parking information
Google Map

Torrington Democracy for America
3/08/06
Dos Amigos Restaurant in Torrington
910 East Main Street
7:00 PM

Google Map

Ned Lamont on Air America Radio
3/10/06
5:30 PM

You can listen to Air America Radio on the web, on XM 167 or on your AM dial.

It is worth noting that New Haven's WAVZ 1300 AM delays the Randi Rhodes show by three hours so people can listen to the Ed Schultz show. So, if you listen to WAVZ, tune in at 8:30 PM

Shelton Democratic Town Committee
3/21/06
Shelton Community Center
41 Church Street
7:30 PM

Guilford Democratic Town Committee
03/23/06
Guilford Community Center
On Route 77, near the green
7:30 PM

Wesleyan University
3/29/06
6:00 PM

New Haven Democracy for America
4/05/06
Location: TBA
7:00 PM

Middlefield Democratic Town Committee
4/11/06
Middlefield Community Center
7:30 PM

Enfield Democratic Town Committee
4/12/06
Enfield Town Hall
8:00 PM



http://nedlamont.com/contribute.html

http://nedlamont.com/volunteer.html

[David Dunham]

13. LaMont has no real chance. Elected CT Dems almost all back Joe.

[Atman]

14. Good thing there are so few elected CT dems.

There are far, far more unelected democratic voters, though, and we're the ones who'll decide, not Joe's friends. Connecticut residents are pissed off, and towns have actually voted to censure the man. When was the last time you saw that happen in a Senatorial race? I'm certainly not prepared to bet the farm on Ned's election, but nor would I bet that he won't win, either.

Ned Lamont has a chance, and I intend to help turn that "chance" into a "sure thing!"

[98geoduck]

15. article you may find of interest....

http://www.swingstateproject.com/2005/04/ctsen_joe_liebe.html

[David Dunham]

16. LaMont's toast before he even announces. Lieberman wins in a walk.

[Atman]

17. Okay, Dave. I won't save you a seat at the announcement rally

Are you a CT resident, btw?

[David Dunham]

18. Yes. I live in Westport. I know the Dem voters will renominate Lieberman

Ned is toast.

[Atman]

19. Come visit working class Connecticut.

The big-money voters down there will certainly back the man who helps Bush dole out their tax cuts. But talk to the voters in places like Enfield and Stafford and New Britain then get back to me.

[Cascadian]

59. Holy Joe is not a real Democrat.

His track record speaks for itself. He is the embodiment of Republican Lite. He does not deserve to win the Democratic nomination in Ct.


John

[98geoduck]

21. I'm thinkin Joe is toast, another tidbit...

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/printer_012806C.shtml

all analysis shows Joe sinking with the Titanic he built.

[Douglas Carpenter]

27. a serious question from someone who has already donated to Lamont

Given that the Republicans have pretty much written off this race to Lieberman; if the gods are with us and Lamont does win the primary, will there be ANY credible challenger to him in the general election in November?

[OctOct1]

28. Joe will run as a independent

and challenge Lamont again.

[Douglas Carpenter]

29. is that official? Has Joe actually said that?

[IndianaGreen]

39. Holy Joe told a reporter that his name would be in the November ballot

no matter what happens in primary.

Joe's comment was near the end of a lengthy article about Joe and the unhappiness of many CT Democrats with him. The article was posted in DU about a month ago.

[Douglas Carpenter]

50. He can't unless he quits the party before the filing deadline- 23 May

link:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/2/17/13253/8776

snip: "Lieberman CAN'T run as an independent in the general election unless he were to quit the party before the filing deadline.

More useful, in the crosstabs of this poll we see that amongst Democrats, the breakdown is as follows:

Lieberman 47
Lamont 36

So Lieberman is under 50 amongst Democrats, just 11 points ahead, against a candidate no one has ever heard of. That's absolutely insane."

[kohodog]

30. Joe is more popular among CT republicans than Dem's

A recent poll gave Gotta go Joe about 46% among Dem's. Republicans would need to cross over to vote for him in the primary. Joe is nervous and making a big deal about how liberal he is by putting pressure on the admin during the Katrina hearings.

The democratic machine will certainly support Joe, but people are pretty pissed. If Ned doesn't make any major mis-steps it could be interesting.

[killerbush]

20. Lamont is freaking toast, Joe will crush him

I heard Lamont on the Sam Seder show today, and so did about 20 other people. Let Lamont have his day in the sun, because by the time it's all over, Lamont will join the pantheon of other losers who tried to unseat Lieberman. Actually, I feel kind of sorry for him, being the sacraficial lamb, led to slaughter.

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[98geoduck]

23. Another DU er with Joementum. I didn't realize any was left after losing..

his own state in the pres primaries. But hey, let the juices flow
Sorry , Gotta Go Joe!

[guidod]

58. I listened to Lamont on the Randi Rhodes show as well.

I liked everything he said. Lieberman is a republican with a "D" after his name. He doesn't have an ounce of liberal in him. Sam Seder was sitting in for Randi and Sams show is call The Majority Report.

[wyldwolf]

24. each time I notice one of these threads, I make this offer:

A DU betting pool on this race. Money to go to charity.

$50. on Lieberman.

[kohodog]

31. I was in the "Let's not waste time fighting within" camp for a while,

But Joe has made too many bad calls for me to support him. The last straw was Alito and his refusal to support the filibuster. His vote against the Alito confirmation was a meaningless gesture, and when his vote was needed he wasn't there. He is a Bush apologist for the disaster in Iraq that has needlessly killed how many people??

He votes for corporate interests above the people's interests and I see working to unseat him as important as unseating Rob Simmons, who may in fact be more liberal than Joe.

[wyldwolf]

32. be that as it may, the underlying question is will Lamont win?

I say he won't.

And I'll bet on it, with money to go to charity.

[kohodog]

34. So there's no point in a challenge?

At the very least it will make Joe think before he votes against his constituents. CT is a fairly liberal state, with a very conservative Senator. He is already paying attention to Lamont.

Win or lose, nothing will happen if nobody steps up and challenges. And from what I know of Lamont to this point I'd much rather have him representing me than Joe.

[wyldwolf]

53. I didn't say that

Even in a sporting event, there is a winner and a loser. I look at the odds, the "tale of the tape" and bet on who I think will win.

[Douglas Carpenter]

35. this is what finally did it for me -- and I had actually pointed out that

he was relatively liberal on many domestic issues:

" Sen. Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut reproached fellow Democrats for criticizing President Bush during a time of war.

"It's time for Democrats who distrust President Bush to acknowledge that he will be the commander in chief for three more critical years and that in matters of war we undermine presidential credibility at our nation's peril," Lieberman said."

link:

http://edition.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/12/08/democrats.iraq/?section=cnn_latest

and this interesting comment from Sen. Lieberman while in Baghdad

"Time magazine Baghdad bureau chief Michael Ware on Morning Sedition this morning:

I and some other journalists had lunch with Senator Joe Lieberman the other day and we listened to him talking about Iraq. Either Senator Lieberman is so divorced from reality that he's completely lost the plot or he knows he's spinning a line. Because one of my colleagues turned to me in the middle of this lunch and said he's not talking about any country I've ever been to and yet he was talking about Iraq, the very country where we were sitting."

link:
http://atrios.blogspot.com/2005_11_27_atrios_archive.html#113328407009752558

Again, I myself have pointed out on numerous occasions that Sen. Lieberman has a moderately liberal voting record on many domestic issues along with his enthusiastic embrace of neoliberal economic ideology.

His comments regarding the Iraq War must reveal that he is either being disingenuous or seriously delusional. The Democratic constituency of Connecticut needs the chance to express their disapproval in the Democratic Primary; win or lose.

Sen. Lieberman's very public position on the Iraq War and those who oppose it and what appears to be an embrace of a slightly modified form of neoconservative ideology is not some insignificant wedge issue. It goes to the very core of the direction of the country. Someday America will have to decide whether it wants to continue down the path of ultra-militarism or whether it wants to maintain the social fabric of our own society and some degree of moral authority in the world. It appears that Sen. Lieberman is choosing the very wrong side of history.


http://www.nedlamont.com

http://www.nedlamont.com/contribute.html

[kohodog]

37. Well said. n/t

[wyldwolf]

54. Good. So...

A DU betting pool on this race. Money to go to charity.

$50. on Lieberman.

[Douglas Carpenter]

55. I am not disputing the likelihood of Lieberman winning

He is undoubtedly the front-runner. That is obvious.
I'm supporting a challenge and an alternative in a very special case in which the GOP has already ruled-out backing a serious candidate for the November general election

[killerbush]

48. wyldwolf, you'll get no takers

They know Lamont is toast. All the Lamont people have are their own hatred for Lieberman. This is not a stragety. Lieberman will win in a walk.

[Douglas Carpenter]

56. so what is supporting neocon policies of death and destruction?

What does one call blind support for neoliberal economic ideology which is spreading so much suffering all over the world; love?

I know this sounds old-fashioned and square these days. But,
for some people doing the morally right thing is still important.

[Douglas Carpenter]

25. Ned Lamont -- from his website:

http://www.nedlamont.com/contribute.html

http://www.nedlamont.com/contribute.html

from his website-link: http://www.nedlamont.com/index.html

"Ned Lamont is a family man, community volunteer, and successful businessman running in the Democratic primary for US Senate in Connecticut on August 8th. Ned has been spurred to run by his disappointment at how the Bush administration is undermining our greatest democratic traditions. While much of this frustration is rooted in his opposition to Bush's war in Iraq, Ned understands that the problems with the Bush administration cut across many issues.
Ned is running because he believes that Connecticut deserves a Senator who will stand up to the Bush administration. Ned's willingness to challenge a very well financed eighteen- year incumbent is clear proof that he will fight for what Connecticut's families need.

Ned, and his wife Annie, live in Fairfield County with their three children (Emily, Lindsay, and Teddy). Ned is a graduate of both Harvard and the Yale School of Management. Ned started his career working for a small newspaper in Vermont. He eventually entered the telecommunication business, and, after helping Cablevision start its Fairfield County operations, successfully founded his own company, Lamont Digital Systems, providing advanced telecommunications networks for college campuses with over 150,000 subscribers. The company offers an alternative to cable utilities and allows universities to customize the programming for their own campuses.

In addition to helping to raise his children and running a business, Ned has brought innovation and entrepreneurship to his community activities. He served as Selectman in his heavily Republican hometown of Greenwich and later served on the town finance committee. Ned was appointed as Chairman of the State Investment Advisory Council, which oversees the state pension funds. Ned has been very active in his community on the boards of the Land Trust, YMCA, YPO (Young President's Organization) and the Urban League. Ned serves on the Business Advisory Group at Brookings Institution, a private nonprofit organization devoted to independent research and innovative policy solutions, and was a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and the Citizen's Advisory Committee/telecommunications at the United States Information Agency.

As a parent and businessman, Ned understands the importance of health care and education to our families and our economy. He will fight for universal affordable health care as a basic human right. He understands that the Medicare Prescription Drug Benefit was written by lobbyists for HMOs and Drug Companies, and that our seniors deserve a benefit that works for them.

Ned knows how critically important education is to America's competitiveness. Ned co-teaches classes on entrepreneurship at Harding High School in downtown Bridgeport, Connecticut. This experience has helped to shape Ned's passion to guarantee that all of our children are taught in 21st century schools that inspire them to learn.

Ned cares deeply about our civil liberties. He will fight to get the federal government out of our private lives and help put an end to illegal domestic spying.

Ned knows that 'business as usual', and empty promises without financial backing, won't solve our nation's energy problems. He will take on the powerful special interests in Washington to push for energy conservation and alternative fuels development as national priorities, instead of the Bush administration's subsidies for oil companies. He will welcome local participation in the shaping of energy policy. Ned believes that government must respect its citizens and tell them the truth."

http://www.nedlamont.com/index.html

[katinmn]

26. Lamont's credentials in telecommunications are a huge asset to us. Go Ned!

Ned is a graduate of both Harvard and the Yale School of Management. Ned started his career working for a small newspaper in Vermont. He eventually entered the telecommunication business, and, after helping Cablevision start its Fairfield County operations, successfully founded his own company, Lamont Digital Systems, providing advanced telecommunications networks for college campuses with over 150,000 subscribers. The company offers an alternative to cable utilities and allows universities to customize the programming for their own campuses.

In addition to helping to raise his children and running a business, Ned has brought innovation and entrepreneurship to his community activities. He served as Selectman in his heavily Republican hometown of Greenwich and later served on the town finance committee. Ned was appointed as Chairman of the State Investment Advisory Council, which oversees the state pension funds. Ned has been very active in his community on the boards of the Land Trust, YMCA, YPO (Young President's Organization) and the Urban League. Ned serves on the Business Advisory Group at Brookings Institution, a private nonprofit organization devoted to independent research and innovative policy solutions, and was a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and the Citizen's Advisory Committee/telecommunications at the United States Information Agency.

[rucky]

33. Time to put up or shut up, folks!

Donate, or (voluntarily) give up your right to complain about Lieberman. Deal?

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

38. All the material that Lamont needs:

[FogerRox]

42. Jersey here- might have to run over to Conn. and give Ned a week

of my time.

[Ce qui la baise]

40. What? To turn Republican?

[Douglas Carpenter]

41. The GOP is NOT fielding a serious challenge in November

[guidod]

43. It would be nice, but...

Lieberman is backed by 69% of Conneticut's republican voters. If the dems defeat Lieberman in the primaries, do you honestly think these republicans would support another democrat? I don't think so, I think we would lose another seat in the senate to the republicans. I know he's been a rubber stamp for Bush, but strategically I think it would be a bad move for the dems.

http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_27263551.shtml

[Douglas Carpenter]

46. in a normal situation I could see that point. but the GOP is not running

a serious candidate this November -- so it changes the picture dramatically.



http://www.nedlamont.com

[guidod]

47. Good point.

Do you know when the deadline is for a GOP candidate to enter their primaries?

[Douglas Carpenter]

49. I came across the date somewhere of May 23rd// the primary is Aug 8

I found this interesting from Daily Kos:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/2/17/13253/8776

"Lieberman CAN'T run as an independent in the general election unless he were to quit the party before the filing deadline.

More useful, in the crosstabs of this poll we see that amongst Democrats, the breakdown is as follows:

Lieberman 47
Lamont 36

So Lieberman is under 50 amongst Democrats, just 11 points ahead, against a candidate no one has ever heard of. That's absolutely insane."

[Douglas Carpenter]

44. Act Blue for Lamont

link:

https://secure.actblue.com/contribute/entity/9354



http://www.nedlamont.com

[UrbScotty]

45. Go Ned! Go Ned! Go, go, go Ned! (nt)

[Arugula Latte]

51. God I'd love to see Joe get his sorry ass handed to him.

I'm not super hopeful, but I may donate to Lamont anyway...

[Beacho]

52. I notice all the "Pro Joe" posters call us haters

But I've yet to see any response to the criticisms of Lieberman presented here and on other threads.

Do you dorks have a response to , say, his voting for Scalito, besides that we are just full of hate?

At least you've given up on playing the anti-semite card. That one was truly lame

[Douglas Carpenter]

57. The defenseless people of the Middle East cannot vote or even donate

to fight the Lieberman/Bush neocon policies of death and destruction. Nor can the people of the third world vote or donate or volunteer to fight the Lieberman/Bush neoliberal ideology which is pillaging their countries' economies.

If fighting this madness is hatred, I wonder what one calls blind support?

[98geoduck]

60. sunday evening kick.