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killerbush Donating Member (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 11:24 PM
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Feingold's censure of Bush, doesn't go far enough
This maniac must be impeached. We must not settle for anything less than that.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 11:26 PM
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1. As A Matter Of Curiousity, Sir
You are ardent in support for Sen. Lieberman, as is certainly your right and priviledge. Do you suppose he would vote for conviction on a Bill of Impeachment?
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killerbush Donating Member (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 11:27 PM
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2. No probably not
And I would strongly disagree with him on that.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 11:35 PM
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5. Thank You For The Clarification, Sir
And yet, you put such a high value on the thing, it surprises me a little this does not trouble you more.
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killerbush Donating Member (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 10:15 AM
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17. oh, it does trouble me
But I am more than a one issue voter. And many of the things Lieberman stands up for, I agree with.
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 11:30 PM
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3. That's just what I finished posting on my blog a few minutes ago!
I was just having the same thought!!!!

We should settle for nothing less than impeachment!

http://progressiveminds.bloghi.com/2006/03/12/note-to-russ-feingold-censure-is-not-enough.html
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 11:32 PM
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4. Republicans control the House which is responsible for impeachment
Senate doesn't impeach
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 11:40 PM
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6. It's more strategic than going to be a reality at this time
Yes, like you, I'm for impeachment...LAST YEAR! But...there isn't a chance that Bush will get impeached today with the present Senate and Congress controlled by loyal Repugs willing to vote for their party over their country.

The vote for censure will obviously be voted across party lines, but it puts the vote on record as well as begins the ball rolling for actual impeachment at a later time.

It's a huge shot across Chimpy's bow. And it brings the discussion of FISAgate (or whatever "gate" it is) in full view again. The story will not die. I think Russ thinks this strategy can lead to eventual impeachment and completely agree with the strategy.

By having the Repugs thinking that Chimpy is above the law and having their vote on record, it will make a very nice election year issue to pounce hard on the Repugs that are running for office in the fall.

It's not checkmate, but the King is certainly getting cornered.


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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 11:41 PM
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7. Politics . . . it's the art of the possible . . .
n/t
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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 11:44 PM
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8. That's what the GOP wanted with Nixon...
...to make Watergate go away...
...eventually, especially after the June 23 tape was made public, most Repubs got used to the idea of impeachment....the racial and ethnic slurs on the tapes helped push them along.

but i agree....censure is not enough....prison on war crimes might be enough.

at Nuremberg, one of the charges against the Nazis was "waging aggressive war."
Gee, D'ya think that might fit in the extant case>?
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 11:47 PM
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9. Impeachment must start in the
House of Representative. It is only the perogative of the Senate to censure. It starts the discussion, it doesn't leave dimson and co. out there scot free, it goes down in the history books that he was the second President ever to be censured. Impeachment is the ideal solution, a goal, but Feingold can't do it.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 11:48 PM
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10. Kudos to Russ Feingold for at least saying something...
He's one of the few non-Congressional Black Caucus Dems who acts like he has a pair.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 11:55 PM
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11. Unfortunately, impeachment process begins in the House
the Senate has to wait for the House to pass Articles of Impeachment.
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lilly_j Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 11:57 PM
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12. agreed
we need someone in the House of Representatives to introduce articles of Impeachment over the illegal wiretapping.

It only takes ONE! Just do it! And imagine the public response that person would get.

We would have a new American hero and would finally be on the right path to returning our country to a democracy of by and for the people.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 12:01 AM
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13. Impeachment won't make it to a house vote until after the midterms
GOP leadership stacks the committees with party faithful. If by some miracle the impeachment resolution isn't voted down in the House Judiciary Committee, the Rules Committee will just delay the vote almost indefinately.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 12:07 AM
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14. This is why we are focusing on 2006 n/t
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 12:11 AM
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15. Yes, we really need Cheney as our president. He'll appoint Rummy VP.
:bounce:
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 10:11 AM
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16. Cheney will be long gone before Bush is impeached
(PS I doubt Bush will be impeached, but Cheney's days seem numbered)
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 10:17 AM
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18. "We must not settle for anything less..."
Better start stocking up some weapons or something. Our party is completely out of power in case you missed that.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 10:23 AM
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19. Russ wants to get their votes on record...
...if you think about it, the vote alone may be historic ? It's ballsy and it's great :patriot:
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