Illegal Spying: It's not what they're saying, it's what they're NOT saying

[Sparkly]

What they're saying:
"This is targeted, it's limited, it's only about Al Qaeda, it's only about communications with suspected terrorist operatives overseas."

What they won't say:
Gonzales would NOT say that the spying isn't wider, or that it doesn't go further -- for example, he refused to say they aren't intercepting mail between US citizens.

Hayden, in a conference being re-broadcast right now on C-Span, would NOT say that they aren't spying on BushCo political opponents.

WHY won't they give a simple "no" to these questions, if indeed what they're saying is the whole truth, when they described the "program" as limited to suspected terrorist ops abroad?

[European Socialist]

1. K&R

[liam_laddie]

2. K & R n/t

[elehhhhna]

3. Rec # 5. Excellent post. Very succinct.

[bigbrother05]

4. If targeted and limited, why not use FISA?

They want no limits or records of their actions.

[ItsTheMediaStupid]

6. Ding ding ding ding ding - you hit the bullseye

You win the cupie doll!:applause:

[smoogatz]

5. Exactly.

And those who report the truth (or ask pointed questions) are guilty of violating the Espionage Act.

[hootinholler]

7. That's because they don't want to say that

There's more than one program! Gonzo-torture-boy let that slip in a hearing and nobody followed up on it. Everything is referenced in terms of 'this policy' or 'that program'.

So the terrorist monitoring program is different than the presidential enemies monitoring program is different than the Greenpeace monitoring program is different than the Breasts Not Bombs monitoring program...

-Hoot

[Auntie Bush]

8. I once read that AT&T switches US calls to Canada ...so they can

then listen because it's now coming from a foreign country. That's how they get around the law and can say they don't listen to domestic calls within the US. I wish someone would/could ask Gonzales to explain.

Any one else hear this? Is it true? Can someone else explain exactly how it works?

[mopinko]

9. like randi says

the truth takes 2 seconds.

[bonito]

10. On 9/11 there were about 9 names on the terrorist

watch list(s), today over 300,000, its anything and everything, from those who are for peace or those that can see the Pnac agenda, or who left trash at there camp site in the national forest, some terrorist indeed, all the wile leaving the borders unprotected and the ports as well.
Well,I think its these domestic terrorist we should be watching, that the weak republican party has let take over their party is of concern.

[dusty64]

11. But will they put

hayden under oath and actually demand answers?