Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

As we sit and wait for the verdict in the Moussaoui trial .......

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 03:12 PM
Original message
As we sit and wait for the verdict in the Moussaoui trial .......
... let's take a look back ..... and let's speculate forward.

In my view, this whole thing has been a stupid show trial. There's little evidence beyond his own words that he's a serious part of the 9/11 plot.

Had certain .... uh ..... dots been connected in the days and months before 9/11, we would have avoided the event. Had someone paid due attention to good, solid, work-a-day people like Colleen Rowley, it could have been stopped. Had the August 6 PDB been written with a title less .... mmmmm ..... subtle than "BIN LADEN DETERMINED TO STRIKE IN AMERICA", it could have been stopped.

If Rummy and Tommy Franks had stayed in Afghanistan instead of jerking off Il Dunce's war boner, we would have gotten the real bad guy. Instead, Bin Laden's out there having brunch with Nicole's killer.

So today we get a verdict in the trial of a man who arguably a delusional borderline schizophrenic who simply serves the purposes of Rove's massive fabrication.

Am I arguing for Moussaoui to get off and be allowed to go back home? Absolutely not.

Is the trial .... and the man, fry him or not ..... a balm to our national wounds?

No fucking way.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 03:14 PM
Response to Original message
1. If someone was allowed to, the dots could still be connected
easily, blame assigned, and it would not be pointing at Moussaoui. This is one huge distraction so we'll look anywhere except towards those responsible.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 03:15 PM
Response to Original message
2. If you're arguing against the death penalty, I'm there with you.
I hope there was at least one person of conscience on the jury who is opposed to the death penalty in all cases on principled grounds.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 03:19 PM
Response to Reply #2
4. Not arguing ...... but this isn't about the death penalty
It is about the distraction and deflection of it all.

**If** there is a case to be made for the death penalty, taking down the towers is a case where it is appropriate.

By that standard, this should never have been a death penalty case.

This guy is closer to that neighborhood bum we all knew and loved who walks down the street talking to himself.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 03:19 PM
Response to Original message
3. If you believe in the power of violence to redeem violence
Then Moussaoui must die.

However, if you're a rational human being for whom facts and evidence matter, then Moussaoui would spend the remainder of his life under clinical observation and psychiatric intervention in the hope of retrieving his lost humanity.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 03:28 PM
Response to Reply #3
5. What did Moussaoui do?
Edited on Wed May-03-06 03:30 PM by jenmito
They're just using him as the face of 9/11 when for all we know he's a wannabe terrorist who likes all this attention but knew nothing. He probably feels way more important now than he ever should've been or deserved to be. The govt. can say he was the 20th hijacker all they want. He probably likes that "status."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 03:30 PM
Response to Reply #5
6. There was good testimony that indicates the **real** bad guys
told him to take a hike.

He's just a nut.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 03:33 PM
Response to Reply #6
8. I agree...
He IS just a nut that these people are making into an oak tree.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 03:41 PM
Response to Reply #5
10. Yeah, I don't think he did anything, either
Edited on Wed May-03-06 03:42 PM by gratuitous
But if violence can redeem violence (and a lot of folks in the United States think it does), someone must die for the attacks of 9/11 -- even if he didn't have anything to do with it.

As near as I can tell, Moussaoui was even too nuts for the fanatics who steered the planes into the towers, and I didn't hear of much independent evidence that he had been anything more than an approving onlooker to the whole affair. I don't know how or why Moussaoui lost his humanity such that the fiery deaths of 3,000 people pleases him so much, but if there's a chance of any kind for his redemption, it doesn't lie along the path of a state-sanctioned homicide.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Master Mahon Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 03:32 PM
Response to Original message
7. He should be sent to a mental institution
he should become John Hinckley Jr.'s roomate and spend weekends
home with the Bush's in Crawford as punishment! :+
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 03:36 PM
Response to Original message
9. He got life in prison. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Tue Apr 30th 2024, 01:40 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC