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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 01:17 PM
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More of our Kids will die in the deserts of Iraq this weekend and
not one member of the family research council will care, dobson won't care, falwell won't care, bush won't care, rick santorum won't care, ann coulter won't care, rush limbaugh won't give a flying dog fuck. And when the number hits 10,000 they won't care then either. The Army's equipment is being sandblasted in the desert, the troops are wearing out mentally and physically, the cost is spiraling out of control and "raghead" hating conservatives just do not give one fuck. The conservative response to our kids deaths; they are volunteers and more people get killed in car wrecks. Incredibly compassionate conservatism. Please would a lurker chime in and tell this veteran he's wrong. You scum don't give a fuck about anything but your own selfish, hateful pursuits.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 01:24 PM
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1. Being too upset one year ago to write my monthly news article
I decided instead to list the names of every person from the USA
killed in early June of 2005(June 1st to June 22nd or so -
my deadline ws the 24th)

CNN believe it or not was among the most excellent of resources.
They had taken the time to list the names of everyone from "The Coalition"
who had died in Iraq...

They also described the manner of deaths.

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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 01:30 PM
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2. Many of our troops die by throwing themselves into the H20
I am not suggesting suicide here.

Imagine that you are 22 years old, from the USA, where
let's face it, most places do not experience over 100% heat for
more than a few days each year.

you are stuck in this miserable locale, with 70 to 90 pounds of
whatever, including body armor, and you are roasting.

your convoy goes over a bridge and you see it there:
Your salvation - this magical cool sparkling water. Without even thinking
(you are so parched and your brain is so heat-fried) that with-
out thinking about the consequences, you jump out of your
vehicle and dive off the bridge.


One of two things happen - you are from an inner city neighborhood
where many don't learn to swim and you drown. or the simple fact
that you are entering a body of water with 90 pounds plus your
boots on, makes swimming unlikely anyway.

Dewath by what? Would you call this drowning? Or the consequences
of heat stroke? Or what? This is the manner of death that you NEVER
hear discussed on
the Mainstream media.

Carol Dagg Sterritt
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 01:37 PM
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3. Many of the Crew of the USS Indianapolis
did that after their ship was sunk in 1945 in the Pacific. They were floating around for days in the Ocean, with no water to drink. So with the sun beating down on their heads for days many thought they could dive deeper for drinkable water. Many who didn't choose that option were eaten by sharks.
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 01:03 PM
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19. What is so sad
These innocent kids are dying for no reason at all, yet that witch Laura Ingraham flips them off.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 01:46 PM
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4. Awhile back I had to fly to Atlanta
(somebody else's dime). I saw probably 100 or so soldiers, dressed in fatigues, at the airport ready to ship out. I looked at those darling faces -- goddess, so young -- and knew some of them may not be coming back. I just went in the bathroom and cried. I think those of us who lived through 'Nam are having some bad ass de ja vu.

And you know who else doesn't give a shit? All these **** with the "Support the Troops" bumper stickers on their frickin' SUV (irony, anyone?). Did they do any research before the war started? No. Did they help us go out and protest the war? Day after day, week after week in every kind of weather? No. Did they write their Senators or Congressperson? No. Or how about all these macho nacho gung ho college frat boys who were all about "kickin' some Arab butt." I notice they never enlisted. Or how about some of the Senators and Congressman's kids or grandkids -- the ones who voted for this stinking war -- Democrats included. I don't see ANY of them serving. It's not just the Conservatives who sent these kids to their deaths -- it's the Democrats who sacrificed them as well, all in the name of political expediency. They ALL have blood on their hands!
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BigYawn Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 02:02 PM
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5. Well atleast those going to Iraq to fight volunteered...but all those
3000 people working in twin towers on 9-11-2001 died a miserasble
death by being burned alive in fire or crushed to death by the
falling buildings. I don't recall our soldiers being in Iraq on
that horrific day. I don't even know how many suffered painful
injuries, diablities and disfigurement on that day, but managed to live.

And yes, I am in awe of the courage of the young soldiers going to
Iraq to fight for a cause they believe in. They are all volunteers!!
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 02:07 PM
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6. You lost me there teammate
I'm not quite comprehending your point, if there is one there. Conservatives say the kids getting slaughtered in Iraq are volunteers so fuck em. Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11. If bush had been president when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor he would have attacked Norway and there weren't any of our troops on the ground in Norway on that horrific day.
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BigYawn Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 03:28 PM
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10. At the risk of defending Bush, whom I don't like, Bush did wipe out
Osama's lair in Afghanistan where the 911 attack was planned
and directed from. I have seen Osama's tape boasting about how
he did this. Now Osama is pushed into hiding in caves, with no
visible Al Qaeda training camps such as he had in Afghanistan.

As for Iraq, it was a mistake to attack Saddam inspite of the
oil for food scandals. We all know now that the Russians, French
and Germans were benefitting from Iraq. But if I were the president,
I would certainly have not attacked Iraq without direct evidence of
involvment in 911 or future attacks.

As for Iran, I don't see why they can not possess nukes when US,
Russia, UK, France, China, India, Pakistan, Israel already have them.
I think any country has the right to nukes so long as others have them.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 11:31 PM
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13. Afgahnistan is in more trouble than it ever was.
W did shit.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 01:28 PM
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20. al Qaeda is stronger than ever thanks to our invasion of Iraq
All of Iraq is one big training camp for al Qaeda. Where's Osama bin Laden? We never caught him. How many U.S. troops have died from "terrorist" attacks in Iraq and Afghanistan, planted by home-made bombs?

What does 9/11 have to do with Iraq? Not a thing, except as an excuse to invade and occupy the one country in the middle east that had nothing whatsoever to do with al Qaeda before we invaded them.

And W still kisses and hugs the Saudi royal family.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 03:01 PM
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9. um.. many volunteered for a weekend a month and a
couple of weeks in the Summer, maybe. Or possibly being called to help out in a hurricane or something.
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BigYawn Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 03:32 PM
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11. They should have read the fine print before signing ??
Yes, I agree there are those in the reserves who thought
they would get paid for weekends and other easier tasks.
But I have a feeling the contract says that they are subject
to being activated into combat. It's the old "buyer beware"!
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 11:36 PM
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14. Remember when national reserves were used
to protect us in the U.S. W's twisted their usage to fit the strangest needs. No wonder their enrollment is way down.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 02:25 PM
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7. Why the hell should they care?
They got their tax breaks! That's all that matters. Everyone else can go f*** themselves. Compassionate Conservatives...my ASS!

Stingy old farts are more like it! Sorry but I'm not feeling lady like today or anytime I think about selfish disgusting Republicans.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 02:45 PM
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8. You go girl
But don't forget the young republicans (stingy young farts). They are the evil the party is breeding to spread their disease into the future.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 11:39 PM
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15. Rich people don't let their kids go to war
They have other priorities for them, just like Cheney.
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BigYawn Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 11:16 AM
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16. Which is why I am trying to get rich LOL
Besides, you only have to get rich once, after that
your money keeps working for you.
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AusGail Donating Member (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 09:41 PM
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12. How sad that we haven't learned by the mistakes of the Vietnam War
The main reason why a lot of poverty-stricken (we call them "shit-kickers") enlist in the American military, is so that they could hopefully better themselves academically and possibly have steady employment with reasonable pay. Unfortunately, unless you are awarded a scholarship through academia or sport, the chances of bettering your position in life are pretty low.

I am sure most of the soldiers didn't start out by having hate in their hearts for Iraqis. They were brainwashed into it. Thanks to Bush, when these soldiers finish their tour of duty and come home, many of them will be permanently psychologically damaged. Many will be homicidal and/or suicidal. It seems a far cry from their initially ambition on the day they enlisted. Bush's legacy.

Also, may I add. "Big Yawn" very aptly named him or herself.
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BigYawn Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 11:17 AM
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17. Thanks for that back handed compliment LOL
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 12:59 PM
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18. No. They simply do not care. They don't care if a 100,000 die so long .
as their team wins the election. It's simply an abstract computer game to them.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 03:57 PM
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21. YOU KNOW IT BOSSHOG
Edited on Sat Jun-24-06 03:59 PM by Skittles
back when the munber was 2000 I mentioned the milestone to a conservative coworker who reads the Bible at work - his response: SO? Now I know that's exteme and I don't say this is how all conservatives think. But just ASK any of them about American troop deaths and watch the pitiful excuses come forth - it truly is pathetic
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 08:02 PM
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22. Bosshog, you're right.
They don't care. They don't care about the number of dead, maimed, and all the families.

These are strictly numbers people.

They know that VietNam went on for 10 long years and we lost 58,000 US troops so they know they've still got some time to go before the people revolt. And we did....back in the 70's. Remember that? We were actually in a civil war because of VietNam. Finally, finally we got out of there.

But you know what? The Americans has been through this already, and they will not let it go 10 years.

They WILL CARE real quick. You watch.
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