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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 11:53 AM
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Lessons of Kent State Still Important 36 Years Later
Lessons of Kent State Still Important 36 Years Later
May 4th, 2006 @ 9:43 am

Today marks the 36 year anniversary of the incident at Kent State, that is seared in the memories of so many across our country. It’s implications are strong still today, because as we enter into our third year in an unjust war, we see an administration today, that treats dissenters not unlike they were treated in the ’70’s. John Kerry in a poignant speech on April 22, reflected on the “right and responsibility to speak out.”

“I have come here today to reaffirm that it was right to dissent in 1971 from a war that was wrong. And to affirm that it is both a right and an obligation for Americans today to disagree with a President who is wrong, a policy that is wrong, and a war in Iraq that weakens the nation.”


A journalism major at Emerson College, Michael Corcoran, tells us in an OP/ED today, that “Kent State should remind us of what happens when a grossly misguided war divides a country.”

If we can speak candidly and openly about our history and our present — even the worst elements of it — then we can ensure that the lives lost on May 4, 1970, were not in vain.




Corcoran implores the youth of America, to not “ignore the lessons of Kent State.” He says, “The same mindset and failure in leadership that led National Guardsmen to fire at students of the same age and from the same Ohio hometowns is similar to what led US soldiers to torture detainees in Iraq.”

“Consider the similarities,” Corcoran tells us, “In 1970, just as today, we had an unpopular president carrying out an unpopular war for questionable reasons.”

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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 11:54 AM
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1. Kent State, part II
coming to a college campus just as soon as we attack Iran.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 11:59 AM
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2. One big lesson:
Don't throw rocks at people. Especially people with guns.
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 12:06 PM
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3. True... very true. N/T
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 12:10 PM
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4. The nearest of those shot were 100 yards away.
That's a hell of an arm.
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kainah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 01:18 PM
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12. actually
the closest student who was shot, Joe Lewis, was about 70 feet away from the Guard. At the time of the shooting, he was giving the Guard the finger and so Lawrence Shafer (a guardsmen) shot him because Shafer said he didn't know what Joe was going to do. Then, after Joe was shot seriously in the groin and lying on the ground, he was shot again, this time through the leg.

The closest student to die was Jeff Miller, who was 265 feet from the guardsmen when the bullet ripped into his mouth, killing him instantly. The other deaths were from 343 to 390 feet away. The furthest injury was Donald Scott Mackenzie who was 730 feet from the guard line.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 01:21 PM
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13. I stand corrected.
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kainah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 02:49 PM
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no problem
I'm just a stickler for the details of this event.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 03:20 PM
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16. As should we all.
We are the reality-based party.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 12:14 PM
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5. Guns, and the soldiers holding them...
... should have never been on a college campus. Those who sent the soldiers are to blame, as are those who support the decision to put soldiers in front of Americans.
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 12:40 PM
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6. It's a sad statement on our countries leaders
and a sadder statement, that we're in a similar place again. We all pray to never see another Kent State.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 12:47 PM
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7. Praying won't help
Unless it can change the mindset which allowed such a travesty. That mindset is one that remains today: A mindset which makes excuses, even condones, armed troops confronting its citizens.

As I recall, at the time, far too many people did condone the criminal action that left Four Dead In Ohio.
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 04:25 PM
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17. Figure of speech...
the praying and yes too many people at the time did condone it.
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 07:00 PM
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22. Whoever issued live rounds to the Nat'l Guard (just kids) should have been
taken before the public and tried on a number of counts.

Once you put live ammo into the hands of scared kids in that situation, the possibility of a tragedy is not that remote.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 12:49 PM
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8. The Shooting Was Criminal, Mr. Stubbs
There is no excuse for it.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 01:00 PM
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9. ?
are you trying to be funny?
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Hong Kong Cavalier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 01:02 PM
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10. That didn't take long
Edited on Thu May-04-06 01:07 PM by Hong Kong Cavalier
:eyes:

Not even remotely funny.
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chonce Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 02:40 PM
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14. From today's Boston Globe
MICHAEL CORCORAN
Why Kent State is important today
By Michael Corcoran | May 4, 2006

THIRTY-SIX years ago today, Ohio National Guardsmen shot 13 college students at Kent State University who were protesting US incursions into Cambodia as part of the Vietnam War. Nine victims survived, including one who is confined to a wheelchair for the rest of his life. Four students -- Jeffrey Miller, Allison Krause, Bill Schroeder, and Sandy Scheuer -- were killed.

The students were unarmed, and the closest was more than 60 feet away from the Guard at the time of the shooting. There was no warning shot; the National Guard never issued an apology; and no one ever spent a day in jail for the killings despite the fact that the President's Commission on Campus Unrest, appointed by President Nixon in 1970, found the shootings to be ''unwarranted and inexcusable."

Yearly, since the tragedy, Kent State students, alumni, and others have met on the anniversary of the shooting to reflect and remember. Alan Canfora, who was shot by the Guard, says, ''The students today act as the conscience of the college, and the country . . . just like the students did in 1970."

This year's memorial will come, as the last three have, in the midst of a war that has become increasingly divisive. While the memory of Kent State and other violent clashes from that time between protesters and authorities did not deter the incumbent president from leading the country into another unpopular war, it is important to honor Kent State's spirit of dissent and what it taught about the bloody consequences of intense division.

Halfway across the country, the lessons of Kent State are taught each semester in debate classes at Emerson College. J. Gregory Payne, associate professor of organizational and political communication and a Kent State historian, has been teaching students about history, advocacy, and rhetoric through the lens of Kent State for decades.

According to Payne, remembering this tragedy is important because ''Kent State is not about the past -- it's about the future."

Consider the similarities: In 1970, just as today, we had an unpopular president carrying out an unpopular war for questionable reasons.

Richard Nixon and George W. Bush embody many of the same divisive characteristics. Bush tells the world: ''You are with us or you are with the terrorists." Nixon's public statement after the shootings blamed the students: ''When dissent turns to violence it invites tragedy."

Again our civil liberties are being threatened. Bush has ordered the wiretapping of US citizens without a warrant and holds detainees indefinitely without trial; Nixon was spying on student activists and what he called ''domestic radicals."

But, perhaps the most telling comparison is the sharp division within the nation, both then and now. Americans are now, as we were then, split to the core on matters of war and peace, life and death, and cultural values. The President's Commission concluded it was ''the most divisive time in American history since the civil war." Bill Schroeder's parents received signed letters after the shooting saying, among other things, that their ''riot-making, communist son" deserved to die.

Today antiwar protesters are unfairly discredited by the administration as they were in 1970. When Cindy Sheehan took antiwar positions after her 24-year-old son, Casey Sheehan, died in Iraq, she was smeared by pundits like Bill O'Reilly, who said she was a pawn of ''far-left elements that are using her" and that Sheehan was ''dumb" enough to let them do it.

Of course, the absence of a draft now and its presence then may explain why the antiwar movement during the Vietnam War had a greater intensity then it does now. Still, as the protests in New York City last week indicate, the longer the war in Iraq drags on, the more vehement the opposition seems to get.

Musicians, once again, are singing songs of dissent. Last Friday Neil Young, who in 1970 wrote ''Ohio" in reaction to the shootings, began streaming a new antiwar album ''Living with War" for free on his website. Days later, Pearl Jam also released an album made up entirely of protest music.

My generation can't ignore the lessons of Kent State. The same mindset and failure in leadership that led National Guardsmen to fire at students of the same age and from the same Ohio hometowns is similar to what led US soldiers to torture detainees in Iraq.

Kent State should remind us of what happens when a grossly misguided war divides a country. If we can speak candidly and openly about our history and our present -- even the worst elements of it -- then we can ensure that the lives lost on May 4, 1970, were not in vain.

Michael Corcoran is a journalism major at Emerson College.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 02:49 PM
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15. Kent State was our
Tiananmen square.:shrug:
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 04:28 PM
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18. If KSU were to happen today,
hate radio would sell it, successfully, as a beleaguered *'s measured response to terrorist-loving liberals. FWIW, I look for Rove to try some major violence against protestors pretty soon, to see if his media minnions can sell it.
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Rocknrule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 05:10 PM
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21. Hell, if the OKC bombing happened today
they'd hail McVeigh as an American hero for standing up to those librul terraists
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 04:35 PM
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19. Decent TFH article about Kent state in the Cleveland Free Times -
http://www.freetimes.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=3389&POSTNUKESID=4ecf15252f8f0e75252ddacd85b6d4c7

They broke the windows. Someone set fire to the curtains, hoping it would spread. Another person dipped a rag in gasoline, lit the cloth, then tossed it into a window. Try as they might, though, the fire wouldn't catch. Canfora compares the effort to a Three Stooges routine. Police could have stopped them easily.

"Why, on this evening, was the building left unprotected? I find that to be very suspicious."

(snip)

"Governor Rhodes and President Nixon — I think it goes all the way to the top," Canfora says. "I believe it's possible that someone working for the government finished the job we had started. I think the guardsmen were manipulated by Rhodes and Nixon. I believe the triggermen were victims, too."

(snip)

According to documents released by the FBI, Terry Norman had been assisting university police and the FBI in identifying student activists on campus for several months prior to May 4. Members of Students for a Democratic Society recall Norman trying to infiltrate their meetings, toting his camera with him. They suspected he was using the camera to take pictures of the activists which he would turn over to the authorities. For his efforts, the FBI paid him $125 a month.

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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 10:45 PM
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23. Really interesting
Until I read this and the diary at DailyKos on Kent State, I never realized it was the FBI who may have been behind all the riots and campus unrest.

The similarities to today are uncanny.
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 12:02 AM
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24. I read that last night
Interesting piece.
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 04:49 PM
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20. Days of rage and pondering
Last night reading this excellent Kos Diary with its thoughtful comments, the long buried newsreel played in my head bringing back the heat of the day, the out-of-body experience, and of course the strange soundtrack complete with a voice blaring, "this is martial law..."

But as the night turned from May 3rd to May 4th, I remembered my rage. It didn't end on May 5th. All during the summer of 1970 as I drove past the troops stationed around town, my knuckles gripped white on the steering of my car in an effort to stop myself from mowing them down. Really, the urge was almost too much to bear. Many May 4ths came and went before I could set that rage aside.

As I continued to read into the night more and more my thoughts turned to the people of Iraq. If we met this one day with rememberance and sorrow, how will they set aside this unending string of May 4ths? When will they find peace in their hearts when so many days have brought the rage of loss? That has been my personal question of today. The candles now burning on my kitchen counter are for the people of Iraq. How long will their rage last?
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