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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 05:24 PM
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I have heard too many GOP guys and conservatve folks on AAR
this week. It seems like everytime I turn on my XM there is Richard Vigueri (did I spell that right) giving advice, Chuck Todd warning Democrats, a lady on Franken's show who was head of a conservative think tank. She was on for almost an hour.

There have been many others, giving the right wing point of view. Too many. Franken talked of dog poop for about an hour before having the conservative lady on.

Even Thom Hartmann bothered me with some of his guests.

I wonder if this is some new deal with AAR or if I am just extra sensitive right now with the election coming up, the AAR declaring bankruptcy and bringing new CEOs on board.

Now State of Belief, after interviewing Todd who is very cautious...is having two more to present both points of view.

I am sorry but right wing radio doesn't do that. And yeh, I know Chuck Todd is not right wing...but he bothered me today. I know the point of view of the right wing, drown our government in the bathtub. I don't want to hear that on AAR.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 05:26 PM
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1. Thom Hartman has conservatives on to debunk them. He
especially likes having libertarians on.

The meme on AAR seems to be "at least we'll let you talk on our shows." As opposed to the you-know-whos.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 05:27 PM
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2. AAR seems to be pandering to the right
and it's pretty much turned me off as a listener. I cannot WAIT for Mike Malloy to hit the airwaves again at the end of the month.

We get enough of the RW spew spoonfed to us on MSM. I don't know why AAR is doing this but I don't like it.
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Montauk6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 05:28 PM
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3. Hartmann I got no problem with
The wingnuts and Randroids he often features tend to look REEEEEEEEALLLY ridiculous by the segment's end anyway.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 05:31 PM
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4. Well, all you folks who piss and moan abut the "Fairness Doctrine"
That's what that law would mandate: that AA give the right wing their chance to express their views on AA. So if the Fairness Doctrine were law, this is what AA would have to do. AA is just running their programming the way all of you Fairness Doctrine supporters say it should be run. Be careful what you wish for.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 05:32 PM
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5. With the Fairness Doctrine...the RW radio would have our side on.
.
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Greatwildbeast Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 05:45 PM
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9. I've noticed this too.
Edited on Sun Oct-22-06 05:49 PM by Greatwildbeast
I really kinda doubt that Air America is competing for rightwinglooney listeners. While it's always good to keep an eye on AAR but fear not for the time being.

In addition to the good points related to the Fairness Doctrine (above)keep in mind these thoughts too:

Air America has various elements of it's listening audience. Some hard "left" types prefer the sharp edge of Make Papantonio and Randi Rhodes. On the other end is Jerry Springer who is more appealing to the first time listener not accustomed to more radical thinkers.

Or on one hand the hard edged voices say things like: "The Bush Crime family has orchestrated a chorus of lies in their attack on a defenseless nation".

And the more mild voices say things like: "Would you like a foreign invader to control and occupy your country?".

Both statements are true but each appeals to a different listener.

And AAR competes directly AGAINST those rightwing whackos of the AM dial. That so it is wise of them to put a few Conservative wingnuts on the program. The first time listener, used to hearing Michael Savage and other idiots is thus sucked in and will (hopefully) become more teachable.

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 05:53 PM
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11. I did not mention that at all.
I gave a point of view.

If that is what is going to happen, BOTH sides must be required.

I get tired of people talking down to "liberals" here.

AAR is becoming conservative. Why do you think they got rid of Malloy?

They have one of Murdoch's guys on board now, among others.

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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 06:10 PM
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12. If you think AAR is becoming conservative, just turn it off.
Personally, I think that's a load, but that's my point of view.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 11:12 PM
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15. Trending to the right from left....is that better?
I have Mike Malloy's article by Creative Loafing, and he is concerned.

I love AAR. we paid for Sirius to the tune of almost 300 plus monthy...then a little less to get XM boombox plus monthly...so we love it.

When I love something I watch for changes. We all should.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 05:35 PM
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6. Left radio assumes that their audience is intelligent, and can handle
hearing the other side.

Right radio has to reassure idiots, that's why they do nothing but bashing, denigrating, and mocking--it's their way of keeping their stupid, angry-at-life base motivated. Nothing better than joining in on a bit of cruelty to make a small person feel big for a brief moment--not quite crack cocaine, but addictive to a certain needy type, to feel as if one is part of a vicious pack.

We win on the basis of our superior arguments. We don't have to censor their ideas, like they do ours. And we don't have to talk down to our base, or feed them stupid, rabid nonsense. The GOP are so fucked up, all we have to do is report the facts, and anyone with half a brain can figure it out.

It's good to hear the idiots when they're on our end of the field. They can't get away with lying or obfuscating when they're in our yard.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 05:39 PM
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7. Well, right now Vigueri is on State of Belief.
Talking about how to get conservatives back in power by losing.

Remember his publishing? Swiftboaters, anything to attack Democrats, true or not.

So I wanted radio on our side bad enough to pay for Sirius then XM.

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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 09:54 AM
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16. Mister "Direct Mail" himself! What a great guest!!!
Like that guy or not, he's not a RushBo, he's not a Laura Ingrahm, he is one of the revered strategic minds in the GOP, and he is HUGELY (or should I say hughlee :rofl: ) responsible for the success of the GOP since Reagan.

He's also a thief--he was involved in a children's charity where he took something like seventy percent of the take in "salary" for himself.

He's also a PRIME mover in FRACTURING the GOP nowadays. He's bullshit at them. See here: http://www.conservativesbetrayed.com/

You know the old saying, the enemy of my enemy is my friend? That's why he's on AAR. So Liberals can listen and LEARN from the evil old reprobate.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 05:44 PM
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8. BTW, Howard Dean is on Al's show on Thursday. Who was the conservative
think tank lady you're talking about?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 05:49 PM
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10. Some woman.
I knew of her, but can't remember her name.

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maseman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 11:00 PM
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13. I heard her also
She was on for one segment...not an hour. About 16 minutes. Al loves at times to put on right-wingers. He methodically breaks down their arguments and always makes me want even more.

No offense, AAR becoming conservative? Give me a fucking break. We finally get a progressive voince on the radio and now we call it too conservative? I'd love someone to say to Sam Seder, Al Franken or Randi Rhodes that they are conservatives.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 11:06 PM
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14. Trending.
I should have said trending. AAR is going through a lot of changes. I have noticed more of the conservatives being brought on.

People here keep thinking of me as some very liberal on the left nutty person... I am not.

The week on AAR has had too many right wing folks. I can't think of the name of Richard Vigueri's publishing company, but I bet the Kerry people know. His company published stuff to blast Kerry. I don't care to hear him on AAR.

I am concerned, I said so. I love Sam, I love Randi, I "like" Al...like Rachel.

I am not stupid. I had an opinion I gave it.

They have brought on board one of the News Corp guys, and that means what...I don't know. Why would they do that?

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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 09:59 AM
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17. Thank you... any good campaign continually assesses the enemy's
strengths and weaknesses. And we can do it without being denigrating, mocking or rude. Simple facts and exchanges of ideas are enough.

Some folks are NEVER satisfied, but these are often the ones who just like a good fight no matter what the topic. If AAR became a liberal version of the rude, childish Rush-style radio, it would fucking SUCK. Why? Because most liberals are too smart to swallow that crap--that's WHY they're liberals.
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