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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 04:20 PM
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Gore Refuses to Back Lieberman
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/taegan-goddard/gore-refuses-to-back-lieb_b_23313.html

Interviewed on Bloomberg TV, Al Gore refused to endorse his former vice presidential running mate, Sen. Joe Lieberman (D-CT), in his re-election race.

Said Gore: "I am not involved. I typically do not get involved in Democratic primaries. Joe is my close friend, Joe and Hadassah are close to Tipper and me and it would be very difficult for me to ever oppose him.

But I don't get involved in primaries typically. He's a great guy and he's right on a lot of other issues."

Of course, Gore did get involved in the 2004 Democratic presidential primaries and backed Howard Dean over Lieberman.

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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 04:23 PM
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1. Ouch!
:rofl:
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 04:23 PM
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2. Yeah. I think Gore is somehow, possibly, maybe
trying to position himself as an anti war progressive? Maybe?
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 04:26 PM
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5. Of course, we would need to forget much to believe that.
For example, the bush-clinton sanctions that took hundreds of thousands of lives.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 04:29 PM
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9. Sounds like a "No" vote on Gore by association.
:shrug:
:sarcasm:
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 04:43 PM
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10. What do you mean?
He was a part of the Clinton administration. to my knowledge, he never disavowed those policies when he ran for President. (he did disavow Clinton's playing with Monica, as if that mattered to anyone).

So that it was more than "association".
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 04:54 PM
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13. Correct.
He's out.
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Thrasybulus Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 08:03 PM
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23. Disavow sanctions?
I agree that it took a tremendous toll on innocent people, but what is your alternative in dealing with a murdering tyrant?

The benefits of trade would only go to those that supported Saddam.

I am open to alternatives.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 04:24 PM
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3. There's a difference
between getting involved in a national race has opposed to state and local races. I would assume Gore was referring to the latter.


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thatsrightimirish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 04:25 PM
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4. why did he pick
Lieberman to be on his ticket in the first place?
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 04:27 PM
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7. Because their politics are so similar?
Must be.

When Bush and Gore "debated" foreign policy, gore said "i agree" over a dozen times.
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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 10:03 PM
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26. I believe that it was a political move
I believe that back then, he allowed himself to be guided too much by advisors and consultants, and they led him to believe that he would be unable to win with all of the Clinton baggage, so picking the most vocal critic of Clinton as his VP candidate would supposedly appeal to the middle-America voters.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 05:04 PM
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14. Gore was more conservative then
Unfortunately, change is not a prerogative the Democrats are free to exercise, either among the Right, the Press, or the Left itself.

But Bush has embraced change -- indeed! If you remember those times where Gore agreed with him, they were over issues that Bush quickly abandoned when he got in power, and opposed on 9-12.

Remember, 'Publicans make wise decisions to change and grow; Democrats flip-flop.

--p!
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slampoet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 04:26 PM
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6. Karma's a Bitch

After all Joe didn't back up Gore in 2000.


About the ONLY actual job that the VP-candidate has is attack dog.

It was Joe's job to go on the attack and accuse Bush of anti-semitism in screwing the Jewish vote in West Palm.

Joe didn't do his job and now we are here.
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 04:29 PM
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8. I wasn't involved in politics in 2000
What was the rational behind Gore choosing Lieberman as his running mate back then?
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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 04:51 PM
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11. morality
Lieberman criticized clinton over Liewinsky. and Al picked Lieberman to deflect some of the heat off of Al.
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 05:10 PM
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16. Thanks, and ugh!
That kind of transparent pandering could not have helped his or the dems image.

I felt like my intelligence was being insulted everytime I saw Lieberman running in 2004, as if some kind of inside joke was being played, and me, the political neophyte, didn't get it.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 05:12 PM
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17. IMO, Loserman was pushed on him as the anti-blow job veep. -eom
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Samantha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 08:33 PM
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24. In theory, Lieberman could help Gore carry Florida
Actually, it is the Liebermans and the Clintons who are close friends. Clinton really wanted Gore to choose him. I think the list had narrowed down to about 3. Some very trivial sexual encounter story hire the wire about Kerry, and his name was struck from the list. (Someone here later posted Kerry was single when he dated the woman in the story ...)

Lieberman has a reputation for being impeccably clean. Gore wanted someone with that type image to counter the Monica-damage.

Before you ask, I don't remember who the third name remaining on the list was; I think, but cannot swear, it was Edwards. With all of the above in mind, Edwards did not have the same potential to sway the Florida vote as did Lieberman.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 07:36 AM
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28. I'm not for Joe but it was the damn butterfly ballots that screwed
up the Jewish votes in FL. All those "votes" for Pat Buchanan, remember?
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TheVirginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 04:52 PM
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12. The headline could just as easily have been "Gore refuses to oppose Lieb."
Six of one, half dozen of the other.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 06:29 PM
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20. No, because nobody expects Gore to oppose Lieberman
However, seeing that he was his VP choice and that most of the Dem establishment including nearly every Democrat in the US Senate is openly supporting Lieberman in the primary, the fact that Gore has not commited to doing the same is a newsworthy headline.
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TheVirginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 10:44 PM
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27. For all the talk this board does on Democrats supporting Democrats
I would've thought that everyone expected Gore to support Lamont if he won the primary.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 05:53 PM
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29. I don't know what everyone expects Gore to do after the primary
I was just pointing out why one headline is important and why another one isn't.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 05:09 PM
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15. Gore was rebelling against Clinton who told him to go with Edwards.
Gore learned a lesson about oppositional behavior that he should have learned as a teen.
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 06:35 PM
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21. Got a link on that assertion?
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 05:13 PM
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18. This is the equivalent of saying "some of my best friends are short,
grumpy, and whiners."

Everyone love Hadassah, it's the bozo she is married to!
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Meldread Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 05:56 PM
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19. Ouch! Damn! Even *I* felt that.
I almost feel sorry for Joe. It was pretty obvious that he was a sinking ship when it came to the Presidential Primary, and attaching to him would be a losing cause... but this... ouch, damn it's like a political bitch slap. Good thing I dislike Joe otherwise I'd be inclined to feel some pity.
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ChipsAhoy Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 06:41 PM
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22. Although I really like Gore
I've been told that backing him when he lost his home state is futile. Yes, yes, I'm constantly bombarded by my righty family. However, Gore is a strong man and I love his recent speeches better than the ones in 2000.

But, sometimes I feel like I stand alone. (sigh)

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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 09:02 PM
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25. Gore's say: "he's right on alot of issue!" Bwahaaaaaaaaaa!
Edited on Mon Jun-19-06 09:04 PM by KoKo01
Who could have ever said it better or more diplomatically. :rofl:

Quote:

"But I don't get involved in primaries typically. He's a great guy and he's right on a lot of other issues."
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