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Caoimhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 06:07 PM
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Kerry flap not seen hurting Democrats at polls - analysts
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Sen. John Kerry's "botched joke" about the Iraq war riled fellow Democrats and temporarily energized Republicans, but it is unlikely to have much, if any, impact in Tuesday's congressional elections.

http://news.yahoo.com/fc/us/midterm_elections_2006

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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 06:09 PM
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1. Almost like a miniature Battle of the Bulge
One last, desperate gasp from a doomed, demoralized, and defeated group of mouth-breathers.
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Caoimhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 06:11 PM
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2. You mean like this guy?


for some reason the term "mouth-breathers" always gives me the giggles.
Same with "knuckle-draggers".
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1 Hot Democrat Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 06:20 PM
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3. THE QUESTION TO ASK !!!!!!
IS it worse to screw up verbal political jab OR is is worse to realize that it was exactly that, and THEN try to convince the tropps of what you know not to be true for politcal purposes. Isn't that using the troops for political purposes?????? Ah, I forgot....that's pretty much routine for these MF's.
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Fabio Donating Member (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 06:24 PM
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4. yup
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 06:32 PM
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6. Indeed, And Welcome!
n/t
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 07:26 PM
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15. Hello.
Welcome to DU! :hi:
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 06:30 PM
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5. But it WILL tank the Republicans
the world saw every republican from the President on down
distort and lie and slander for the past few days.
If anyone didn't know what Republicans truly are.. they do now.
And they WILL vote them out of Washington.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 12:24 AM
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19. nt
Edited on Fri Nov-03-06 12:24 AM by karynnj
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 06:33 PM
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 06:58 PM
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8. "Given the weight of Democratic message"
Edited on Thu Nov-02-06 07:00 PM by ClassWarrior
"'But I don't see it as a significant factor given the weight of Democratic message and overall public sentiment,' (Rothenberg) added."

I guess we really DO have a message!!

NGU.


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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 07:24 PM
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13. Heheh...and yet just last week they were still saying Dems had no message
and no plans for Iraq.

Gee - I guess now the half dozen Iraq withdrawal plans Dem have submitted over the past year will magically appear, too.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 07:00 PM
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9. Oh please....
My email-box was full of Kerryisms and the IRAK troops photo.

Just shut up John Kerry, just shut up PLEASE!!!!!
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 07:20 PM
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12. Anyway
Bush tells funnier jokes about the Iraq war than Kerry. Kerry takes it too seriously! You'd think people were dying or something!:sarcasm:

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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 07:26 PM
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14. So post the Bush funnies !?
ha..ha...ha ?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 09:49 AM
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20. EXACTLY!!! Kerry should shut up for a DROPPED PRONOUN when people
are dying because of words that came from BUSH'S MOUTH?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 07:30 PM
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16. Why would you even SUBMIT that somehow Kerry is at fault?
Edited on Thu Nov-02-06 07:38 PM by blm
You want to take a man's ONE DROPPED WORD while he's been on the road for a month making 2-3-4 campaign appearances a day and is obviously tired, and BLAME HIM, when it could have been ANY Democrat exhausted from heavy travel and campaigning that it happened to?

ONE DROPPED WORD? And that one dropped word gives YOU or Bush or Tony Snow the right to tell Kerry to shut up? Kerry is probably the only man in DC who would step in front of a bullet for YOU or anyone you love and care about. THAT is the essence of who John Kerry is and anyone familiar with his entire life would know that about him.

I hope like hell you didn't DARE post on an Olbermann thread and even PRETEND That you supported his commentary last night.

Fair weather supporter or opportunists use that crap created by Bush's lie machine to blame Kerry.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 10:10 PM
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17. Kerry was a victim in all of this. He has been the one voice to
consistently speak out against this war and this Presidents mishandling of it. He and Feingold insisted that our party needed to take a stand on Iraq and came up with a sound plan to bring our troops home. He forced our party to take this stand because he new the issue was Iraq in this election. The party and all of us Dem's own a boat load of gratitude for all he has done to get Democrats elected. 12 million in donations, tireless hours on the road in support of candidates and keeping in touch with his supporters.
So now after all he has done and how far he has taken our party and you just want him to shut up? I call that ungrateful.

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cobaindrain Donating Member (731 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 07:03 PM
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10. RIP John Kerry flap
Born October 31 2006

Died November 2nd 2006
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 07:19 PM
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11. Ought to be the last
We should make the leaders of the Dem party into honorary members of DU, thereby affording them the same rights and respects other members hold and cherish.

IOW, the leaders shall not be subject to name calling, flaming or other actions that committed against any other member would require a 'name removed' title be overwritten on the post.

Such a rule would have limited the trash we saw as poster after poster flamed Kerry. No poster on DU ever deserves such flaming... isn't it time we afforded the same respect to people like Kerry, Dean, Clark, Carter, the Clintons?

Not only do they not deserve it, we deserve to not have to see it spread across our one sanctuary from the Publicans....
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Slyder Donating Member (191 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 10:30 PM
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18. Today such gaffs don't hurt as badly as they used to
With instant news and the web, explanations for such gaffs can be quickly disseminated leaving egg on the face of detractors. Very few people would think Kerry said such a thing on purpose. OK, may some of the slower repukes. But it is good Kerry has dropped out of sight.

A similar gaff sank the presidential hopes of Republican James G. Blaine in 1884, I believe. If I recall the story, it was fairly late in the campaign and Blaine arrived by train in a large city tired from his campaigning. Reporters met him at his hotel and he went through the campaign mantra. But in his fatigue he got caught up in alliteration, intending to wave again the bloody shirt of the Civil War, and said that Democrats were the party of "rum, rebellion, and Romanism". He lost the Catholic vote and the election to Democrat, Grover Cleveland. Not enough time before the election to explain, even if this would be harder to explain away than Kerry's gaff. And the "rum" didn't help him either. John St. John of Kansas was the Prohibitionist Party candidate that year and won enough votes in New York to carry the state for Cleveland! (Hope I have that right, I did it from memory!)

Cleveland incidentally was the only Democrat to win the presidency between 1856 and 1912. Us Democrats have been in the wilderness before.
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