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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 10:27 AM
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Conyers: "I need your help to build case for an impeachment investigation"
Edited on Mon Mar-13-06 10:58 AM by Hissyspit
Is There a Case for Impeachment?

I appeared last week at a Harper’s Magazine forum which addressed the conduct of the Bush Administration and whether it has committed crimes that rise to the level of impeachment. A crowd of 1,500 enthusiastically heard from several experts and me as we discussed the tyranny of a President acting to commit a fraud against the United States.
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I need your help to build the case for an impeachment investigation.

I have conducted an exhaustive study on this subject and believe that we must begin the process to investigate this administration for possible impeachable offenses. As former congresswoman Elizabeth Holtzman noted at the forum, a groundswell of public support is necessary for impeachment proceedings to succeed. There was overwhelming public support for pursuing a case against Richard Nixon, while these same conditions did not exist when the Republicans tried to impeach President Clinton. Public opinion is on our side and now is the time to make a difference.

Become a Citizen Cosponsor
I have introduced House Resolution 635 to create a special committee to investigate whether the president's misconduct rises to the level of impeachment. 29 Members of Congress have already joined me as cosponsors. Lend your support. Help build momentum to enact this legislation by joining the more than 42,000 concerned Americans who have already signed on as Citizen Cosponsors at: http://johnconyers.com/citizencosponsors , or encourage your friends to sign up.

Watch the Harper’s forum
You can watch “Is There a Case for Impeachment?” online here:

http://www.c-span.org/search/basic.asp?ResultStart=1&ResultCount=10&BasicQueryText=impeachment&image1.x=0&image1.y=0&image1=Submit

Read the Report
Read the Constitution in Crisis, A 182-page report with over 1,000 footnotes covering the entire spectrum of deception, manipulation, torture, retribution and cover-ups by the Bush Administration. It can be found online here: http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/5769.

Write a Letter to the Editor
Visit this link to write a letter to the editor in support of House Resolution 635.

http://johnconyers.com/index.asp?Type=B_BASIC&SEC={E5BA9DF0-57B0-49D1-B27B-03A00710DE8E}

Thank you for working to help build a better democracy.

Sincerely,

John Conyers Jr.

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kimpossible Donating Member (785 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 10:32 AM
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1. I can hardly wait for John Conyers to become House Judiciary Chair
After we retake Congress in November.
:yourock:
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 10:36 AM
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2. Working at fixing a few of the links - hold on...
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 10:59 AM
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5. done
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SushiFan Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 10:37 AM
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3. I just got the same email a few mins. ago. Go Impeachment!!
EVERYONE needs to help.

IMPEACHMENT of the ugliness in our White House for the past 5 years IS NOT IMPOSSIBLE. It can happen! If we all band together.

Strike now while the Bushies are weak. DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE that you can individually do to get Impeachment going NOW. Please help in this badly needed Impeachment, any way you can!
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Trevelyan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 10:58 AM
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4. Yes!! People have been calling for Impeachment and Rep. Conyers stepped up
to the plate. The least we can do is support him and Senator Feingold by doing some of the things Conyers asks to support his courageous stand against these thugs.

Write a letter to your Representative to co-sponsor Rep. Conyers' three bills to begin Impeachment Inquiry and ask your Senators to support Feingold's Resolution.

Please be a co-sponsor yourself at Conyers' Action Site:
http://www.johnconyers.com
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SushiFan Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 11:29 AM
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7. Amen bro. Support the hell outta Conyers, Bush HAS to go! NOW! - nt
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 11:13 AM
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6. I can see Senator Sam.
If this is not a case for impeachment, then there is no such thing as impeachment. What would impeachment require, if this administration doesn't meet the requirements?

I think those are rhetorical questions. We know there is a case for impeachment. You only have to prove the truth when you want to shove it down everyone's throats. Ie. Clinton was not impeachable, by the standards of sane people.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 12:26 PM
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8. K&R.
Take time to watch at least part of Harper's forum...very inspiring.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 12:39 PM
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9. He might want to add "Vote" to that list.
:shrug:
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 02:21 PM
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10. Afternoon kick
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 02:28 PM
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11. Keep this high on the radar..
:applause: :kick: :thumbsup: :loveya:
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Fiendish Thingy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 03:35 PM
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12. K&R! n/t
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sheelz Donating Member (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 03:53 PM
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13. Does anybody got a better c-span link to
watch the Harper’s forum? The video link at c-span is broken.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 05:00 PM
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14. Hmm. It's still working for me.
It's in the original post twice. Did you try both of them?
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sheelz Donating Member (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 08:39 PM
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18. I tried both links...
Your links work fine but the link on c-span that says "Harper's Magazine Panel on Case Bush Impeachment" doesn't work. I hope c-span didn't take it down!
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 06:01 PM
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15. kick in honor of Conyers/Feingold '08
Feingold/Conyers?
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 07:26 PM
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16. Anything to help Mr. Conyers nm
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 07:28 PM
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17. Now is the time for the Dem leadership to get behind Conyers!!
STOP DAWDLING!!!!

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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 02:32 AM
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19. Relevant to this is Lewis Lapham's comment on how his perception
Edited on Tue Mar-14-06 02:33 AM by Nothing Without Hope
of the urgent need for Bush's impeachment was inspired by Conyers' report and his comments. I was struck by Lapham's passionate statement, published in the March issue of Harper's about how upon reading Rep. Conyers' report supporting his call for Bush's impeachment, he became convinced that Bush MUST be impeached as soon as possible. Waiting for the next election is too long, he realized, something that he had not felt before reading the Conyers report.

I don't have a free link to the entire article, but there is a long excerpt (much more than the 4 paragraphs we are allowed by copyright rules at DU and a nice size to pass on) at this link:
http://harpers.org/TheCaseForImpeachment.html

He explains how at first he wondered why Conyers was going for impeachment - it seemed like tilting at windmills. Then he realized that the reason for this move was clear: Conyers is getting the truth out there in the report itself, so that no one can say, years from now, that no one told them what was happening. He describes Conyers' response to his question about this:


(snip)

...Why not wait for a showing of supportive public opinion, delay the motion to impeach until after next November's elections? Assuming that further investigation of the President's addiction to the uses of domestic espionage finds him nullifying the Fourth Amendment rights of a large number of his fellow Americans, the Democrats possibly could come up with enough votes, their own and a quorum of disenchanted Republicans, to send the man home to Texas. Conyers said:


“I don't think enough people know how much damage this administration can do to their civil liberties in a very short time. What would you have me do? Grumble and complain? Make cynical jokes? Throw up my hands and say that under the circumstances nothing can be done? At least I can muster the facts, establish a record, tell the story that ought to be front-page news.”

Which turned out to be the purpose of his House Resolution 635—not a high-minded tilting at windmills but the production of a report, 182 pages, 1,022 footnotes, assembled by Conyers's staff during the six months prior to its presentation to Congress, that describes the Bush Administration's invasion of Iraq as the perpetration of a crime against the American people. It is a fair description. Drawing on evidence furnished over the last four years by a sizable crowd of credible witnesses—government officials both extant and former, journalists, military officers, politicians, diplomats domestic and foreign—the authors of the report find a conspiracy to commit fraud, the administration talking out of all sides of its lying mouth, secretly planning a frivolous and unnecessary war while at the same time pretending in its public statements that nothing was further from the truth.<1> The result has proved tragic, but on reading through the report's corroborating testimony I sometimes could counter its inducements to mute rage with the thought that if the would-be lords of the flies weren't in the business of killing people, they would be seen as a troupe of off-Broadway comedians in a third-rate theater of the absurd. Entitled “The Constitution in Crisis; The Downing Street Minutes and Deception, Manipulation, Torture, Retribution, and Coverups in the Iraq War,” the Conyers report examines the administration's chronic abuse of power from more angles than can be explored within the compass of a single essay. The nature of the administration's criminal DNA and modus operandi, however, shows up in a usefully robust specimen of its characteristic dishonesty.

(snip)


Lapham's recounting of his mounting rage when reading Conyers' report carries the weight of sincerity and passion, moreso than any other "mainstream media" call for impeachment that I have seen. It also shows that whatever the congressional trajectory of Rep. Conyers' HR 635, it is making a real impact as he hoped it would.

Listen to Lapham, who before reading the Conyers Report saw no reason to call for impeachment early:


The Conyers report doesn't lack for further instances of the administration's misconduct, all of them noted in the press over the last three years—misuse of government funds, violation of the Geneva Conventions, holding without trial and subjecting to torture individuals arbitrarily designated as “enemy combatants,” etc.—but conspiracy to commit fraud would seem reason enough to warrant the President's impeachment. Before reading the report, I wouldn't have expected to find myself thinking that such a course of action was either likely or possible; after reading the report, I don't know why we would run the risk of not impeaching the man. We have before us in the White House a thief who steals the country's good name and reputation for his private interest and personal use; a liar who seeks to instill in the American people a state of fear; a televangelist who engages the United States in a never-ending crusade against all the world's evil, a wastrel who squanders a vast sum of the nation's wealth on what turns out to be a recruiting drive certain to multiply the host of our enemies. In a word, a criminal—known to be armed and shown to be dangerous. Under the three-strike rule available to the courts in California, judges sentence people to life in jail for having stolen from Wal-Mart a set of golf clubs or a child's tricycle. Who then calls strikes on President Bush, and how many more does he get before being sent down on waivers to one of the Texas Prison Leagues?

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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 03:40 AM
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20. Thanks, doc. I had not seen that.
Edited on Tue Mar-14-06 03:45 AM by Hissyspit
Yes, getting stuff on the record IS very important. Finding out who is paying attention is important. Putting up resistance is important. There are many subtexts to interpreting what actions should be taken, and, as always, sometimes you just have to do SOMETHING. Conyers is good, though, at not just doing something, but the tactical, moral and profound something.

Had not heard before anyone use the 'televangelist' analogy (more pure fact than analogy): "...a televangelist who engages the United States in a never-ending crusade against all the world's evil, a wastrel who squanders a vast sum of the nation's wealth on what turns out to be a recruiting drive certain to multiply the host of our enemies. In a word, a criminal..."
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 06:30 AM
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21. Impeach the real Pres first!
The Impeach the Sock Puppet.
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