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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 01:44 PM
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WSJ: Fukuyama's Pivot
The Wall Street Journal

March 11, 2006

BOOKS

Fukuyama's Pivot

He urged military intervention in Iraq and hailed the country's liberation, but now this leading public intellectual has second thoughts -- and a new plan
By BRET STEPHENS
March 11, 2006; Page P10

America at the Crossroads
By Francis Fukuyama
Yale, 226 pages, $25

In January 1998, a group called the Project for the New American Century issued a public letter to President Clinton on the subject of Iraq. The threat posed by Saddam Hussein, it said, was "more serious than any we have known since the end of the Cold War." Efforts to contain the dictator were "steadily eroding." If Saddam acquired weapons of mass destruction, "as he is almost certain to do if we continue along the present course," the whole Middle East would be put at risk.

(snip)

Among the letter's 18 signatories were Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Zalmay Khalilzad, John Bolton and the neoconservative political theorist Francis Fukuyama, best known for his 1992 book, "The End of History and the Last Man." And yet, as the invasion of Iraq loomed in 2002, Mr. Fukuyama tells us in "America at the Crossroads," he came to the conclusion that "the war didn't make sense." The book attempts to explain why and to sketch out a new set of principles for a prudent foreign policy. On April 14, 2003 -- five days after the fall of Baghdad to U.S. troops -- Mr. Fukuyama published an article in this newspaper in which he noted that Americans have "justly celebrated the downfall of Saddam Hussein's dictatorship" (my emphasis). There is not a word in the article to suggest the misgivings Mr. Fukuyama claims to have been harboring for a year.

The chronology here has no bearing on the validity of Mr. Fukuyama's views. Nor does it count against him that he changed his mind. Credibility is another matter. Mr. Fukuyama is a public intellectual of the first rank, with influence and connections at the highest reaches of the Bush administration. Several thousand U.S. troops have now been killed or injured in a war he gave every appearance of supporting well after the Rubicon was crossed. If Mr. Fukuyama now judges the effort a terrible folly, the least he can do is offer an honest account of the part he played cheering it on.

(snip)

Mr. Fukuyama's more relevant objections are as follows. First, he says, the administration failed to anticipate the extent to which the war would aggravate anti-Americanism and reshape global politics accordingly. Second, it mischaracterized and exaggerated the threat posed by radical Islamism: Jihadism, he writes, is "a byproduct of modernization and globalization, not traditionalism," which is better dealt with by integrating Muslims already living in the West than by "'fixing' the Middle East." Third, the administration neglected the insight of the founding neoconservatives -- intellectuals like Irving Kristol and Daniel Patrick Moynihan who, beginning in the 1960s, wrote critiques of large-scale government programs -- that ambitious attempts at social engineering tend to backfire.

(snip)

Mr. Stephens is a member of the Journal's editorial board.

URL for this article:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB114202514018795111.html (subscription)

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Submariner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 01:51 PM
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1. Fukuyama is just another back-peddling ahole
Isn't it interesting how all these empty-headed neocon-artists have a revelation AFTER the damage is done rather than using sound reasoning at the beginning of Chimpy's crusade. Another idiot to throw in the pile of dumb-shits.
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LizMoonstar Donating Member (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 02:08 PM
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3. so people can't learn from mistakes and change their minds? n/t
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 02:10 PM
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4. Mistakes??
These people intentionally have sent the US on a path to hell. Now the silly fuck is starting to think maybe that was a bad idea.

"Mistake" my foot.
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LizMoonstar Donating Member (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 02:14 PM
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5. he realised he was an idiot and is trying to repair the damage.
Edited on Mon Mar-13-06 02:15 PM by LizMoonstar
why does this not count for anything?
not everyone can forecast the future perfectly, but you expect them to always know what's going to happen with their work. that's kind of lame.

though I must admit, i know very little about this guy.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 03:34 PM
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8. Here is some stuff to show you what he is.....
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LizMoonstar Donating Member (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 04:39 PM
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9. so he was wrong, and in 2003 began saying so.
but that doesn't count?
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 06:56 PM
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11. These people should NOT be forgiven for what they have done.
To forgive them would let others think they could get away with such nonsense in the future.
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LizMoonstar Donating Member (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 08:47 PM
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12. I'm sorry, but I'm just not OK with that view. But, your opinion. n/t
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 11:52 PM
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13. According to the story, in his current book
he claims that he realized war would be a mistake back in 2002, yet, on April 2003 he had an op-ed in the WSJ celebrating the liberation of Iraq.

So his chronology of events is a bit bizarre.
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arewenotdemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 06:15 PM
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10. The only lesson chickenhawk "intellectuals" like
Fukuyama and Wolfowitz really need to learn is how to hang the proper way from a lamppost.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 02:00 PM
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2. So, this administration failed to heed advice given to them by the PNACers
The PNAC fvcks and neocons urged the US gov't for years to move on the Middle East and now that it's all blown up in their faces the PNAC fvcks and other neocons are now saying certain advice wasn't heeded??


:wtf:


Completely fvcking delusional.

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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 02:30 PM
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6. This article really pissed me off.
Full of specious argument and making light of the costs of a war even this author concedes wasn't justified (while he continues to talk about "liberating" Iraqis).
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Sensitivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 02:48 PM
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7. The NeoCon "error" has likely doomed the U.S. from its goal of
perpetual dominance in the global economy.

Global Anti-Americanism is slowly undermining the economy more than
the public realizes.

The U.S. economy is dangerously depended on the cooperation of other countries and
Bush regime "errors" have left it like a house of cards.

This explains the Admin's desperate fear of the consequences of blocking the Dubai Ports deal.
Indirectly, this small deal could have a huge impact as it augments the trend of
capital away from America in the aftermath of Iraq
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 11:55 PM
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14. The first paragraph is total horseshit
"Saddam a grave threat", "Uncontainable". Total bullshit. Ergo the entire rest of his argument is bogus - "Garbage in, garbage out" as they say.
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