Foley's lawyer says Foley is not a pedophile

[dajoki]

Also I just saw on Lou Dobbs that thugs say story was leaked for political reasons. What about the victim? Why wasn't this taken care of when they first knew about it? Then it wouldn't have to be "leaked". I will post transcript when available.

[Stinky The Clown]

1. How was it leaked?

After all, they didn't know about it. And ..... even when they did, they never told the Dems jack shit about it.

[CBGLuthier]

2. He isn't

Get a dictionary and then come back. And no you may NOT quote wikipedia's inaccurate definition.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

5. ahem.

Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.0.1) - Cite This Source
pe‧do‧phil‧i‧a  /ˌpidəˈfɪliə/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation

–noun Psychiatry. sexual desire in an adult for a child.



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American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source ped·o·phil·i·a (pd-fl-, pd-) Pronunciation Key
n.
The act or fantasy on the part of an adult of engaging in sexual activity with a child or children.

pedo·phili·ac (-k) adj. & n.

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WordNet - Cite This Source
pedophilia

n : sexual activity of an adult with a child

[CBGLuthier]

6. ahem

a 16 year old is not really a child. COme on, surely you know the term refers to those poor twisted people who are attracted to non sexually developed people?


The problem here is definition of child.

I stop now, I refuse to be drawn into this fucking argument again.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

8. A 16 year old isn't a child?

:rofl:

[CBGLuthier]

13. No damnit

Jesus what is so hard for people to understand about this.

True and actual pedophiles like little children. Once they start to sexually mature they lose interest.

Most 16 year olds of both sexes tend to be sexually mature. Not legally mature, not even particularly mature, but secondary sexual organs have developed and pubic hair is grown and the females are capable of pregnancy and the males capable of impregnating.


Pedophiles do NOT like that.

I really can not understand what is so DAMN hard about that to understand.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

16. LOL.

The dictionary doesn't say anything about "little" children, or "sexually mature."

Maybe you should complain to the people who write the dictionaries.

[AtomicKitten]

17. pedophilia means attraction to children below age of consent

as I've stated below, the age of consent is 18 in Florida
this page was 16
therefore, Foley's predatory advances towards this child were a manifestation of pedophilia

[MrCoffee]

19. Who gives a flying fuck? The bastard got caught in a sordid sex scandal

and you're gonna argue semantics? I think the DNC is hiring for the midterms, you'd be fucking perfect.

[smalll]

29. You are 100% correct on this.

Being attracted to teenagers does not make one a "pedophile" - if so, we are all pedophiles. If you have a normal attraction to women, you will be attracted by 16 year old girls. If you have a normal attraction to men, you will be attracted to 16 year old boys. Is it right to act on that attraction? Absolutely not. But it is an attraction that is normal and natural.

Pedophiles are attracted to pre-pubescent children. Pedophilia is not an attraction to which normal people can be tempted into. Your generic Dirty Old Man wants to get busy with 20 year olds or even 15 year olds - but not 8 year olds! For normal people (like myself) a teenager is desirable. An 8 year old is not.

[dajoki]

30. I am normally non-violent, but...

if it was MY 16 year old child, somebody would be hospitilized.

[kestrel91316]

25. Of course not. A 16-yr-old is an ADULT, legally, morally,

physically and emotionally.

What? You didn't get the memo??

[AtomicKitten]

9. the age of consent in Florida is 18

the child was 16 and in the eyes of the law a minor

[CBGLuthier]

15. This is not about age of consent

It is about the proper defintion and pathology of a condition.
Having sex with a minor is wrong and illegal. But it does not make the other person a pedophile unless the minor is sexually immature.

[AtomicKitten]

18. yes it is

the medical and legal definition of pedophilia is attraction to children below age of consent

[CBGLuthier]

20. No it is NOT

I swear to god I am going literally insane with this arguemnt.

FIne, make it be whatever you wnat. You are wrong but fine go ahead.

[AtomicKitten]

22. pathology does not supersede the legal or medical implications

The World Health Organization, for instance, defines adolescence as the period of life between 10 and 19 years of age, though it is most often defined as the period of life between the ages of 13 and 18.

The diagnosis is broader than your argument and, in this case, the legal ramifications supersede the clinical pathologic diagnosis.

[OzarkDem]

27. He's a pedophile, the kids were under 18

Its not just the law, its realistic. Kids that age aren't mature enough to make decisions about having sex with people, especially those much older than them who hold a great deal of power.

This can't be excused.

[stepnw1f]

10. 16 is not a Child? LOLLOLOLOL.... He's a Pedophile.

[MrCoffee]

14. Under the law, 16 is a child, and screw his ass to the wall regardless

don't pussyfoot around with what is or is not the clinical definition of pedophilia. He's a predator. He's a predator. Let's all practice saying that a few times

[dajoki]

21. A 16 year old IS a child...

Legally, physically and mentally.

[Debi]

7. Does the term 'sexual predator of minors' fit? n/t

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

3. So the lawyer admits there was a cover-up...

in his client's attempts to have sex with children.

:rofl:

[AtomicKitten]

4. actually that's precisely what he is

and we know it for sure because he so adamantly denies it
he's preying on children in a sexual bent which is the very definition of pedophile

[MrCoffee]

11. And Ted Stevens Says The Internets Are A Bunch Of Tubes!

so who gives a flying dead rats ass what the spin is, keep your eyes on the ball, people! DO NOT GET DISTRACTED INTO THIS "I'M A VICTIM" BULLSHIT!

He's a predator. He's a pervert. He likes little boys.
He's a perdator. He's a pervert. He likes little boys.

Repeat after me.

He's a predator. He's a pervert. He likes little boys.

[dajoki]

24. He's a predator. He's a pervert. He likes little boys.

He's a predator. He's a pervert. He likes little boys.
He's a predator. He's a pervert. He likes little boys.
He's a predator. He's a pervert. He likes little boys.

How's that? It's the truth!!

[stepnw1f]

12. He is Definitely a Pedophile! (nt)

[dajoki]

23. Yes he is...

And I could get into some other names he should be called, but I'll just leave it at that!!

[truthisfreedom]

26. okay, there's no reason to listen to the lawyer. FOLEY IS LYING... LOOK!

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/10/new_foley_insta.html

INTERNET CYBERSEX with a minor IS SEXUAL CONTACT.

[Guaranteed]

28. But he WAS molested as a child, by clergy!

Not a pedophile, but that's the reason he molests children.

[mentalsolstice]

31. Rewrite the Laws

My husband and I had a long discussion about this on our way back from the beach today...we decided that the term "Child Sexual Predator","Convicted Sexual Offender" or "Statutory Rape" should be rehashed:

Included in the laws:

1. Any church worker or volunteer who has sex with one under the age 18, or contacts such with the intent to seduce or entice...
2. Any teacher or school employee who has sex with one under the age 18, or contacts such with the intent to seduce or entice...
3. Any employer or designated supervisor thereof who has sex with an employee under the age 18, or contacts such with the intent to seduce or entice... (and other categories we didn't think of because we were too hungover)
4. Provided that the age difference between the complainant and the defendant was more than 2, 3 or 5 years (we'd leave this up to the state and child development experts to determine what is appropriate). What we're trying to avoid is branding a 19 y.o. camp counselor having consensual sex with a 16 y.o. as a sexual predator, for example...

Addi tonally:

5. Any person 19 or older, have lewd or lascivious contact with a minor 14 or younger will be guilty and so labeled
6. Any person who forces non-consensual sexual acts on any other person, regardless of age


We're not lawmakers so the language would have to be prettied up...but the gist would be more about persons who are in positions of power over persons who are vulnerable because of their age. I agree that pedophilliacs are those who are attracted to prepubescent children. However, I think there is a need for laws to protect post-pubescent children from those in a position to exert power over them. A majority of sex crimes, not involving small children, are opportunistic and are about power...not sexual urges.

[PurityOfEssence]

32. That's why you hire a lawyer

A flak is there to quibble, deflect, deny and dispute.

Of course, there are degrees of pedophiles, and someone who goes after six year-olds is much worse than someone who goes after 16 year-olds, but the shoe fits.