Correct Spin: In effort to bolster Iraq WMD claims Bush admin stupidly gave nuke info to IRAN

[troublemaker]

Get this story spun right. The RW will try to muddle this but don't be fooled. This is a very BAD story for Bush. (At least based on what we know so far)

This is not about Iran having a nuke program or about Iraqi WMD. The docs are from long ago when Iraq had a nuke program. (presumably pre first Gulf war). There is no controversy that Iraq had a nuke program way back when. (Though some RW morans will doubtless misread this story as saying something different) This is about Bush admin mishandling of sensitive nuke information.

The Bush admin was so spazzed out to make bogus claims that they had found anything worthwhile in Iraq they posted sensitive nuke data on the frigging internet which happened to include some nuke data that was not publicly available and that the IAEA fears helped out Iran's nuke program. (This would have been the same post invasion panic phase when Rummy ordered full-on torture in Iraq to find some WMD somewhere, leading to Abu Ghraib)

NYT REPORTING FRIDAY, SOURCES SAY: U.S. POSTING OF IRAQ NUKE DOCS ON WEB COULD HAVE HELPED IRAN...

Federal government set up Web site -- Operation Iraqi Freedom Document Portal -- to make public a vast archive of Iraqi documents captured during the war; detailed accounts of Iraq's secret nuclear research; a 'basic guide to building an atom bomb'... Officials of the International Atomic Energy Agency fear the information could help Iran develop nuclear arms... contain charts, diagrams, equations and lengthy narratives about bomb building that the nuclear experts say go beyond what is available elsewhere on the Internet and in other public forums... Developing...

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/03/world/middleeast/03documents.html



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Background from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Iraqi_Freedom_documents

[troublemaker]

1. docs link on wikipedia is down -- Govt probably pulled the site a while back

"Operation Iraqi Freedom Documents refers to some 55,000 boxes of documents, audiotapes and videotapes that may or may not have been produced by the government of Saddam Hussein. The documents date from the 1980s through the post-Saddam period. The U.S. government seized the records after the 2003 invasion of Iraq and is releasing them on the Internet, requesting Arabic translators around the world to help in the translation. The documents can be found at the Foreign Military Studies Office Joint Reserve Intelligence Center website."

[troublemaker]

2. Note: The web posting was to encourage arab translators world wide to take a crack at it

Please understand that... we didn't have enough Arabic translators so we posted pottentialy sensitive documents we couldn't read on the internet in hopes that Arabic speakers worldwide might translate them for us.

Again, we didn't know what they said, so we posted them on the internet in hopes someone would tell us...

Question, hw many Arabic speakers does Al Queada have? Or Syria, for that matter.

Amazing! It's beyond anything.

[mom cat]

20. Dumber than dirt. At least dirt can grow plante. All this bunch of losers

can grow is fear and destruction.

[Infinite Hope]

3. OMG...

One of the few times our gov't actually decides to be transparent and they go and build a freakin' nuclear arsenal for Iran with it.

[ruggerson]

4. Thank you

The rightwing spin machine knows this is a dagger in the heart of BushCo.

They are already trying to spin this as vindication that Saddam had an ongoing nuke weapons program right before 2003, which of course the story does not say at all.

Their spin must be countered immediately, as we have all seen, they can take lies and make the media repeat them.

[Arkansas Granny]

12. And their spin is working on the RW nutters.

I just checked the freeper response to this and all they can see is Saddam had a nuclear program. What's interesting to me, though, is that they do not blame Bush and the GOP for providing the info over the internets, but they blame the NYT for "leaking" the insturctions to the terrorists.

[ruggerson]

5. EVERYONE NEEDS TO READ THIS OP

Please keep it kicked!

[bananas]

9. One more vote needed for the greatest page!

[ruggerson]

6. kick

[Hosnon]

7. Is this the Drudge NYT story? nt

[Hosnon]

8. GOOD GOD !!!! Bush may be responsible for N.Korea's nuke!!!!!!!!!!! nt

[KKKarl is an idiot]

11. Lets blame this on Bush & the congressional republicans

This from the article:

"Last March, the federal government set up a Web site to make public a vast archive of Iraqi documents captured during the war. The Bush administration did so under pressure from Congressional Republicans who had said they hoped to “leverage the Internet” to find new evidence of the prewar dangers posed by Saddam Hussein."

The congressional republicans wanted this made public as soon as possible so they pushed Bush to get it out there. The administration botched it up & put out the full details. So if anyone reading this article out there was going to vote for a congressional republican please consider the way they may have contributed to the NK nuclear bombs, the possible Iranian program & Al Queida's need to attain a nuclear weapon. Lets get these dangerous politicians out of DC.

[ruggerson]

10. kick n/t

[holboz]

13. Kick for another royal f*ck up by Furious George!

Furious Geroge and The Internets

[indepat]

14. I feel so much safer with this man of God at the helm

[sqarebis]

15. Ah, good ol' Bush & his band of idiots

Please vote the Congress out so we can hold these mindless thugs accountable!

[yellerpup]

16. Kick!

:kick: :kick: :kick:

[bluedog]

17. Is There Anything

Is There Anything


...that our idiot of a president wont fvck up?


could we not get him an other job somewhere ...................


Like dog catcher in some remote jungle??????

[klook]

18. They provided a 'basic guide to building an atom bomb' to ANYBODY IN THE WORLD!!

Not just to Iran. These idiots posted this on the MFing Internet! So any rogue state or organization wanting to build nuclear weapons may have relied on this information to create weapons of mass destruction. Are they trying to destroy the whole damned world?

[Senator]

19. Not "Bolster" -- It's "Cover Up" for "Terrorizing the Nation into War Crimes"

As Olbermann said in his last Special Comment. They continue to terrorize the nation.

Their "bomb threat" of "mushroom clouds over our cities ... in 45 minutes" was The Worst Act of Terrorism in History.

Far worse than 9-11. Yes worse.

They terrorized ALL Americans. They did it willfully, with malice aforethought. In betrayal of a trust they only obtained by the theft of 2 national elections.

They did it to achieve their own craven purposes of preserving power and reaping blood profits.

We ALL need to keep saying the word "Terrorized." Because that's exactly what it was.

That will cut through the Euphemedia fog.

--

[Guaranteed]

21. Try this one, too:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2563144&mesg_id=2563144

[Pragmatic Pilgrim]

22. Keep it spinning our way!

Crank out them-thar Letters to Editors, call them-thar talk shows, take the proper spin out to the world! Average Voter won't connect the dots--we gotta connect 'em for them!