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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 09:48 PM
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F.B.I. Raid Divides G.O.P. Lawmakers and White House
After years of quietly acceding to the Bush administration's assertions of executive power, the Republican-led Congress hit a limit this weekend. Resentment boiled among senior Republicans for a second day on Tuesday after a team of warrant-bearing agents from the Federal Bureau of Investigation turned up at a closed House office building on Saturday evening, demanded entry to the office of a lawmaker and spent the night going through his files. The episode prompted cries of constitutional foul from Republicans — even though the lawmaker in question, Representative William J. Jefferson of Louisiana, is a Democrat whose involvement in a bribery case has made him an obvious partisan political target.

Speaker J. Dennis Hastert raised the issue personally with President Bush on Tuesday. The Senate Rules Committee is examining the episode. Representative John A. Boehner of Ohio, the House majority leader, predicted that the separation-of-powers conflict would go to the Supreme Court. "I have to believe at the end of the day it is going to end up across the street," Mr. Boehner told reporters gathered in his conference room, which looks out on the Capitol plaza and the court building.

A court challenge would place all three branches of government in the fray over whether the obscure "speech and debate" clause of the Constitution, which offers some legal immunity for lawmakers in the conduct of their official duties, could be interpreted to prohibit a search by the executive branch on Congressional property. Lawmakers and outside analysts said that while the execution of a warrant on a Congressional office might be surprising — this appears to be the first time it has happened — it fit the Bush administration's pattern of asserting broad executive authority, sometimes at the expense of the legislative and judicial branches.

Pursuing a course advocated by Vice President Dick Cheney, the administration has sought to establish primacy on domestic and foreign policy, not infrequently keeping much of Congress out of the loop unless forced to consult. "It is consistent with a unilateral approach to the use of authority in Washington, D.C.," Philip J. Cooper, a professor at Portland State University who has studied the administration's approach to executive power, said of the search.
"This administration," Dr. Cooper said, "has very systematically and from the beginning acted in a way to interpret its executive powers as broadly as possible and to interpret the power of Congress as narrowly as possible as compared to the executive."

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http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/24/washington/24cong.html?hp&ex=1148443200&en=b4f58da213ff8a64&ei=5094&partner=homepage
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 09:59 PM
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1. Of course they frighten
FBI sting operation on Congressman :rofl:
Anyone of them can be Bugger anytime and they know it :rofl:

Who is BOSS now the Executive branch that control the FBI, CIA, NSA
Or the Congress and Senate :rofl:
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 10:03 PM
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3. Uh, OV, "bugger" means something different than "bugged."
Of course, you comment still makes sense in context.
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 12:47 AM
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7. Clearly I mean bugger maybe should just say screwed.
:rofl:
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 05:21 AM
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9. It works either way.
Salud!
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 06:54 AM
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11. Just a question of a R or a D
:rofl:
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 10:03 PM
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2. Jefferson was caught taking the money on tape
and he put the money into his FREEZER, not into his bank, something he would have done had he not KNOWN it was illegal.

Jefferson's dirty. The raid, with a warrant, was a legal one.

However, it is disquieting, given the nasty habit of GOP administrations to use the FBI, the NSA, the IRS, and everybody else they can think of to spy on their "enemies."

Honestly, I want this partisan gang GONE, every last one of them. It's not us vs. them. It's OUR COUNTRY that needs to be governed, and the last time I heard, they all WORK FOR US.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 10:04 PM
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4. Meanwhile, the freepers are bemoaning their pathetic Republican
legislators for taking this stance. Viva Bush! and Viva Fascism!, I guess.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1637208/posts
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 10:07 PM
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5. Careful...
Planned or not, this could keep the Democratic "corruption" up front for a long time, until the storm clouds blow over. It's clever, if it is planned.
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crizzo5137 Donating Member (235 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 10:56 PM
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6. ****Sigh****
when will they learn.. You keep 40k in a strong box under your spring tulip garden, and the 50k in your summer shade garden under the hostas....
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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 02:14 AM
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8. Thank you for the chuckle....n/t
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sutz12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 05:58 AM
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10. What bothers me about this brouhaha
is the affect on all of the Rebub investigations underway. What if this provides a precedent that protects all of the Republicans?

This smells a bit. I don't doubt that Jefferson is dirty, but the sting was a bit obvious, wasn't it?

Will the R's get cover from this?
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 07:00 AM
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12. Excellent question
imo...
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