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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 07:06 PM
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Poll question: Which of these two guys would you vote for?
Both are Democrats. Given a choice between the two, who would you pick?
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 07:07 PM
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1. Edwards.
I've seen no evidence that he is a neo-con.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 07:07 PM
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tsk tsk. You were just funnin with us, huh?
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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 07:12 PM
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6. Yes, I am actually.
;)
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Kerry fan Donating Member (351 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 07:07 PM
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2. Is this a trick question? n/t
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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 07:15 PM
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10. Yup.
;)
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 07:08 PM
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3. I'd write in Elmer Fudd
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 07:09 PM
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4. While Edwards isn't #1 on my list, I'd pick him over JoeMentum
without thinking twice. No contest there. In fact, I think I'd take Kermit the Frog over Joe Loserman.
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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 07:14 PM
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8. I applaud your judgement and wholeheartedly agree. n/t
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 07:10 PM
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5. Liebermann? We've already got enough neocons to deal with...
:yoiks:
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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 07:13 PM
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7. Then you don't think he should be say.....
President?
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 07:15 PM
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9. Nyet. Non. Nein.
Hell no.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 07:16 PM
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11. Apples. Oranges. I prefer oranges, but would choose the apple if
forced to choose between it and liver. :eyes:
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 07:27 PM
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12. Decisions, decisions. Let me sleep on it for several yrs and get back.
This takes no thought, funny though.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 07:31 PM
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13. I want Edwards to run for VP again
I think that he needs more experience but I like him, I thought his Hope is on the Way Speech
was very well done, I would like him to run as Al Gore's running mate.
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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 07:37 PM
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16. Well that would be a switch.
Lieberman was Gore's choice in 2000.

Edwards was Kerry's choice in 2004.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 07:43 PM
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17. I doubt if Lieberman would run again, oh please. no
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 03:35 PM
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61. well, I know
I really like Edwards personality but I just think that he has enough experience yet.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 10:46 PM
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47. I like Edwards too, very passionate and cares about people
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 03:36 PM
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62. I think that he is head and shoulders above most senators
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 07:32 PM
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14. Depends on what office.
If it is "Most ridiculous excuse for a Democrat ever" I'd vote Lieberman. If it's for a political office, it would be John Edwards.
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corkhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 09:16 AM
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58. No, Zell Miller already received that award
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 07:32 PM
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15. You're kidding, I know.
Edited on Tue May-23-06 07:34 PM by mcscajun
Like that's a real choice.

:rofl:

I want to hear from anyone who votes LIEberman over Edwards.

I still think Edwards isn't quite ready for prime time, unless it's as a VP candidate.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 07:44 PM
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18. someone else who agrees with me
I can't believe it.

:-)
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 08:21 PM
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29. There was Bound to be at least One.
:)
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 03:37 PM
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63. thanks, golden rule of DU, whatever you say 100 will disagree
:-)
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 07:45 PM
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19. It would depend...
on whether Edwards got back in bed with the DLC or not. If he didn't, I'd vote for him over Lieberman. But, if he did and they were both DLC, I'd probably stay home. Never again.

TC
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 07:50 PM
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20. Voted for John Edwards. I expect him to be a major contender in 08.
In this match-up he had no serious competition.

I'm hoping Ned Lamont takes Joe's seat this year. It gives us a more sure-footed vote in the U.S. Senate on key issues.
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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 07:57 PM
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24. Well the poll isn't really a match-up....because I don't think
Edited on Tue May-23-06 08:24 PM by _dynamicdems
there will ever be that choice in a future election. I was just putting the question out there so people could consider these two men side-by-side.

Not much of a comparison, is it?
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 08:23 PM
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30. You're right. You know, I can truthfull say my objection to Lieberman
is not personal.

I love his wife. What a true soul she is. And I WANT to like her husband's political profile, but I just can't bring myself to wanting to continue with Lieberman.

I followed the Watergate hearings VERY closely and came away admiring Lowell Weicker a great deal, and was surprised and a bit bruised when this upstart Lieberman upended him in the Senate race.

Could be I hold a bit of a grudge against anybody who defeats a Republican who defied Nixon, since that took extraordinary character to do.

But the kissy-face stuff with Dubya is just too much for me.

Again -- if Joe Lieberman were my neighbor, I would treat him with the respect I owe to anyone. But in politics, I hope Connecticut Democrats send Joe packing and elect ned Lamont instead.
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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 08:38 PM
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31. You know, I think he is honest in what he's doing. I don't think he's
pandering like some Democrats and Republicans are obviously doing. I think he's sincere and a decent human being. That said, I think he's a poor choice for president if you happen to hold progressive or liberal values.

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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 08:46 PM
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32. Yep. Say. I notice in your posts a picture of that guy...what's his name
-- you know -- the one from Massachusetts? I think he's a senator there or something.

Anyway, I heard him on C-Span a couple of times and he seems to be on top of things...

_____

What a tremendous missed opportunity for American voters in so many states to pass up a Kerry-Edwards ticket for a couple of bloodthirsty, felony-voter-fraud low-life lizard-souled jerks like Bush and Cheney.

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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 09:47 PM
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36. You mean that tall, good-looking fella?
Yep, that is Ted Kennedy. Just kidding, it's actually the other tall, good-looking senator from Mass.

And he is pretty on top of things.

Edwards would have been a fine VP. Look how he got to work after the election. He didn't waste a minute feeling bad for himself. He got right to work trying to make some headway on the poverty situation. He's a class act and a true Democrat. Yep, a fine pair they would have made for our country.

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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 11:08 PM
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48. I'm smiling at your response. But kind of crying, too, that the nation
wound up with Bush-Cheney and not Kerry-Edwards.

Beyond the cheating itself, it's the feeling that I'd be more proud to be a U.S. citizen under Kerry-Edwards than under this bunch of liars and thieves we have in there now.
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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 11:33 PM
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54. It is sad because these pretenders do not represent America.
Whenever I see what these scumbags are doing to our country and realize what the world must think of us, I want to hang my head.

But I'm still proud of the two fine who should have been our leaders. They have not once stopped fighting since he election. They still represent us and our values.

And every time I see protesters calling Bush out, I want to cheer. The Code Pink rally in front of the White House made me proud to be an American. We got duped and swindled but we aren't folding out tents and creeping off into the night. How many of us actually moved to Canada? No, we're still here and we're still fighting.

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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 12:13 AM
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55. I hear you. Canada seems to be behaving a lot better than the Bush
administration is. I wouldn't blame anybody for wanting to go there. Plus, they have excellent folk music: Neil Young's a Canadian, Joni Mitchell, Gordon Lightfoot -- and so forth.

But you're right -- most of us are still here in the fight. And we aren't going to give up, either.

I'm in a fever over 06 but I enjoy helping to build the party long-term for 08 and 2012, too.

I feel the nation is more threatened now than ever before in my lifetime, but I am more proud than ever to be a Democrat.

Go, team!
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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 11:21 AM
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60. Yes, we're going to kick back big time in November.
But the party does need a lot of work. More people should get involved.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 07:50 PM
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21. Does not matter. The results were the same Bush won.
Edited on Tue May-23-06 07:51 PM by Mass
Now, if it is for president, while Edwards is far from being my first choice, I would vote for him no context.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 07:52 PM
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22. Lieberman RAAAAAAWKKKSSSS!
Not!

:P
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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 07:58 PM
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26. Somebody must like him. He got three votes so far! n/t
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corkhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 09:17 AM
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59. It's being Freeped!
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Island Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 07:56 PM
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23. Interesting question.
Decisions, decisions ...
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 07:57 PM
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25. I would like to see a Hillary v. Lieberman poll
Let's see who is the most unpopular of the two!
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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 08:21 PM
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28. Yes. Politics like life is full of decisions. n/t
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 08:03 PM
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27. Lemme see which one....the one that authored the IWR or
the one that Co-sponsored it?

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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 11:32 PM
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53. Talk about choices
:crazy:
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 09:24 PM
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33. Lieberman versus Edwards!?
'Why not just give me a nice paper cut and then pour lemon juice on it'.

I am a fan of neither, but Lieberman strikes me as more genuine. I don't believe their policies are that far apart. I dislike Lieberman. I can't abide Edwards.

What are they running for? I might vote for one of them if they were vying for some sort of prize at the county fair. I wouldn't vote for either one of them for a national office.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 09:38 PM
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34. Interesting! n/t
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 09:38 PM
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35. I'd buy your premise more if not for the 2002 speech prior to the war and
Edited on Tue May-23-06 09:42 PM by Pirate Smile
the Dean endorsement with Lieberman actually running. That endorsement was a huge repudiation of Joe and what he stood for by that time.

Judgment is an important issue. There are many decisions and votes that people make which will always be looked at when evaluating their judgment. There isn't just one. There are many.

edit to add - I believe they are both good men who would have been, or perhaps will be, good or great presidents. I don't really see the need to try to discredit either of them. The serious battles will be fought closer to the nomination period and based on who actually jumps in the race.
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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 09:58 PM
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38. Oh I don't think Joe has changed what he stands for.
He's always been a right-leaning Democrat and that was one of the reasons he was chosen...to cozy up to the right. The political climate had changed by 2002, so Lieberman was out.

And yes, these are both honorable men and there is no need to discredit either of them. It's just a matter of Democrats looking at which man better represents our values. I'm personally way left of Lieberman and I don't think the Democratic party is served by any move to the right.




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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 10:05 PM
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40. I wasn't talking about Joe. I think we all know who you're really talking
about in your poll. Well, maybe not all, but some do.
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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 10:28 PM
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42. The poll is about Lieberman and Edwards.
There is no need to discredit anyone. Period.

There is always a need to observe; however, and to make informed decision on our observations.

And I'm observing an awful lot of negativity here toward Lieberman and a lot of positivity toward Edwards.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 10:35 PM
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43. LOL. Yep, that is the poll.
Edited on Tue May-23-06 10:39 PM by Pirate Smile
I'm sure there is nothing to read between the lines either.
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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 10:40 PM
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44. It could also be called Freeper test, but that would be unkind. n/t
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 10:43 PM
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45. You would never do that.
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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 11:12 PM
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49. I'm tempted. n/t
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 11:29 PM
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51. I can tell.
:D

I'm out. See ya around.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 10:10 PM
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41. I agree
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 09:47 PM
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37. ..
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 09:58 PM
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39. Eeeewwww....
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 10:45 PM
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46. If this is the only way you can make Edwards look good, you're in touble!
Why didn't you just pit Zel Miller againt him? LOL

Actually, I can't believe Joe got as many votes as he did. Tells ya something about how unpopular Edwards is becoming for announcing he's against seeing Bush get impeached.

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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 11:21 PM
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50. Zel Miller is an evil man! Lieberman is just misguided.
Okay, I broke my own rule: I bashed a Dem. Is Zel Miller really still a Dem? Holy thundering catfish if he is.

Oh eff it: Zell Miller can kiss my... On second thought... NO he can't.

Actually I wasn't trying to make Edwards look good. Mother nature already did that. I was trying to make a point on the prevalence of hypocracy...how some people are held to higher standards of liberalism than others.
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wiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 02:53 AM
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56. Mother Nature already did what for Edwards?
This is such a disingenous, distracting poll. Edwards accomplish virtually nothing in the Senate. He lobbied the DNc heavily to be chosen as VP. He's a good guy and he should focus on accomplishing a few meanigful things for this country before running for national office. We really should be focusing on 06. Just a few months away.Unless the election fraud issues are resolved, Edwards and any other Democrat has no chance of winning anything. Democrats should start filing formal complaints now. And find candidates with guts to fight to the end on principles. Our votes are being stolen, supressed, lost, uncounted and erased.

Just post bathing suit photos of Edwards and get on with it.With this electorate it might even work.

And sorry just doesn't butter the biscuit on the IWR sponsorship.

I'd draft Gore or Clark before I voted for either Lieberaman or Edwards.

That's just my opinion, not meant to flame. With a Democratic Congress, I'd vote for any Democrat for President. But we are far from there.
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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 04:25 AM
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57. Mother nature already made John Edwards look good. Hello: JOKE.
If you don't like the poll, don't vote. Bye!
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wiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 12:25 AM
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64. I don't like the poll.
Hello: NOT A RELEVANT QUALIFICATION for someone who wants to be President. I also contend as a member of the DU community that it is my perogative if not duty to state that your poll is meaningless. If you don't like my response, just ignore it. I'm not leaving because you don't like my response, or because I object to the constant blather about Edwards' appearance.
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imlost Donating Member (176 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 11:32 PM
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52. None of the above. n/t
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 01:07 AM
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65. what democrat would vote for lieberman? n/t
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