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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 04:22 PM
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Why are these people so stupid as to believe that bush is the only one who can protect them which...
Edited on Wed Oct-25-06 04:24 PM by butterfly77
I don't believe he is. Why are borders open, crime is up, people are stealing info on data bases, including this morning's story about the info stolen from the nuclear plant. So is bush suppose to be their never ending president.

Isn't this the same army,navy,air force, marines and national guards that will fight for any other president? I believe that another president Preferably dem would have used our resources better than this nut. How can you fight a so called war on terror while leaving a border unprotected. He doesn't know who is in this country! Or is the hate so strong for others that they would rather see us all die and not work together.
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rubberducky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 04:23 PM
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1. Media!!
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 04:24 PM
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2. Their money will protect them ,,,
or so they think. Haven't they being laying off the media also.
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 04:25 PM
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3. He came out of his mothers womb lying ,stealing, and scaring.
Edited on Wed Oct-25-06 04:39 PM by orpupilofnature57
Hell of a Used Car salesman.
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Agit8dChop Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 04:29 PM
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4. to much work has been done, to just accept defeat now.
Edited on Wed Oct-25-06 04:57 PM by Agit8dChop
The size of the lie is a definite factor in causing it to be believed, for the vast masses of a nation are in the depths of their hearts more easily deceived than they are consciously and intentionally bad. The primitive simplicity of their minds renders them a more easy prey to a big lie than a small one, for they themselves often tell little lies, but would be ashamed to tell big lies.

-- Adolf Hitler's "Mein Kampf" (1925)

Looks like Bush has been busy learning the lessons of the past.
Please, take a minute, and come with me on an adventure……..

Well start with;
But its goal is not making money; its goal is remaking the world -- and imposing its radical beliefs on people everywhere.

GW Bush – on Alqaeda post 911

Well I think the US Government can do one better, how about we describe the government of today

OUR goal IS to make money, to remake the world, and impose our democratic ( fraudulent elections ) on people everywhere.

So lets see just how the US Administration, hijacked and manipulated your governing system to

Make money
Remake the world
Impose the democratic way of life (meaning contracts and more money)

Near East Affairs bureau

The Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs (NEA), headed by Assistant Secretary C. David Welch, deals with U.S. foreign policy and U.S. diplomatic relations with Algeria, Bahrain, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Morocco, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Tunisia, United Arab Emirates, and Yemen. Regional policy issues that NEA handles include Iraq, Middle East peace, terrorism and weapons of mass destruction, and political and economic reform

http://www.villagevoice.com/blogs/bushbeat/archive/001865.php
Interesting little company there, but after reading the above link

let me get this straight.
Dick Cheney’s Daughter is a top official in the above government branch.
Paul Wolfowitz Saudi Girlfriend is also now a TOP OFFICIAL for the government branch.
What’s the HISTORY behind this offices dealings?

"The Office of Special Plans (OSP), which worked alongside the Near East and South Asia (NESA) bureau in Feith's domain, was originally created by Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and Deputy Secretary Paul Wolfowitz to review raw information collected by the official U.S. intelligence agencies for connections between Iraqi President Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda."

9/11 panel sees no link between Iraq, al-Qaida –
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5223932/

“Cheney said evidence of a link was "overwhelming."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A47812-2004Jun16.html

Well, it helps when your DAUGHTER is involved in this company, and your partner in crimes girlfriend too.

So, what exactly was the break down here, between Father and Daughter, and loving partners for there to be so many ERRORS?
This is obviously where the manipulation of the evidence for the IRAQI invasion occurred.

Ensuring people sympathetic and connected to the people whom were going to make MONEY off this adventure were in high places to push the ‘proof ‘we had, was priority.
Who else do you trust such important aspects of your lies, than your own daughter or spouse.
People even KNEW about this heinous act

"An ad hoc office under U.S. Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Douglas Feith appears to have acted as the key base for an informal network of mostly neo-conservative political appointees that circumvented normal inter-agency channels to lead the push for war against Iraq."

Suspicious?
Not if you’re a bush supporter…


http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0807-02.htm
Michael Rubin - neo-conservative American Enterprise Institute
David Schenker - Institute for Near East Policy
Michael Makovsky - younger brother of David Makovsky (senior WINEP) + former executive editor of pro-Likud 'Jerusalem Post'

***Along with Feith, all of the political appointees have in common a close identification with the views of the right-wing Likud Party in Israel.***

(Feith, whose law partner is a spokesman for the settlement movement in Israel)

"Iran recently said it was prepared to turn over five senior al-Qaeda figures, including the son of Osama bin Laden, who are currently in its custody if Washington permanently shuts down an Iraqi-based Iranian rebel group that is listed as a terrorist organization by the State Department.

"Pentagon officials, particularly Feith's office, have reportedly opposed the deal, which had been favored by the State Department, because of the possibility that the group, the Mujahadeen Khalq, might be useful in putting pressure on Tehran."

I’m asking myself if im reading this correctly….

All these people sympathetic to Israel, to the Pentagon and Cheney are all in positions of MANIPULATING the evidence put forward to the PEOPLE!
Yet Cheney has the audacity to come forward and state he DIDN’T put pressure on intelligence agencies.

That’s the VICE PRESIDENT.

Let’s look at the PRESIDENTS INVOLVEMENT in this countries greatest crime

http://www.oldamericancentury.org/bushco/bush_crime_family.htm

“After his defeat in the 1992 Presidential election, George H. W. and James Baker, became Carlyle advisors and investors. Especially useful were the Bush and Baker connections to the ruling elite of Saudi Arabia. Those connections helped to generate large investments in Carlyle from the Saudi elite including the bin Laden family”

Well that helps!

(Carlyle concentrates on companies funded by the government, such as defense contractors)
Wow, they must be making a TONNE of money from IRAQ.. Of course.. This isn’t a clash of interests is it, being he’s the PRESIDENTS FATHER.
“His son is in the Oval Office directing the war effort and proposing the largest increase in defense spending since Ronald Reagan”
http://www.carlylegroup.net/thebigguys.htm

Suspicious?
Not if you’re a bush supporter…


Marvin Bush
Board of directors of a company providing electronic security for the World Trade Center, Dulles International Airport and United Airlines”
So, the planes that were used, the airport they were taken from, and the building they hit.. Were all being monitored and watched over by a board, which this gentleman sat.

Suspicious?
Not if you’re a bush supporter…


Jeb Bush, the president's brother obviously in charge of floriday.
Did you know this about the Florida elections though?

“Thousands of eligible voters were disallowed the right to vote in predominantly democratic regions”
http://www.oldamericancentury.org/bushco/bush_crime_family.htm

“ChoicePoint of Atlanta, was paid $4.3 million for its work, replacing a firm that charged $5,700 per year for the same service”
Why would you pay someone 4.3million to do a job, someone could of done for $5700?
Obviously, this wasn’t a normal, run of the mill election campaign down in florida.


Suspicious?
Not if you’re a bush supporter…


So can I honestly ask you how the Iraqi war and the election aren’t events which need serious investigation?
Isn’t obvious that this country was hijacked, by existing members of our government?
They worked in the system, they grew within corporations AFTER the system and figured out how to MANIUPLATE that system.

Here’s the humdinger.
We all know fairly well now how much lies were spun to get into IRAQ.

But how about the GREATEST lie of all
http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101020603/memo.html
http://www.buzzflash.com/perspectives/911bush.html

- 9/11 report, Rice remarks in conflict; Investigators say Bush got specific data on threats
- FBI Warned D.C. It Was a Target
- Moussaoui Warnings Ignored
- America had 12 warnings of aircraft attack
- U.S. Was Aware on bin Laden Threat
- Bush briefed on hijacking threat before September 11

"On Sept. 10, NEWSWEEK has learned, a group of top Pentagon officials suddenly canceled travel plans for the next morning, apparently because of security concerns."

http://msnbc.msn.com/news/629606.asp

don’t bother with that one though, its conveniently been removed.
And there’s many, many, MANY more articles stating that the administration was FOREWARNED.
But again, simply because the bush administration claims they WERNT AWARE of the impending plot… shouldn’t seem suspicious..
I mean what motive does this man have in allowing this attack to happen..


Ahh, that’s right, all this families and friends dealings in organizations that PROFIT from war and various other industries involved in OCCUPATION CONTRACTS!

Suspicious?

Not if you’re a bush supporter…


So I invite all those who firmly believe this was an attack by terrorists, and that the government had NO clue it was coming, a government that DIDT manipulate the evidence about the attack to get into a long, costly war and a government that doesn’t allow its officials to PROFIT from war to counteract ALL these reports and suspicious dealings.
I’m dying to see you explain these away.
Because frankly, this makes me suspicious of bush.

Where there’s smoke there’s fire.
And there’s a HELL of a lot of smoke coming out of IRAQ.



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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 05:07 PM
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5. Hi Agit8dChop!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Agit8dChop Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 05:22 PM
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6. Thanks for the welcome guys!
Hey thumbs up NewYawker! :)
I love NYC, never been.. but im trying to gain my Visa , get a job there find a nice apartment and boom... move on the NYC life.
Australia, especially WA is to isolated and limited.
Plus, I enjoy debating american politics to much to be outside of the country! :)

this site looks good,
Ive been a member on abovetopsecret.com/forum for some time, but my work has blocked it so im using alternatives to voice my opinion.
love what i see, n all seem level headed enough1 :)

Again thanks for the welcoming guys.
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