WOW! Now if this is not IMPEACHABLE

[serryjw]

I give up.....Our old enemy, CORSI, is blowing the lid off the North American Union. Who would have thunk that Trancredo maybe our best friend? These time bring strange bedfellows

quote.......
Authors of upcoming book “Minutemen” uncover White House efforts to create a regulatory agency with Mexico and Canada while keeping Congress in the dark. Jerome Corsi to announce findings while appearing with Rep. Tancredo on national radio on Thursday.

Washington, DC (PRWEB) June 15, 2006 -- Revelations in an upcoming book by the founder of the Minuteman Project and the co-author of “Unfit for Command” may result in a Congressional investigation of the White House, this according to the authors. At issue are the Bush Administration's secretive efforts to establish a North American regulatory agency with Mexico and Canada.

snip.....
While researching their highly anticipated book on illegal immigration, the authors uncovered evidence suggesting that the Bush Administration established an office in the Department of Commerce to collaborate on regulation with the Mexican and Canadian governments and without oversight from Congress. Corsi is scheduled to join Rep. Tom Tancredo (R-CO) on the nationally syndicated G. Gordon Liddy Show on Thursday as he calls upon Congress to investigate this previously secret initiative.
end quote.......
http://www.emediawire.com/releases/2006/6/emw399505.htm

[Armstead]

1. Well it would be ironic...

but if true would be a body blow to the WH.

[Tanuki]

2. Could be a red herring

designed to distract from the other legitimately impeachable offenses perpetrated by *.

[serryjw]

5. WHAT is more impeachable than this?

n/t

[hlthe2b]

32. I saw this post...

and thought of our conversation this afternoon. Good to meet you, serryjw!

On edit, I can understand some reactions by others on this thread. 1. It is hard not to suspect Corsi et. al of some hidden anti-Dem agenda in "exposing" this; 2. While on its face, it clearly ought to be an impeachable offense, so too, have scores of other offenses, including stealing not one, but two elections, lying to the Nation and Congress in order to perpetuate an illegal war, blatantly declaring the administration to be immune to more than 750 laws Bush* signed into effect with accompanying Illegal signing statements, etc., etc., etc. To say nothing about their role in 911, torturing prisoners, covering up murder of Iraqi innocents and the "hits" just keep on coming...:sarcasm:


But, this blatant attempt to nullify any worker protections, destroy union jobs, and develop what amounts to an illegal treaty without benefit nor knowledge of Congress certainly needs to join the list.

[serryjw]

33. Dick Clark's top 10

Yes, they do keep on coming! Once the Constitution is history all else is a vague dream.The word 'unconstitutional' will be eliminated from Webster.

Good to meet you also!

[global1]

35. Does Letterman Have Enough Impeachable Offenses By * So....

that he can do a Top Ten List. I can see it now - The Top Ten Impeachable Offenses By G.W.*......

[alfredo]

14. Still if the political right starts talking about bush committing

impeachable offenses, that makes the concept more acceptable to a larger base.

[Doctor_J]

3. Umm, as you may have noticed

this White House doesn't believe the Congress has any function except to appropriate money for any stupid, criminal, and disastrous initiative it cooks up. To paraphrase John Turturro's character in Rounders, Smirk will be impeached right after I get a blow job from Alyssa Milano.

[ProSense]

4. Jerome Corsi is a despicable Swift Liar! n/t

[serryjw]

6. SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO??

n/t

[ProSense]

7. SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO he's a liar! Believe him if you want! n/t

[serryjw]

8. If he and Trancredo can

get a congressional investigation I don't care where it comes from or who started it.

[calimary]

38. Remember, too, that it was Republicans who provided the straw that

broke the camel's back against Nixon. Or more accurately, it was Republicans who WERE the straw that broke the camel's back against Nixon. He refused to resign until Barry Goldwater and a handful of other fellow partisans visited him personally and told him he'd lost his party's support and he would be impeached. Only then did he give up and get out.

[LittleClarkie]

46. But I bet it was Republicans who had a better track record of truth than

this idiot.

It's sort of like trusting the Wayne Madsen of the Right.

Go ahead. But I predict it will bite you in the butt.

[LittleClarkie]

45. So I guess it's a good thing that Kerry didn't get elected eh?

Since, if Corsi is a trusted source, he really must have been "Unfit for Command"

Corsi is a nut. Even if his news bodes well for us, I wouldn't trust that he's gotten it right.

[LittleClarkie]

47. Sooooooooooooooo, THIS!

FUCK HIM!

[MissWaverly]

9. there was a signing statement

the weight lifting lady covered it, God Bless her, last Sunday it was on the Greatest Page,
it was about signing statements, in one GWB created a Bank to handle transactions on the border
for Mexico and American, I thought it was a little strange.

[MissWaverly]

10. Hats off to the W8liftinglady!!!!

w8liftinglady (1000+ posts) Sun Jun-11-06 04:50 PM
Response to Original message
23. Mexico-United States agreement on the Border Environment Cooperation Com
Explain,Please
Today, I have signed into law H.R. 254, "To authorize the President of the United States to agree to certain amendments to the Agreement between the Government of the United States of America and the Government of the United Mexican States concerning the establishment of a Border Environment Cooperation Commission and a North American Development Bank, and for other purposes." The Act is intended to implement an agreement between the United States and Mexico to accelerate the delivery of environmental infrastructure projects on the border by improving the operations of the Border Environment Cooperation Commission and the North American Development Bank.

Section 546 of Public Law 103-182, as added by section 1 of the Act, purports to direct the President to instruct United States representatives on the Board of Directors of the North American Development Bank to take a particular position with respect to certain grant proposals. Under the Constitution, the President alone is charged with developing the position of the United States in international fora. The executive branch will accordingly interpret this provision as a non-binding recommendation from the Congress.

Sections 2(5) and 2(6) of the Act purport to require the annual report of the Secretary of the Treasury to include a description of discussions between the United States and Mexican governments. In order to avoid intrusion into the President's negotiating authority and ability to maintain the confidentiality of diplomatic negotiations, the executive branch will not interpret this provision to require the disclosure of either the con tents of diplomatic communications or specific plans for particular negotiations in the future.

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m2889/is_15_4...

[serryjw]

13. Link doesn't work but

I found it here.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/04/20040405-10.html

There was isgned 1 year before the North American Union was signed between all 3 counties in 2005.

[MissWaverly]

15. I am glad the ABA is looking into these signing statements

He has done more signing statements than all the other presidents combined, some of them
are 80 pages long, I told my sister, it's not what the other presidents did, which might
have clarified a line or two; this is like overlaying the law passed with his own laws.

[serryjw]

11. He's not covered at all

F*CK his signing statement. HE can't just change the constitution, merge 3 counties, change our currency, take away our guns, have an additional body over our Congress & SCOTUS to make laws....contrary to anything he thinks..HE IS NOT A KING!

[MissWaverly]

12. there was also something I heard about him

building a super highway from Mexico to Kansas City to s***w the teamsters and the longshoremen
and flood america with cheap goods.

[serryjw]

16. I posted these links several times for

background.

quote.....
quote...........
There is a requirement for 'Harmonization' of the laws of these United States with the laws of Canada and Mexico. Harmonization will replace our Constitutional government with a new merged set of laws including laws from a Fascist nation, Mexico, and a Socialist nation, Canada. Regional governing bodies will be created that have jurisdiction over the U.S. Congress and the Supreme Court. All privately owned firearms will be confiscated. Latinos will become a huge ‘Protected Minority’ receiving top priority in employment, education, social services and government handouts. Negroes fret about demotion to ‘Second-Class Minority.’

http://magic-city-news.com/article_6053.shtml

Welcome to Martial Law...What a clever way to do it! Can you imagine the RW losing their guns? We will see a revolution in our lifetime.

end quote...........

Lots more for you....you won't believe what your reading
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=15497
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=14965
http://www.nascocorridor.com/
http://www.kcsmartport.com/
http://www.corridorwatch.org/ttc/index.htm
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?print=yes&id=15017
http://www.cfr.org/publication/8102/
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=144568
http://www.eagleforum.org/column/2005/july05/05-07-13.html
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/americannworegions01may06.shtml

[MissWaverly]

18. thanks, I will definitely bookmark this thread

so by changing this country into a global union, then he could cherry pick what part of our
constitution or laws he could keep, he would probably be in power indefinitely.

[Dunvegan]

17. That would be NASCO - The North American SuperCorridor

Found here: http://www.nascocorridor.com/

It really spanks the East and West Coast blue states...and allows for very cheap dock labor in Mexico for all North American imports.

[MissWaverly]

20. Well, isn't this just peachy

[newspeak]

29. you know, looking at this map

I had a "Red Dawn" moment. Remember when the American pilot explains how they came up from Mexico? Ooh, that could sure scare some freepers.

[windbreeze]

28. try all the way to Canada...from way down in ole Mexico....

http://www.humaneventsonline.com/Article.php?id=15497

This is not the only site that has the article...a friend of mine told me he had read about a super highway a long time ago, on a web site that then proceeded to disappear...so when I fell across this article, I printed and gave it to him....and he said...I told you so...he had told me about 6 yrs ago...so I was pretty surprised to find this write up now...that he read about it all those years ago, and told me about it, makes me think that whether you believe Corsi or not...the super highway IS a fact....and come to think of it....wasn't it about a year ago or so, down in Texas, that a couple R congressmen were pushing for a super highway through their state??? Maybe this had something to do with the importance of redistricting Texas...so they had more of their people in power...who knows...or how about the eminent domain case that the SC ruled on last year?? all part of it?? would be interesting to know...
wb

[atommom]

30. I've heard discussion of this off and on for years.

The enormous cost is the biggest hurdle they face. It is sort of the logical extension of NAFTA, with the potential to make the bad aspects of NAFTA even worse.

[Imajika]

19. Impeachable....

...is thrown around so much on here that it is getting to be like the "boy who cried wolf".

From the link:

"But shocking information contained in the book is already causing concern among lawmakers who are worried that the Bush Administration is ceding America's border sovereignty to a North American trans-national bureaucracy without their approval."

"It seems like President Bush doesn't want Americans to know that a North American version of the European Union is being created right under their nose, and without congressional approval.”

Sounds like rightwing Black Helicopter stuff to me.

These minutemen are not a group I would put much stock in. Nor would I want to be allied with this bunch of redneck skunks.

Jerome Corsi? Oh ya, I'm gonna get real excited about what this notorious liar has to say.

Though this will most certainly not be anything "impeachable", if the book causes Republicans to continue fighting amongst themselves over immigration then it can only viewed as a positive.

[MissWaverly]

21. well, I am not going to cozy up to Corsi

But, I have seen some very odd things in those signing statements and there could be something
to this. Do you remember about the Dubai ports deal where Bush kept referring to himself
as the "Government." I really don't think that he thinks for 1 minute that there is any
government outside of him not really and since he listens to his "gut" on policy then
this would not be outside the realm of possibility.

[serryjw]

23. Don't laugh but Trancredo might save us

* care as little for a republican congress as he does for the democrats. IF he can pull off this 3 country merge we will have a congress (either party)& SCOTUS that is totally impotent. HE will stay in power as long as he wants..WHY would he agree to elections in US?

[MissWaverly]

39. of course they don't want elections

look at the trouble that was taken to stage the last two.

[peacetalksforall]

26. If I make the supposition that it's true - a motive for revealing this

makes sense for Corsi types. They can't even get their bigotry and patriotism programs off the ground in the U.S. and now they would have to worry about a Canadian and Mexican having a say in there promotion of the day?

[atommom]

36. I had the same thought. The nationalism and bigotry that the GOP

has encouraged all these years will surely come back to bite them in the ass if this story is true.

[Golden Raisin]

22. I've given up hoping. No one's going to impeach Bush.

He could simultaneously nuke Iran (without informing Congress), publicly burn the Constitution, open up and start shipping Americans to domestic internment camps and declare himself Emperor/Dictator and he still wouldn't be impeached. This regime has gotten away with law-breaking, destroying checks & balances, bankrupting this country and general bloody murder for 6 long years. Step-by-step, month-by-month they have continually gotten bolder as they inch towards Fascism. The Congress has done nothing. The people have done nothing. The media has aided and abetted it all. He'll either finish out his final 2 years, or declare some sort of crisis/emergency and just not leave.

[serryjw]

25. The survival instinct

EVEN Congres & SCOTUS will not allow this. WHEN will the military step in? NO good law binding RWer would allow there guns to be taken away. WHERE is RUSH when you need him?

[bowens43]

24. NOTHING is an impeachable offense

when the house is controlled by the same party that has the presidency.

[peacetalksforall]

27. What's in it for the Bush dynasty, Carlyle, PNAC, the barons? Is it

earth resources again? And a giant push in creating the wealth gap in this country?

[atommom]

31. It's hard for me to keep my tinfoil hat off when I think about this.

It's not impossible for me to believe Bush might try this, but I'm wondering why all the coverage of the NAU I've seen has been from right-wing sources. If the information is out there for anyone to find, why hasn't the so-called MSM or some of the progressive press reported on it too? Are the RWers using this to cut Bush loose from his base? Has he outlived his usefulness? Are they trying to work the voters into a xenophobic frenzy? I just have to wonder.

[serryjw]

34. There is plenty

out there from Canada & Mexico...ALL of this came out in the last 3 weeks....give everyone time to catch up.READ all my links above and put your own Google alterts on this stuff. It's coming daily now. The first time I posted it Skinner deleted it! So much for CT!

[atommom]

37. I certainly will keep my eye on this. Quite a bombshell if true.

And it would no doubt be a unpopular decision, even among the 29-percenters. Will they finally wake up? :popcorn:

[KansDem]

40. Isn't this the "I-35 Corridor?"

Or is it something more?

This has been around for a number of years. I remember hearing an interview with a local politician (I've forgotten who) about how this corridor will affect commerce for 30-40 miles on either side. All the way from Mexico to Canada...

[atommom]

41. It's the I-35 corridor, *plus* a blurring of the national borders on our

north and south. The two ideas definitely complement each other, and would make the trends that started with NAFTA a lot stronger. I'd expect the North American Union to be extremely unpopular if/when the idea is made public.

[atommom]

42. I can't help but suspect that since the people most upset about

this are RWers, that we are not getting the full, unbiased story here. Corsi describes the Council on Foreign Relations, which prepared the report in question, as "left of center." (We know where HIS "center" is ... nearly everyone is to the left of it!) I have not had time to read the entire report yet, but it appears to be somewhat less evil than Corsi thinks it is. Here is a link:

http://www.cfr.org/content/publications/attachments/NorthAmerica_TF_final.pdf

Anyone want to read, and comment? I'll do the same in a few hours ... I have some work I have to finish first. I'm hoping to speak to some friends who are involved in international trade later tonight, and see what their reactions are.

[LittleClarkie]

43. Seems like a bit of a conspiracy theory aimed to freak out those

who don't trust the international community, ie the Freepers.

And I can't for the life of me get past that it was written by Corsi.

[atommom]

49. Same here. I've been following the story, and it seems to be

getting covered by the likes of Corsi, Corsi, Corsi, Phyllis Schlafly, Corsi.... There is some truth to the story, though. I've been reading through some other information about it, and desperately wishing that someone not on the right would cover the story. It seems to be tied in their minds to immigration, more than anything else. It's entertaining to see them worrying about the fate of the middle class (in regard to just this one issue), and that might be the one part they get right.

[LittleClarkie]

44. If Jerome Corsi is a trusted source for info on DU

Then I guess John Kerry really was "Unfit for Command". Good thing he didn't get elected, then. Whew, we really dodged a bullet there, huh?

Anyone know of any more anti-Catholic and anti-Muslim bigots we can start quoting on DU as well?

[wizdum]

48. Right wing ultra extremists may now target him for assassination...

...since he is getting too dangerous by appealing to and having lots of credibility with their "base". Corsi needs to watch his back right now. He may have an untimely accident at the hands of the ultra right wing extemist fascist wackos.