Ringo84
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Thu Jul-20-06 05:50 PM
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Clinton to help Lieberman against rival |
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Edited on Thu Jul-20-06 05:57 PM by Ringo84
This story was on Yahoo news. I noticed it when I checked my E-mail. You can find it at http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060720/ap_on_el_se/connecticut_senateIs Clinton really going to help that DINO? He doesn't deserve any help. He deserves to be outed from his seat and to defect to the Republicans. Ringo
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Thu Jul-20-06 05:53 PM
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it's been looking like the 'Big Dog' has been going the way of 'Old Yeller' lately. Yet if his help is as effective as it was for Kerry and Gore, then let it be!
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Thu Jul-20-06 05:56 PM
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3. It's pretty disgraceful |
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Why good ol' Bill would help a DINO like Lieberman is beyond my understanding. Are Democrats so concerned about winning votes that they'll sop to RWers like this? What a disappointment. Ringo
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Thu Jul-20-06 05:53 PM
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2. Inexcusable!! Why? Worried, he has been barbecuing with Bush's too much!! |
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Thu Jul-20-06 05:56 PM
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4. Clinton to help Lieberman after Lieberman played the morals |
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card in 2000 puhleez. I'd dump joementum and make him fuckin BEG.
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Thu Jul-20-06 06:02 PM
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5. Joe jumps the gun- again |
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I have never seen desperation quite like this. You are supposed to WAIT for the actual endorsement. You are supposed to HINT that something might be coming. This is impolitic to say the least and appears to be forcing Bill's hand. This is the pattern of his other idiotic gun-jumping announcements like running as an independent- putting all his dem friends on the spot.
Joe is out of control and more importantly, so is his campaign. However, because he is not Dean or McCain but a "respectable" institutional favorite, the news is even less inclined to see or state the obvious.
Palpable desperation. Rushed mistakes. Notice how the pressure is put on his latest life preserver, Bill vs. Hillary. That's what I call leadership- Joe-style.
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Thu Jul-20-06 06:15 PM
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7. This simply confirms what many of us believed all along; namely, |
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that Clinton is the right-leaning Dem we always knew he was. Policy proof? The awful Telecomm Act of 96 and the more horrible "Welform Reform" Act. Not to mention his bombing of Iraqi civilians in 1993 because of a rumor of a plot to kill Bush senior. True progressives can only hope that Ms. Clinton will not be the Dem nominee in 08.
Go Lamont!!
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PATRICK
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Thu Jul-20-06 06:51 PM
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just made this about Clinton. That is not an endorsement but a crutch- or a big bodyguard to hide behind.
I never judge people by their endorsements unless they are really treacherous or crazy. Biull's record is not that impressive on bailing out losers, but he is loyal enough not to care about getting beat up in a lost cause. You can respect that, but he hasn't even given the ringing endorsement yet! Has he?
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Thu Jul-20-06 09:42 PM
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I don't think so. Clinton is pretty liberal. He has to be, considering how much the RWers hate him.
At the same time, I don't know what Clinton's thinking trying to help Lieberman. Ringo
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Thu Jul-20-06 06:14 PM
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6. maybe Clinton is giving him the Kiss of Death... |
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Just playing Devil's Advocate here for a second:
If Clinton endorsed Lamont, that would just make Lieberman even more of a darling with the Republican crowd. "Save Joe! His opponent is a puppet of the Clenis!!" Or, if/when Lamont then won the primary, Clinton's endorsement would help get out the votes for whomever the Republican candidate is.
By endorsing Lieberman, Clinton is not only making it harder for Lieberman to appear to be standing up against the Loony Left (remember, even though we all know Clinton was a centrist on most things, the Dittoheads think he's a socialist) should he win the primary, but if/when he loses the primary and bolts the Party, it'll be harder for him to gain Republican votes, which would be his only hope in a three-way race.
Clinton's endorsement is basically saying, "If you lose the primary and bolt the Party, you're fucked. My endorsement now won't matter to Democrat voters when Lamont's the Democratic candidate, but it will be an albatross around your neck with Republican voters."
:shrug:
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Thu Jul-20-06 06:17 PM
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8. Well ProgDonkey, I like your creative logic. But with all due respects ... |
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I think you're reaching here.
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Thu Jul-20-06 06:22 PM
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9. Well, Hillary will reap what her SO has sown in my book. |
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HC just lost all chance of my vote. Yes, I teettered, but it's a done deal now. Let's she how many RW votes she gets!
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Thu Jul-20-06 09:33 PM
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15. If Lieberman were running in say Nebraska or Utah you would have a point |
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But Connecticut voters are reasonably intelligent and Clinton is very popular there like he is in most parts of the country that are reasonably intelligent.
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Thu Jul-20-06 07:01 PM
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11. I would prefer the that Big Dog endorse Lamont, or stay on the porch. n/t |
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Thu Jul-20-06 08:11 PM
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12. I can see no evidence that B. Clinton is loyal to the Democratic |
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Party. He seems to be loyal to his own agenda which includes helping his wife get elected to the WH, regardless of the consequences to the U.S.
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Thu Jul-20-06 09:30 PM
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14. it's Party control.... |
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....it just looks bad to have a grassroots candidate upset the choosen candidate of the conservative power brokers of the Party....this kind of thing might get out of hand....
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Thu Jul-20-06 09:36 PM
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16. Didn't Lieberman support censuring Clinton? |
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If I were President Clinton I would tell Lieberman to go cheney himself. But I suppose that he is better at pretending to like people than I am and that's part of why he was such a good politician.
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Thu Jul-20-06 10:38 PM
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18. If memory serves, Lieberman jumped to his feet days before Newt |
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in the Senate to condemn Clinton for his actions with an intern. He may have called for his resignation before the republicans did.
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Thu Jul-20-06 10:55 PM
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19. The (fucking) Conservative DLC Brotherhood? Lamont is a fine Democrat!! |
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