Yesterday I posted about my student that was killed in Iraq ...

[Freedomofspeech]

on Monday. Shelby had only been in Iraq for one month, but I just found out today, that the other two Marines that were killed with him were scheduled to come home in a week. I am heartbroken and angry for these men and their families. Shelby, my student, was getting married as soon as he came home.
I can't take this anymore.

[Monkeyman]

1. RIP Bothers

It hurts like hell when you know someone killed. And there is no words to make it better. I send you a hug from a vet

[Dinger]

2. Me Neither

Sad doesn't even begin to explain how I feel.

[femmocrat]

3. So sorry to hear about your student.....

what a terrible waste of a young life with so much potential.

[liberalhistorian]

5. Amen, how unbelievably heartbreaking.

Tears and prayers for the honorable young men and their families and friends, and may they be honored and forever remembered as the unique individuals they were and not just as casualty numbers.

I especially feel for his fiance. That will stay with her in some way for the rest of her life, even when she marries in the future. A couple of friends of my mother lost their boyfriends/fiances in Vietnam, and my mom says it really changed them forever. My mom also lost high school classmates in Vietnam, I remember her finding their names when we visited The Wall in Washington. She and my stepdad began their teaching careers in the 60's, and they lost students in Vietnam as well. That was really hard for them, since they tended to develop strong bonds with many of their students.

My uncle was a Marine in Vietnam. He says he now truly knows what it was like for those on the "other side", the families and friends and sweethearts, especially since he has friends with children in Iraq and Afghanistan. He says he really doesn't know how his family, especially my grandparents, managed to hold up during the eighteen months of his tour of duty. He wants this madness to end ASAP, as we all do, and he's very glad that his son and daughter are in their thirties and not in the military. He knows exactly what those serving in Iraq and Afghanistan are going through, and he wants it ended yesterday.

[katinmn]

4. I'm so sorry.

:(

This must be stopped.

[DemoTex]

6. Freedomofspeech: My mother (a HS teacher) called it the "Crossroads".

The Crossroads of Teaching, she called it. "It" was the deaths of her high school students in Viet Nam in, mainly, 1968 and 1969 (and later). When I went, she was devastated. Still is .. to this day.

[OhioBlue]

7. I'm so sorry

:hug:

[The Backlash Cometh]

8. If there had been any justice in this world, God would have given

Bush sons. There would have been no reason for them not to share the same fate as Shelby and his friends. And, maybe, Bush would never have gone into Iraq in the first place.

[AirmensMom]

11. Huh?

Only boys go to war? There are women in the military and they are also put in harm's way and killed in this insane war.

[The Backlash Cometh]

13. Then why didn't we demand that at least one of the Bush twins

enlist? Because the double standard still exists in the minds of most Americans. You KNOW if they had been male, they would have been pressured to go.

[AirmensMom]

14. Good question.

But did you see Dubya go to war? He's a son, not a daughter, after all. The double standard has more to do with the rich being protected while the rest of the kids get to go to war. My daughter and son-in-law are both in the Air Force and she's more likely to go to Iraq than he is. It has to do with what job they do. And, yes, there are plenty of women doing the dirty jobs and getting killed over there.

[Auntie Bush]

19. We should pass a new law that requires the closest elegible

relative of the President to enlist. When the president feels the pain and fear of a loved one being killed...then they will do EVERYTHING in their power to prevent starting a war.

I say Jenna and Barbara need to go NOW. Doesn't seem like they have anything important to do now. Are they even working or are they just playing? :shrug: Now that it's too cool to swim ? Who knows...maybe they're both working hard...unlike their Father.

[AirmensMom]

20. I like that!

:thumbsup:

If our kids are put in danger, why not his? I mean, I didn't vote for him, and neither did the kids. So we have a better excuse to steer clear of the war than Jenna and Barbara have. Does it matter if they're working hard? :shrug:

[welshTerrier2]

9. truly there are just no words ...

we all have watched this madness for much too long ...

we hear the calls to end the war in 6 months and in 12 months and in 24 months ... what are these people thinking? we need to get out NOW ... these stories happen everyday and there are real people and real families whose pain most of us can only know as statistics ... we have to get out TODAY!

i am truly sorry for your loss ... those who have died and those who will die, regardless of their intent, will have died for nothing ... it is NOT disrespecting them to believe this ...

[calimary]

10. That just stinks. I'm so sorry. So sorry. When it hits home, it hurts

the worst.

My deepest sympathy - for your student and his friends. They were coming home IN A WEEK?!?!?

Such a waste.

Prayers for you - and for them.

[AirmensMom]

12. I'm so sorry, Freedomofspeech.

Such a waste. :cry:

[democrank]

15. I`m so very sorry.

If only we could stop this madness.

[michreject]

16. I asked yesterday, when did this happen?

I guess you didn't see it. I can't find any reference to this death in either the DoD or PGR site. I would appreciate any and all help you could offer. Thanks.

[michreject]

17. Eureka. I found it

It was posted today on the DoD site.

Pfc. Shelby J. Feniello, 25, of Connellsville, Pa., died Oct. 9 while conducting combat operations against enemy forces in Al Anbar province, Iraq. He was assigned to 1st Battalion, 6th Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Division, II Marine Expeditionary Force, Camp Lejeune, N.C.

[undergroundpanther]

18. Send all rich politicians and Ceo's over 40 to war

By time they are millionaires and 50 they've used up their potential to be anything different or better. The longer they live they begin to talk about 'legacy'and become even worse greedy old has beens trying to control the future as they cling to life way longer than anyone should, these greedy fucks would kill off a younger person not of their class if they were as infirm if it interfered with profits..some of these old nasty farts become perverts trying to be young vicariously in a sick way.. like foley with the pages scandal. Send the old rich political men to war, they have the least to lose by dying,for their own schemes their souls are already dead ,and they have no future anyways.America has it all back-wards.

[TacticalPeek]

21. Bummer, sorry.

A Poem That I Wrote In A High Fever

You who are lengthening your lives
with the best doctors and the best medicines
remember those who are shortening their lives
with the wars
that you in your long lives are not
preventing.

You who are again screwing
the younger generations
and winking at each other
the winking of your eyelids
is like the chill of the swinging shutters
in an empty house.


-- Yehuda Amichai

[Jack Rabbit]

22. May you be filled with courage and hope

This misguided war will soon end and those who planned it shall be punished for their crimes.

[Sapere aude]

23. My neighbor's son died with two weeks to go on his second tour

in Iraq. He died at Walter Reed from being blown up by an IED. I don't know if his death is counted in the numbers but a lot of wounded have died in the States after being brought back. Many more are maimed for life. Some day we will have moved on and we will all rally around the next President that calls on parents to send their kids to die for who knows what.

I lost friends in Vietnam and you'd think that we would learn from it but we never do.